tyres

Posted by: andrew tooley on 21 June 2005

I am after some new tyres for my better halves car at the moment it has pirelli p7000 205 40 17 fitted (these are the manufactures standard tyres for the car) I just need to change the fronts but the p 7000,s are no longer available is it safe to just change the fronts to another type of tyre?
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by Steve G
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Originally posted by andrew tooley:
I am after some new tyres for my better halves car at the moment it has pirelli p7000 205 40 17 fitted (these are the manufactures standard tyres for the car) I just need to change the fronts but the p 7000,s are no longer available is it safe to just change the fronts to another type of tyre?


As long as you change both fronts at the same time you're not likely to get a problem.

There used to be issues about using crossplys on one axle and radials on the other, however I don't think that's a concern with modern tyres.

You might find that the garage will want to switch the new tyres to the back as current safety practice is to set the car up to understeer.
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by GuyPerry
Also make sure they are the same rating, as the rears, v-rated or H-rated etc, they are for different max speeds. It can void your insurance!

Regards

Guy
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by BLT
It can be very dangerous to have a different type of tyre on the front and back. I remember fitting Bridgestone PP-02s to the front of my Subaru with the Bridgestone Re010 (original) at the back. Both tyres were radial with identical speed ratings etc, but the increased grip from the PP-02s (especially in the wet) made the car very tail-happy. I found it great fun, but my wife spun the car on a roundabout and pranged the front.
I remember reading that the differences between modern tyres of different makes and models can make a mismatch as dangerous as mixing crossply and radial in the "old days".
My advice would be to change the rears at the same time or at least to test the handling somewhere safe (wet and dry) with whatever combination you end up with.
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by Steve G
BLT - that's why most tyre fitters recommend fitting the new tyres on the back.

I hate understeer so I have the newer tyres fitted on the front, but for my wife's car I go with the tyre fitters advice.
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by BigH47
Michelin have a load going spare.

Howard
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by Julian H
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Michelin have a load going spare.


but you are not allowed to use them. Big Grin
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by Paul Hutchings
Put the two new tyres on the rear.

So far as what to choose, generally see what the current OEM choices on that vehicle are and you won't go wrong - the type of tyre the manufacturer OEMs the vehicle with is taken into account during a cars development, and isn't just down to who does the best deal on a few million tyres.

cheers,
Paul
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by BigH47
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but you are not allowed to use them.


You are not allowed to RACE them.

Howard
Posted on: 21 June 2005 by Tony Lockhart
I think most tyre centres recommend fitting the older tyres to the front of the car. This will avoid scary oversteer, which most of would love to be able to control but are caught out when it happens unexpectedly. Understeer is far safer.

Tony
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by andrew tooley
Thanks for all your help..I think to be on the safe side i will fit four tyres . Has any one tried pirelli p zoros? they seem to be the nearest to the p 7000,s the car was developed with ,thanks.
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I drove on three tyres once, it was a Robin though Big Grin


Fritz Von Africans often use them for necklace killings, though I don't know which burn the best ? Eek
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by Derek Wright
Andrew - Do not know where you live but if you are in driving distance of Micheldever Tyres they often set the "must match" price for Hampshire and West west Sussex

They are located east of Winchester and West of Basingstoke

Just Google for them
Posted on: 22 June 2005 by Tony Lockhart
We are on our second set of P Zero Neros. No complaints at all. They are very grippy, very good in the wet,are very civilised but use a bit more fuel than the previous Michelin Pilots. Recommended.
Try http://www.mytyres.co.uk for a very good price, including vat and del. if you can't find a competetive price locally. You'll just need to have them fitted and balanced at around £7-10 per corner.

Tony
Posted on: 24 June 2005 by Stoik
If your car is equiped with integral traction, i suggest you replace the entire set, not just 2 tires, especially if you live in an area where theres's a lot of rain, ice or snow.

Bye.
Posted on: 24 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
All five then ? Big Grin
Posted on: 24 June 2005 by Stoik
All six, BF, you need one around your beer belly too. Razz

Bye.