Charles Kennedy "I am having a ***"

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Originally posted by Stephen Tate:
I don't know for sure, but i would imagine the biggest killers in this country are booze and heart decease.

Drink kills alot more innocent people than smoking, even all the drugs put together.

I know nobody who has ever died of passive smoking. I know quite a few who have died through drink. This is the real innocence Killer!

In my pub last night, everyone smoked bar two people, still it was nice to talk and meet people by breaking the ice with ' you gotta light?'

It will be hair nets on a building site next.

Regards, Steve

I agree that the rule is somewhat over regulated. With the signs that have to be put in place.

But how would you feel if I pinned you down and forced alcohol down your neck if you werent a drinker.

The litter of fag ends outside places now is disgusting, these smokers who drop their fags on the floor are just pure scum.

What is really wrong with my right, as a drinker, to go out, enjoy several beers and not have the foul carcinogenic smell of fags pushed onto me.

You are just going to have to lump it, the law has done us a favour, by giving us a choice.

I no longer have to go out, to return with my clothes smelling like a tramp.

Get over it.

Well i agree to a certain extent but like everything else it can/does go pathetically over the top and negates any commonsense that gets put into line.

This smoking lark is only the start i feel and that soon it will be something else.

They could start on music next, telling us what we are allowed too or not to listen to.

I would'nt be in the slightest bit surprised.

Regards, Steve

Poor Charles Kennedy. Another nail in the coffin of his career. It would seem with his addictions he isn't going to be anything other than a liability now and I imagine that his party will try to distance themselves from him as much as possible.
To think he was once the leader of the party. Poor old sod; he's becoming rather a pathetic figure. In any other career he'd be fine, but politics....nah.

And on that note: i'm having a fag and i don't give a kinell who's watching.

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I don't know for sure, but i would imagine the biggest killers in this country are booze and heart decease.

Drink kills alot more innocent people than smoking, even all the drugs put together.

Not true. The smoking related illnesses that kill people include many forms of cancer, heart, circulatory and respiratory disease. People with diabetes or hypertension can also guarantee to make their conditions worse by smoking too.

Nobody is well advised to abuse alcohol, but the problems with tobacco smoke are not related to excess. There is no safe level of tobacco consumption.

But all of this pales against the overiding difference between the two, when it comes to public bans.

With alcohol - no amount of individual consumption affects that of others. Whether the behaviour of the individual then affects others is irrelevent. The amount of my drinking has no effect on the level of alcohol that you consume - simple as that. It is not a valid comparison.

Steve

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With alcohol - no amount of individual consumption affects that of others. Whether the behaviour of the individual then affects others is irrelevent. The amount of my drinking has no effect on the level of alcohol that you consume - simple as that. It is not a valid comparison.

Not true!

Alcohol is a bigger problem in Briton than smoking in my book. Most people i knew including children have died under the influence of alcohol not bloody passive smoking.
And piss heads are a bloody dangerous and a real menace to society.

You have only got to look at the brits abroad when on the beer.

P.S The one thing i do loath though and that is smoking around children, this really is bad, Oh and my Hi Fi of course, especially the cd player.

I'm out, this thread is running dry for me.

Regards, Steve ( finding it difficult to accept)

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Chaps

The banning of smoking in pubs is long overdue. I affect no one when I drink my beer but the guy smoking across the room is making everyone elses clothes stink and it is plain bloody selfish.

We will all consider this perfectly normal this time next year anyway.

Regards

Mick

Absolutely

Enjoyed a wonderful couple of beers in a smoke free pub last night, it was much more pleasurable for me than wafting away smoke from my face most of the night. I also enjoyed eating my meal without the 'tab' coulis added to the chops. It also used to trigger my asthma.

It is absolutely common sense for it to be banned. I agree there are major harms done with eating highly fatty, highly sugared, highly salted foods. I agree there is massive, often hidden problems with drinking that are storing up health problems for the future. We do though have a choice whether we drink alcohol or eat unhealthy food. Banning smoking is an excellent way to cease the harms done by passive smoking and let's face it, nowadays it's pretty anti social anyway. I agree with MP. This time next year it will all be water under the bridge. Next year we'll have something else to 'chunter' about.

Regards

Diccus

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Not true!

Alcohol is a bigger problem in Briton than smoking in my book. Most people i knew including children have died under the influence of alcohol not bloody passive smoking.
And piss heads are a bloody dangerous and a real menace to society.

That maybe so, but it does not alter the fact that alcohol is consumed only by the people drinking it. Nobody passively drinks.

The fact that people choose to drink (or eat, for that matter) to excess is a totally different problem to their habit directly affecting others.

Steve

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passive smoking and let's face it, nowadays it's pretty anti social anyway. I agree with MP. This time next year it will all be water under the bridge. Next year we'll have something else to 'chunter' about.

Absolutely right. In a few years time, people will look back on it and wonder how it was ever thought acceptable.

Steve

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Nobody passively drinks.

that would be like, osmosis, right? I see a short comedy skit with aliens who come to earth and discover that in the course of replenishing lost fluids by osmosis clock on to pissing it up for free in pubs. oh never mind.

As long as they don't need to go to the pub toilet Rico. Ughh..!