Pink Floyd

ryan_d,
Of course 'The Wall' is the best Floyd album - and also where Waters finally lays to rest the whole Syd/Pink thing.

Nuno,

Has already been said but get 'Meddle', 'DSOTM', 'WYWH' seperately, you cannot appreciate these great albums simply by listening to just bits of each one. Try 'Animals' too but unfortunately a terrible recording. Pity, some really great music on here.
'The Final Cut' is a must, essentially the first Waters solo album and spews hatred at everything that was so wrong at that time. I may be biased here, i lost a good friend on HMS Sheffield.
Take your time getting through them
And enjoy...

Yes WYWH is one of my favourites too.
If you like the 70s Pink Floyd sound, and in particular David Gilmours guitar, then I truly recommend:
- David Gilmour "On an Island" from 2006
- David Gilmour "David Gilmour" from 1978

Regards,
Holger

In high school I was driving with friends after a movie and Echoes was on the radio, we ended up crawling along in a fog in the canyon. it was a very trippy scene and we hadn't smoked anything.

In college my last roommate played that Furry Critters Grooving to a Pict piece, I loved it. And I've always loved the dog on Meddle, makes me giggle every time.

I've never heard the first Piper album. Sigh!

For me the better Pink Floyd Albums are (in random order) :

The Wall
Animals
Atom Heart Mother
Dark Side of the Moon
Meddle
Final Cut
Wish You Were Here

But if you like the old psychadelic sound Piper at the gates of dawn is also good.

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Originally posted by MilesSmiles:
IMHO these albums work best as a concept album listening from the first track to the last - you miss out on a lot if you don't get the whole album - just think of the many great transitions between tracks.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Regarding the BEST Pink Floyd album: The answer is very simple - there is no such thing, there are merely different moods. However, post Waters Pink Floyd is, in my opinion, not Pink Floyd proper. The creative symbiosis was broken and all that remained was a hollow name...

I love this thread as Pink Floyd played a tremendously important role in my move towards audiophilia when I was a teen. Their albums became benchmark recordings for judging new components and potential upgrades. Their beautiful recordings and superbly engineered sound simply demand good equipment and will make it shine. Pink Floyd's sound accompanied and propelled me from my first set up to my last.

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Regarding the BEST Pink Floyd album: The answer is very simple - there is no such thing, there are merely different moods. However, post Waters Pink Floyd is, in my opinion, not Pink Floyd proper. The creative symbiosis was broken and all that remained was a hollow name...

Very well put, Juergen, for which I totally agree. It is also a great first impression left on my mind as I regard all Floyd fans as an extended family to me!!!

Regards,

Jon

And here's a follow up Floyd question:

Are you a Gilmore fan or a Waters fan - either or I'm afraid. And I fully know the history of Pink Floyd so I know all the issues raised by this.

Incidentally, I am with Waters myself.

I look forward to your responses!

Jon

Jon

(Thats not a new name of mine by the way!)

Roger Waters - without question..

I'll say neither. The last album I can even listen to all the way through, and also my most played, is the last collaborative effort from all four middle-period PF members:

Wish You Were Here.

(Nuno, you NEED this album, for all the reasons already given.)

Gilmour definitely, but that goes for other bands too.

Genesis - Steve Hackett was the main attraction, it really is not Genesis for me without him, although I do like 'Duke' after, and 'Trespass' before.

Yes - Steve Howe, it basically is not Yes for me without him, definitely not with Rabin. Even 'Drama' is Yes for me, definitely not '90210'.

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Originally posted by JamieL:
Gilmour definitely, but that goes for other bands too.

Genesis - Steve Hackett was the main attraction, it really is not Genesis for me without him, although I do like 'Duke' after, and 'Trespass' before.

Yes - Steve Howe, it basically is not Yes for me without him, definitely not with Rabin. Even 'Drama' is Yes for me, definitely not '90210'.

What about VdGG then?

Fripp?

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Are you a Gilmore fan or a Waters fan

Syd

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Originally posted by Consciousmess:
And here's a follow up Floyd question:

Are you a Gilmore fan or a Waters fan - either or I'm afraid.

Hello Jon,

A provocative question...

All I can say is that I enjoyed two of Waters' post Pink Floyd solo albums, whereas I did not enjoy post Waters Pink Floyd, nor any other Gilmour solo efforts, whether early or late.

