MOTD have new female commentator

Posted by: Chillkram on 21 April 2007

I can't quite believe the fuss that is being made over the BBC's first female football commentator (as opposed to presenter) Jacqui Oatley, who is to appear on Match of the Day tonight. My 12 year old daughter was asking me why people thought that a woman could not be a commentator and I have to say that I was embarrassed at having to explain that some men still harbour such sexist opinions and are unabashed at airing them in public. None of the argument against can possibly be rational. I mean, this is 2007 ffs!
We went through all this years ago with Angela Rippon reading the news. Real progress would be just to let it pass by without comment or thought. The day that happens we have truly achieved equality of the sexes.

Mark

Posted on: 22 April 2007 by Cheese

Erm, sorry what is 'PC' ?

And Mick Parry's line is very typical for him but this time I agree :

quote:
Also if anyone feels that they can do a better job of being a commentator then they should apply for the job instead of whinging about women.

Posted on: 22 April 2007 by Mick P

Cheese

PC = Politically correct. An essential qualification for anyone in the education industry.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 22 April 2007 by manicatel

I seem to remember mr David Coleman & mr Murray Walker both making the occasional verbal error whilst commentating, yet still having successful careers commentating. Therefore, character must come into it somewhere, & I assume this takes time to mature. (ie give her trial a reasonable length of time?).
Matt

Posted on: 22 April 2007 by Guido Fawkes

I though she was much better than Motson.

Posted on: 22 April 2007 by KeanoKing

It shouldn't be happening, i mean it's not like us men comment on the house cleaning is it!!! Horses for courses!!!

Posted on: 22 April 2007 by Trilobyte

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Cheese

You are spot on. The "education industry" is largely staffed by PC types who are mainly motivated by imposing their own useless ideals on children. The education aspect comes second.

Would it be non-PC of me to say that you are talking out of your arse!

Posted on: 22 April 2007 by Cheese

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Would it be non-PC of me to say that you are talking out of your arse!

It should be Mick's turn to answer you but in the meantime we are eagerly awaiting your own opinion on the above topic. Then we will be happy to judge whether your fart smells better than ours.

Posted on: 23 April 2007 by Rasher

I think it's entirely appropriate. She can comment in depth about the players ever changing hairstyles, cosmetics range and new lines in knitware.

Posted on: 23 April 2007 by Trilobyte

quote:
Originally posted by Cheese:
quote:
Would it be non-PC of me to say that you are talking out of your arse!

It should be Mick's turn to answer you but in the meantime we are eagerly awaiting your own opinion on the above topic. Then we will be happy to judge whether your fart smells better than ours.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe it was the non-educational establishment that straightjacketed those folk with views, educational or not, that were worth expressing.
Making generalised statements about a bunch of people that one clearly knows little about, is as non-PC as stating that women shouldn't be allowed to commentate on football unless they are barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen!

Posted on: 23 April 2007 by Mick P

Trilobyte

No I am not talking out of my ass. I know many school governers and believe me they are sick to the back of their teeth trying to bring some sense into the educational establishment.

The entire system is totally pc and the education of the children is little more than a political punch bag.

Some of the rules are plain bloody stupid and only last week the committee had to endorse the decision not to allow a swimming instructor to teach children to swim by holding onto them.

A few weeks ago when we had barely a smattering of snow, the school was closed.

Cameras are forbidden at school plays.

No reference to many historical facts.

Teachers unable to take discipinary action

Need I go on.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 23 April 2007 by Cheese

It's absolutely frightening (e.g. swimming instructor). On the other hand it must be said that when anything goes wrong somewhere in society, all fingers point at the teachers.

Some might argue that they literally asked for it, since many of them actually think they are the source of all evolution

. Still their job is not easy.

Posted on: 24 April 2007 by Trilobyte

quote:
Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Trilobyte

No I am not talking out of my ass. I know many school governers and believe me they are sick to the back of their teeth trying to bring some sense into the educational establishment.

The entire system is totally pc and the education of the children is little more than a political punch bag.

Some of the rules are plain bloody stupid and only last week the committee had to endorse the decision not to allow a swimming instructor to teach children to swim by holding onto them.

A few weeks ago when we had barely a smattering of snow, the school was closed.

Cameras are forbidden at school plays.

No reference to many historical facts.

Teachers unable to take discipinary action

Need I go on.

Regards

Mick

So by the "educational establishment" you mean the DfEE and HMI?
I have to agree with many of the examples you have raised, but I think a little more care needs to be made with specifically who you are referring to - I am a teacher by the way!

Posted on: 25 April 2007 by JoeH

quote:
Originally posted by Chillkram:
Boys will be boys and girls will be girls.

Surely it's:

'Girls will be boys
And boys will be girls'

('Lola', Ray Davies)