Portuguese Ronaldo

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Originally posted by Chumpy:
We were not surprised when penalties were 'saved'

The all looked like decent saves to me - why the quotes?

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Jamie C.'s first shot was disallowed.

Carragher himself has said that, because he doesn't take penalties often (this was the 3rd in his career) he didn't realise that he was supposed to wait for the referee to blow his whistle.

I always wonder why most people refer to "missed" penalties rather than "saved" penalties. Missed suggests you skyed it or put it wide etc. not that the keeper did whatever it took to keep it out.

Even if it was a poorly struck penalty it would have been going into the net barring the keepers intervention.

Is it true Frank Warren is arranging the first training session at Man Utd?

Surely they'll off load Ronaldo - he was only a makeweight until they found a decent player to replace Beckham anyway. Hence their failure to win anything significant with Ronaldo in the team.

Not that I care. It's back to the Championship for me. If Sven had taken and played Darren Bent then we'd have a semi-final against France to look forward to.

I hope France win the thing.

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Originally posted by Chumpy:
IMO Portuguese MUt Ronaldo is a cheating bast, and I now regret MUt fans slagging him off/feeling he was hard done by when chap in earlier match took drop-kick near his bollocks.

IMO the sooner Fergie sells him out of Premier League the better.

We were not surprised when penalties were 'saved'/Jamie C.'s first shot was disallowed.

Two decent sides remain - Germs and Francs. Good sides who should have done better have gone (Eng-Arg-Bra-Ghan-Iv. Coast-Oz).

FYFFA-Sup Bleater are twats.

Aha, Ronaldo is bast ha...and you would probably call Rooney a gentleman after this...
England have played really bad and they should be lucky to reach where they are finished.
I hope that the team which will offer better game will win in the final.

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Originally posted by ROTF:

I hope France win the thing.

Italy or Germany would be much better from where I'm not watching the thing!

Really don't care who win....

Just seems like a bit of sore losing..

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Ronaldo

Finally figured out why everyone was so upset with Ronaldo...

You can't always believe what you read...but obviously I can't comment...

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Originally posted by prc:
Really don't care who win....

Just seems like a bit of sore losing..

my remarks concerning the ultimate winners of the tournament are only related to having peaceful evenings. Where I live there's a portuguese community of some size and they made quite a bit of noise after saturday's match.

I've lived in France since 1990, and the country went stupid when they won in '98 it was quite amazing to behold. I fear it would be worse this time around.

Well, according to our quirky stats at http://www.informationbuilders.co.uk/ontheball, Italy lead the way bigtime in terms of dives (28), they're joint second for bullying the referee and 3rd in the fake injury stakes so I don't want them to win. Other than that, the others look to be coming strong now, so any will do I guess.

It would have been nice to see England do better, but the team only really gelled in bursts (when they looked invincible). I find it quite interesting that they seemed to play better after Rooney got sent off. there was a similar situation some time back when they played 10 against 11 for most of a game and came out looking better than with eleven.

They are friends again.....

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Originally posted by Frank Abela:
I find it quite interesting that they seemed to play better after Rooney got sent off.

I think England were already playing better because Lennon had come on to replace a largely ineffective Beckham.

Portugal's Ronaldo wants to leave Manchester United and sign for Real Madrid. he has talking to Juan Miguel Villar Mir. "I have told my agent I am prepared to leave. I want to do it. I want to play for Real Madrid and dream of doing so," Ronaldo said in the Spanish sports daily Marca.

I think United will be overjoyed that they can off load him - as for Real Madrid, it looks like Barca all the way yet again.

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson feels "betrayed" by Ronaldo's desire to leave Old Trafford. According to The Sun newspaper, the United boss says he felt betrayed by the midfielder's wish to leave for Real Madrid

The candidate for the Real madrid presidency who had Angelina signed up lost, so he won't be going there, and Rooney bears him no ill will and looks forward to playing with him next season at Stretford Rangers according to 5 News.

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Originally posted by Steve G:

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Originally posted by Frank Abela:
I find it quite interesting that they seemed to play better after Rooney got sent off.

I think England were already playing better because Lennon had come on to replace a largely ineffective Beckham.

I think you hit the nail on the head there, Steve. Beckham had a poor tournament and Lennon should have played from the start as he gave us the spark we needed. Beckham's set pieces were consistently below par, apart from the two free kicks that produced the goals.
He was, I felt, very static as indeed were the whole team.

We need to stop looking for scapegoats and accept that we were simply not good enough the whole way through.

