A close encounter of the CDS3 kind.

Posted by: Minky on 14 September 2003

I guess that some would say that the system that I just listened to :

CDS3/200/202/hicap/Intro2

Is a MULLET, but folks, I was more than a little surprised at how much sense it made musically, especially given my rather lofty standards. I came away well and truly convinced that :

1) Source first IS really important. Put top quality juice into Intros and they can move air very nicely indeed.

2) The CDS3 IS top quality juice. From my short out out-of-context demo it appears to annihilate the CDS2 in a similar fashion to the way the 552 dispatches the 52. In Technical terms it kicks it's arse.

3) I should have stayed away.

4) I've gots to have me one.

Love, Minky.

P.S. Smile
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by redeye
Well get yer bleedin' chequebook out then! Wink

Rico certainly seems to like his and I'm sure it'd make Murph's day.


red
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by jimlevitt
What you heard was the opposite of a Mullet. You heard a heavy-duty source-first system, heavy in the front. Mullets are short in the front, long in the back.

Robert Harley in the Absolute Sound magazine has been raving about a Nait 5/Wilson Sophia system. That is a mullet. Not to say that it couldn't sound great, though.
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by Minky
Andrew,

Nope, that didn't work. Can you hit me a little bit harder please ? I'm floating on the edge of the mighty CDS3's event horizon and it's pulling me in fast. Help me !

If you really want a job that involves juggling writing and maintaining systems for 3 shipping companies AND pretending to be being a manager (i.e. attending a never-ending stream of pointless meetings) be my guest; you can have mine. Now that I discovered the joys of the "reverse mullet" I can afford to get a job stacking shelves in a supermarket. Cool !
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by Rico
quote:
I guess that some would say that the system that I just listened to :

CDS3/200/202/hicap/Intro2

Is a MULLET,

Minky

Jim is correct - you've listened to the anti-mullett. By definitiion, a mullett is short at the top, long at the back.

Happy listening. Wink

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 15 September 2003 by Chris Murphy
I felt honour bound your holiness.....
Posted on: 15 September 2003 by Minky
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Murphy:
I felt honour bound your holiness.....


That's the guy mista ! He's the one what done it ! Here I am just strollin darn the road minding me own bizz and this Murph geezer grabs me by the short'n'curlies and drags me inta that orrid little shop of is and before I knows it, I'm falling deep into the spell of is wicked black box. Gawd strike me darn if it ain't so guvna Wink

Andrew et al,

Although all this talk of sluts and Meridians and starving families and Boltons has put my head in a whirl, I regret that I am still besotted with the fulsome black filly I now simply call "3". I fear that I may be beyond the point of no return. Can't anyone dissuade me from this loathsome act ?
Posted on: 15 September 2003 by Chris Murphy
No
Posted on: 15 September 2003 by Minky
Then may god have mercy on my wretched soul Frown
Posted on: 15 September 2003 by Chris Murphy
See...what are we supposed to do...damned if we tell you about it, damned if we don't. Smile
Posted on: 15 September 2003 by Bosh
"Mullet + AntiMullet == Bugger all purchased"

Or should that read CD5/552/500/Intro
Posted on: 17 September 2003 by kuma
quote:
Robert Harley in the Absolute Sound magazine has been raving about a Nait 5/Wilson Sophia system. That is a mullet. Not to say that it couldn't sound great, though.


The reasson I've decided to give Naim a second listen is the demo I had with a local dealer where I have listened to cds3/552/500 with WATT/Puppy System 6 ( and system 7 ).

Naim is a few kit that actually gives life to Wilson. They both are soooo precise but together it does not sound *trite*.
Posted on: 17 September 2003 by Tuan
quote:
Originally posted by kuma:
[QUOTE]Robert Harley in the Absolute Sound magazine has been raving about a Nait 5/Wilson Sophia system. That is a mullet. Not to say that it couldn't sound great, though.


That is why TAS magazine is a sad joke (laugh)... and reading HiFi+ is like reading Playboys (but for HiFi equipment).
Posted on: 17 September 2003 by Rico
quote:
Out of curiosity, has anyone here done a demo between the CDS3 and a CDS2 with XPS2/SXPS Burndy?


Yes, but rather breifly, and not particularly scientific.

My CDS3 has not yet finished running in - it's been going for about 8 weeks, I think its mostly stable... still noting small improvements, although difficult to say as the 252 is still very new too.

I had powered the CDS3 down for about 3 hours in order to play CDX, and the CDS2, on the XPS2 and S-XPS. The CDS2 was played for a couple of hours, so was clearly not completely warmed up... (it sertainly improved over the time) it played well, and yes the XPS2/S-XPS does indeed raise the bar significantly (borne out by previous trial).
Reintroducing the CDS3 cold and stoney to the power supply made the CDS2 seem somewhat bandwidth limited... the CDS2 skips along very nicely and played the great music to which I had become accustomed over the past year or so. The CDS3 sounded like it had just been roused from sleep, and of course being so cold one would expect it. What it did give you was a glimpse of what it does when warm - loads more information about the musical intent of the performaer, deep dark dirty guitars... wider bandwidth looking more like a rollercoaster ride than a bumpy busride.

I acknowledge that's not an exhaustive test, and was done under cold conditions. I've already bought the CDS3 and was selling the CDS2, so I didn't need the nth degree demo.

One can sum it up with "the King is dead, long live the King". And with that, best I head off and play some dread zeppelin.

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 17 September 2003 by Minky
quote:
Originally posted by Rico:
What it did give you was a glimpse of what it does when warm - loads more information about the musical intent of the performaer, deep dark dirty guitars... wider bandwidth looking more like a rollercoaster ride than a bumpy busride.



Wait a minute. I can't stand "deep dark dirty guitars" and would take a bumpy bus ride over a rollercoaster ride any day. Looks like I can keep the CDS2 after all ! Hoorah ! God bless you Rico Smile
Posted on: 17 September 2003 by Ron Toolsie
quote:
One can sum it up with "the King is dead, long live the King". And with that, best I head off and play some dread zeppelin.



Oddly enough, that is exactly what I played yesterday. The tunefulness of the bass line on 'Your time is gonna come' was very compelling- rather more so than on the CDS2. Great music.. great sound.

Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo


Posted on: 18 September 2003 by Minky
I agree. When I went from a CDS to a CDS2 I felt I had gained a lot of extra detail and finesse at the expense of, for want of a better word, the "V8" sound. I know that the CDS2 is supposed to be the more analogue sounding player but I reckon that the CDS sounds more like an LP12 than the CDS2. From my brief listen to the CDS3, along with the other goodies you also get a whiff of the original CDS.