Traditional songs

Posted by: Nathaniel on 09 December 2009

Can anyone recommend any traditional songs, and recordings of those songs, that they really enjoy?

I appreciate that this has huge scope, so let me narrow things down with a single example.

A couple of years ago, I heard Dougie Maclean singing Ca' the Yowes (it's available on his Tribute album). I really like it.

When I first heard it, I knew it was a setting of a Robbie Burns poem, but thought that the music was Maclean's.

A year (or so) ago, I found some other references to Ca' the Yowes set to music, and discovered that the setting was the same--it wasn't Dougie Maclean's at all, but an older traditional song. Arguably, the most famous recording is by Kathleen Ferrier (a thread on another forum made prompted me to start this one).

It turns out that everyone in the generations above me in my family (all Scottish) knows this song and has sung it in their youth. Yet I had neither heard it, nor heard of it. I feel very ignorant.

It makes me wonder what other traditional gems (of any british origin) are out there that may be passing me by, or more worryingly, may be passing away.
Posted on: 09 December 2009 by chaliapin
Nathaniel,

You might want to try the following.
Down by the Salley Gardens by Benjamin Luxon and David Willison (Chandos).
The last rose of summer by Ann Murray and Graham Johnson (Helios/Hyperion).
Songs of Scotland by Marie McLaughlin and Malcolm Martineau (Hyperion).

A lot depends on how 'pure' or 'arranged' you like the songs. For myself, I would rather hear an RVW or Kennedy-Fraser arrangement than listen to the original shepherd singing unaccompanied etc. People can get a bit agitated about this and it largely comes down to personal taste. For myself, I like a decent voice (and they don't come much better than Kathleen Ferrier) accompanied by a piano. Some find that an unacceptable adornment or an overcomplication of what is meant to be a simple art etc. I take the view that it's good music in its own right. The same is true for RVW choral arrangements of folk songs (you might want to start with Hyperion's Over hill, over dale.

In any event, I find that while I have copies of Winterreise and Schone Mullerin etc, it's Butterworth, Gurney, Somervell, RVW and so on that I go back to more often. It puts me firmly in what's called 'the cowpat school' but I don't care. Which reminds me - have a listen to a double album called War's embers again by Hyperion and make absolutely certain you listen to Bryn Terfel's The vagabond .

If you want to go a little further back, try the likes of Kenneth McKellar or John McCormack.

I really envy you - there is so much wonderful song for you to discover and I wish you all the best on your journey.
Posted on: 09 December 2009 by Blueknowz
Try & find a copy of this


Track Listings
1. Rose of Allendale
2. Lovin' You
3. Loving Hannah
4. My Donald
5. Crusader
6. Anachie Gordon
7. Home
8. God Bless the Child
9. Rare's Hil
Posted on: 10 December 2009 by Derry
If you want traditional folk song in all its raw glory try:

Hidden English (TSCD 600) is an English traditional "greatest hits" featuring many of the great names and celebrated songs/tunes. (Topic Records)
Posted on: 10 December 2009 by fama


Includes Rivonia

The Corrie Folk TrioThis is Hamish Henderson's famous "Free Nelson Mandela" song recorded at the School of Scottish Studies in 1968 and sent to the South African Freedom Fighters in the field.

And The Freedom Come-All-Ye which many regard as a superior alternative anthem for Scotland


"Roch the wind in the clear day's dawin
Blaws the cloods heilster-gowdie owre the bay
But there's mair nor a roch wind blawin
Thro the Great Glen o the warld the day
It's a thocht that wad gar oor rottans
Aa thae rogues that gang gallus fresh an gay
Tak the road an seek ither loanins
Wi thair ill-ploys tae sport an play
Nae mair will our bonnie callants
Merch tae war when oor braggarts crousely craw
Nor wee weans frae pitheid an clachan
Mourn the ships sailin doun the Broomielaw
Broken faimlies in lands we've hairriet
Will curse 'Scotlan the Brave' nae mair, nae mair
Black an white ane-til-ither mairriet
Mak the vile barracks o thair maisters bare
Sae come aa ye at hame wi freedom
Never heed whit the houdies croak for Doom
In yer hoos aa the bairns o Adam
Will find breid, barley-bree an paintit rooms
When Maclean meets wi's friens in Springburn
Aa thae roses an geans will turn tae blume
An the black lad frae yont Nyanga
Dings the fell gallows o the burghers doun."
track list

Tracks
Listen
1. The Ballad of the D-Day Dodgers

Tune: Lili MarleneSung by Rod Paterson
2. So Long

Poem read by Fred Freeman
3. The Flyting o' Life and Daith

Sung by Alison McMorland
4. Victory Hoedown

Sung by Adam McNaughtan
5. Rivonia

The Corrie Folk TrioThis is Hamish Henderson's famous "Free Nelson Mandela" song recorded at the School of Scottish Studies in 1968 and sent to the South African Freedom Fighters in the field.
6. The Freedom Come-All-Ye

Tune- The Bloody Fields of Flanders / MaclellanSung by Jim Reid
7. Ninth Elegy

Poem: read by Margaret Bennett.Song: Thug Oirinn Oro sung by Margaret - one of Hamish's favourite Gaelic songs.
8. The Ballad of the Men of Knoydart

Tune: Johnston's Motor Car - sung by Geordie McIntyre
9. The Speaking Heart

Sung by Gordeanna McCulloch
10. The Song of the Gillie More

sung by Dick Gaughan
11. The 51st Highland Division's Farewell to Sicily

Tune Farewell to the Creeks: sung by Hamish Henderson
12. The John MacLean March

sung by The Laggan
13. Pipe Tunes / Lament for the Son

Pipe Tunes - Allan MacDonaldLatha Dhan Fhinn Am Beinn Loghnaidh / Taladh Dhomhnaill GhuirmPoem: Lament for the Son - read by Fred Freeman
14. Mouth Music

Hamish Henderson
15. Auld Reekie's Roses

Eurydice Choir with Gordeanna McCulloch
16. My Son David

The magnificent voice of the great Jeannie Robertson recorded by Hamish in 1960.From the archives of the School of Scottish Studies.
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Margaret Bennett
In the sunny long ago.
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Posted on: 10 December 2009 by Guido Fawkes
The best collection of traditional music is that of Shirley Collins

However there are other wonderful traditionalists around



Posted on: 10 December 2009 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by Blueknowz:
Try & find a copy of this


Track Listings
1. Rose of Allendale
2. Lovin' You
3. Loving Hannah
4. My Donald
5. Crusader
6. Anachie Gordon
7. Home
8. God Bless the Child
9. Rare's Hil
Of course - wonderful.
Posted on: 10 December 2009 by JWM
It's got to be Owen Brannigan for classic Geordie songs. A good selection being neatly available on:

Posted on: 11 December 2009 by Blueknowz
quote:
Originally posted by ROTF:
The best collection of traditional music is that of Shirley Collins

However there are other wonderful traditionalists around





ROTF, Is that the Anne Breen from N.Ireland?
Posted on: 11 December 2009 by Mat Cork
No, not this lass...she's from Nottingham.
Posted on: 11 December 2009 by Blueknowz
I must have a touch of Dyslexia!