Waters' 'Pros and Cons of Hithchiking' and his 'Amused to Death' were decent albums, which proved that Waters can get by when he substitutes Gilmour's guitar playing with that of other great guitarists - Clapton and Beck respectively. Both albums were however marred by Waters' tendency to overindulge in sound effects wizardry, which, though spectacular, can become overbearing. This tendency of Waters also had an impact on 'The Wall' and 'Final Cut', but in these cases a beneficial one in that it helped to tell stories. 'The Wall' and 'Final Cut' were arguably Waters solo albums in all but name, particularly the latter. They were however great, but 'Pros and Cons' and 'Amused to Death' were merely decent. 'Radio Kaos' was a failure.

I would side with Waters in that he arguably was the driving force behind Pink Floyd's greatest moments, particularly their lyrics. One could even say that Gilmour, Wright and Mason merely served a functional role. They brought out the best in Waters, and provided much needed temperance, and therefore helped Waters to make Pink Floyd truly astounding.

However, as I write this, I feel guilt in that Gilmour's contribution should neither be dismissed nor underestimated. Gilmour is not a virtuoso guitarist, but his melodious guitar solos were his gift to the union. Beck and Clapton are virtuosos, particularly the former, but I cannot remember a single guitar solo from either 'Pros and Cons' or 'Amused'. Yet, Gilmour's guitar solos for Pink Floyd will forever echo in my mind.

In the end, without the creative chemistry created by their union neither musician lived up to his full potential. Though, arguably, Waters had, and has, greater potential. Alas, what a shame that this gloriuos union was split asunder.

Now what's he looking at?

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Originally posted by seagull:

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Originally posted by JamieL:
Gilmour definitely, but that goes for other bands too.

Genesis - Steve Hackett was the main attraction, it really is not Genesis for me without him, although I do like 'Duke' after, and 'Trespass' before.

Yes - Steve Howe, it basically is not Yes for me without him, definitely not with Rabin. Even 'Drama' is Yes for me, definitely not '90210'.

What about VdGG then?

Fripp?

Well, not every band revolves around the guitarist.

Fripp is indeed my favourite guitarist, and I guess I am just lucky that he happened to guest with my favourite band.

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Originally posted by munch:
Both of them

What Syd and Barrett

Nobody seems to mention the Floyd's lead guitarist Bob Klose - he was on The Pink Floyd Sounds's excellent first single Lucy Leave - written by Syd, of course. No self-respecting Floyd fan can feel their collection is complete without this and the Magnesium Proverbs album - essential IMO.

ATB Rotf

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Originally posted by munch:
Both of them

A Nice Pair - so that's where he got the idea from

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Originally posted by Lontano:
Now what's he looking at?

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Originally posted by munch:
Both of them

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Originally posted by ROTF:

What Syd and Barrett

Is that what she calls 'em?

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Originally posted by JamieL:

Well, not every band revolves around the guitarist.

Indeed the best prog-rock bands of 'em all didn't - ELP, Caravan, Colosseum or Soft Machine. Even the wonderful Atomic Rooster were led by the keyboard man.

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Originally posted by Lontano:

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Originally posted by munch:
Both of them

A Nice Pair - so that's where he got the idea from

This still one my favourite Floyd albums despite the dubious sound quality




1. Lucy Leave
2. King Bee
3. See Emily Play
4. Arnold Layne
5. Candy And A Currant Bun
6. Flaming
7. Pow R Toc H
8. Astronomy Domine
9. Interstellar Overdrive
10. Reaction In G
11. Stoned Alone
12. Vegetable Man
13. Scream Thy Last Scream (Old Woman With A Casket)
14. Apples And Oranges
15. Baby Lemonade
16. Dominoes
17. Love Song
18. Terrapin
19. Gigolo Aunt
20. Effervescing Elephant
21. Octopus
22. Clowns And Jugglers
23. Mystery Bits
24. Jugband Blues

the best albums are subjective to individual taste. to say one is better than the other is mere personal oppinion, its not factual.
for me its either division bell or momentory lapse, but waters amused to death destroys any floyd group album,both lyrical and with technical content, the best of the lot imo.
also, gilmours latest set "live in gdansk" is floyd and gimour, and takes some beating.

like i said at the beginning, its subjective and not a given to which is the best floyd album, but merely personal taste.

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Originally posted by Consciousmess:


Are you a Gilmore fan or a Waters fan - either or I'm afraid. And I fully know the history of Pink Floyd so I know all the issues raised by this.

Incidentally, I am with Waters myself.

I knew that as soon as I saw your spelling mistake...

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Originally posted by al f:
the best albums are subjective to individual taste. to say one is better than the other is mere personal oppinion, its not factual.

Have do disagree - it an indisputable fact that Piper At The Gates of Dawn is the best album by The Pink Floyd.

Yawn!!!!