We should wish Portugal good luck and move on. Ronaldo did only what perhaps any opponent might have done in the circumstances. Whether we find it irksome or not it is now a part of the game. The real issue here is Rooney's temperament and reputation. In the same way that 'professionals' in the old days would deliberately target an opponents injury to take him out of the game, so opposition players will use Rooney's weaknesses to do the same. He just needs to get wise.

Mark

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chillkram:
We need to stop looking for scapegoats and accept that we were simply not good enough the whole way through.

Ronaldo did only what perhaps any opponent might have done in the circumstances. Whether we find it irksome or not it is now a part of the game. The real issue here is Rooney's temperament and reputation. In the same way that 'professionals' in the old days would deliberately target an opponents injury to take him out of the game, so opposition players will use Rooney's weaknesses to do the same. He just needs to get wise.
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Spot on. Hallelujah.

In a cafe today with nothing to read but that dreadful rag The Sun I noticed an article which said Ronaldo ran up to the ref holding an imaginary red card. How does one hold up an imaginary red card as opposed to an imaginary yellow card. Its not just think people who read it - thick people write it.

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Originally posted by ROTF:
According to The Sun newspaper

... and the truth is told.

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Originally posted by erik scothron:
In a cafe today with nothing to read but that dreadful rag The Sun I noticed an article which said Ronaldo ran up to the ref holding an imaginary red card. How does one hold up an imaginary red card as opposed to an imaginary yellow card. Its not just think people who read it - thick people write it.

Especially as Ronaldo didn't make any card waving gestures during that incident.

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Originally posted by Steve G:

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Originally posted by erik scothron:
In a cafe today with nothing to read but that dreadful rag The Sun I noticed an article which said Ronaldo ran up to the ref holding an imaginary red card. How does one hold up an imaginary red card as opposed to an imaginary yellow card. Its not just think people who read it - thick people write it.

Especially as Ronaldo didn't make any card waving gestures during that incident.

Yeah, but he was thinking about it and surely that's enough.

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Originally posted by ROTF:

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Originally posted by Steve G:

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Originally posted by erik scothron:
In a cafe today with nothing to read but that dreadful rag The Sun I noticed an article which said Ronaldo ran up to the ref holding an imaginary red card. How does one hold up an imaginary red card as opposed to an imaginary yellow card. Its not just think people who read it - thick people write it.

Especially as Ronaldo didn't make any card waving gestures during that incident.

Yeah, but he was thinking about it and surely that's enough.

Cleary it's enough for the gutter press anyway...

Come off it, chaps, the fuckwit potato head was sent off for stamping on the other fellow's bollox. Ronaldo was on the other side of the pitch at the time.

The ref has said that the fuckwit potato head was sent off for violent conduct, so please stop looking for a diversionary scapegoat in the form of Ronaldo.

Fuckwit potato head should not be chosen to play for his national team again unless and until he has shown that he is in control of his notoriously short temper. Otherwise, other teams will just keep winding him up to get him sent off - as the Portugeezers did so successfully last Saturday. And the lesson won't have gone unmissed in the Premiership either. Bring on the sledgers!

Graham

There should have been a free kick for Rooney being rugby tackled before the incident.

I do not believe for one minute that Rooney is whiter than white, but Ronaldo did head-butt him before the game.

If Rooney had stamped into Carvalho's private parts, then they must be made of stone, because he got up and carried on playing, rather than being taken to casualty.

What really gets my goat about the World Cup is the diving, conning the ref re injury, putting undue pressure on ref to card someone, and the inconsistency of the refereeing.

How can Figo stay on the pitch for deliberately head butting an opponent?

They should all get up and behave like men.

As for the Roon, I reckon he got sent off for intent, but if he was a "european player "he would have fallen over looking for a free kick, rather than trying to shield the ball from two players.

However , all this does not divert attention for tha fact that England were useless; I am personally glad that Sven has gone.

Sorry about that, rant over

Trev

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Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard-Portly:
Graham55 sounds like he watched the match on the radio.

I agree. A friend of mine recorded the incident. We watched the incident several times over, from all the available camera angles and neither of us could see a stamp anywhere. He did tread. But not stamp. He appeard to tread high on the other chaps thigh and not his privates and given his position and balance the place where he put his foot down was perfectly natural. Personally I think Rooney just cant see through his own red mist sometimes and temporarily does not know what he is doing other than try (at all costs)to get the ball in the net but I saw no stamp and no intent. Not a sending off offense at all imo.

Erik
In that case there has been a lot of photoshop manipulation going on before photos were published by the press!
Of course the moron stamped on his balls and got sent off quite correctly.