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Originally posted by Chayro:
It only goes to show what years of eating meat and taking drugs most people have probably never heard of can do for your creativity. Sad but true.

Is there any statistical data available on which one ate the most meat (we must allow for Paul's pre-Linda days). I probably have a fairly clear grasp on which one took the most drugs.

Sorry the PM disappointed - I haven't heard it. Is it just the songs ? ....or the over-all package ie production etc ? or both/all ? He still has a grasp on public relations and marketing that few can match (other than U2). Always unfortunate when someone you generally respect (I assume that is why you bought it) disappoints vis a vis the hype.

Jeff A

Jeff, frankly, when you have great songs, the production doesn't really matter all that much. IN this case, the songs were extremely poor, IMO. I was never crazy about Paul's post-Beatle writing, but this stuff is pretty low. His voice is sounding good though. Forgot to put that in the first time.

Many great songwriters lose their ability over time. The wealth and adulation often quell the inner pain that much art grows from.

Who was the (very cruel) wag who pointed out that the Beatles are dying in the wrong order?

G

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Originally posted by Chayro:
Jeff, frankly, when you have great songs, the production doesn't really matter all that much...... Many great songwriters lose their ability over time. The wealth and adulation often quell the inner pain that much art grows from.

Agreed.

I will seek out Jorma's disc and give it a listen. Thanks.

Jeff A

Glad I could recommend something of interest. Amazon.com has it. Good place. You can buy a CD and a snowblower at the same time. Try that at Elusive Disc!

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Originally posted by Chayro:
Glad I could recommend something of interest. Amazon.com has it.

I'll pass on the snow blower .... but I do like amazon, though it pains me a bit each time I use them instead of my local record outlets which may eventually disappear (not talking the Circuit Citys and Best Buys but "real" music shops I previously frequented) .... I no longer feel a one hour to one hour and half round trip of 20-30 miles due to traffic and stop lights worth my while when I can be home listening. I and the world have changed.

Many years ago I was a huge Airplane fan and followed all of their branches. Still think the original Hot Tuna disc is 30 minutes of the finest listening available. But my tastes followed in many other directions as well till I again found Jorma during my following of some near-jam bands who often fancy the bluegrass genre edges. Jorma puts on an annual "conference/gathering" of musicians and students in Ohio of all places.

Further along in some of the thoughts presented in this thread ...

Don't know if you read the hi-fi rags at all, but the December Stereophile has what I think is an interesting essay on artist/music/listening by Art Dudley.

I have been wrestling a bit with some of the things mentioned in this thread in my own listening... to the newest David Gray disc. I may be one of the few on this forum who think he is an excellent songwriter, especially his pre-White Ladder catalogue and subsequent New Day At Midnight. I think his newest, Life In Slow Motion has some wonderful songwriting on it, but I am struggling to get around DG's presentation/production of the songs. He obviously sees/hears them in a different way than I, though I cannot deny my connection to the "songs". I continue to listen to it trying to grasp what he is giving me, and why he chooses to present it that way. His 'artistic intent" and my "listening connection" are not complete, but for me it does not dilute the quality of his songs on this disc.

Just some Sunday morning rambling ...

Jeff A

"I was never crazy about Paul's post-Beatle writing, but this stuff is pretty low."


What about Flaming Pie? I thought that was pretty good.