Best **** 3 chip DLP projector?

Cost no object...?!

Take a peak at Meridian Reference 810 ! Unbelievable.

Slightly lower in the range is the combi MF10 projector & DVP1080 processor - the projector actually a combination of LCD and DLP...approx £14k.

SIM2 arguably make the best top end projectors next to the reference Meridian, although I think you would need a truck to have the £40k HT5000 delivered to your house..! They do have models lower down to about £6k.

At slightly below that mark, there's plenty of choice - Marantz (very good), Sim2, Infocus, Sony and JVC (which I believe provides the internals for many projectors)...I believe the JVC 750 is the current favourite at around £5-6k point.

There used to be a Pioneer projector, probably discontinued now after the companies withdrawal from the TV sector - I always wanted to see it and was 1/2 interested in it when I got my Kuro screen, but never did...Whether it continued the standards of Pioneer's visuals I don't know....I recently seen it price slashed on a dealer website, so I guess they are remaining units - good value though.

I think you are in the US (?) but you could have a look at TLC Broadcast here in the UK - would give you a decent overview of some of these models....

Happy projecting !

Steve

IN North America, best are:

Digital Projection seconded only by Runco, but Runco service is less than perfect since its purchase by Planar.
Sorry SC but what you are listing are really not in the same ligue as Digital Projection Inc., they are the inventor of the DLP technology developped by TI.

I'm sure they are not...! But perhaps in the real world, and real budgets, they are more viable brands...

I would suggest you find a good dealer first. The differences between LCD and DLP is vast. I am a big DLP fan although I have sold a lot of LCD projectors to customers who do not like DLP.

Good models DLP from Sim2 and Marantz.

Good models LCD JVC and Pioneer(Re-badged JVC)

Your room will make a vast difference to the picture quality. Dark walls ceilings are best remember no projector can project black it can only project no light. So if you have a light room those 20,000-1 contrast ratios thrown about are pie in the sky.

Take along some DVD/Blu Rays to a dealer and have some fun. Your biggest choice at this stage is are you a DLP or LCD person.

Best VALUE in my humble opinion are the JVC models at c £2.5k and £5k but I don't think they are DLP. JVC have been using their own, separate technology for the past 5 years or so, D-ILA i think its called

I think the Pioneer Kuro projectors are re-badged JVCs

Cheers

Don

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I would hang on for a few months.

Without something very specific to go on, you could be saying that every six months for ever...........

JVCs D-ILA current projectors are dam good. Evidence? well appart from having seen them with my own eyes, a number of well respected dealers I know have bought them for themselves and started stocking them. Certainly worth a very close look.

Cheers

Don

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Originally posted by Manu:
IN North America, best are:

Digital Projection seconded only by Runco, but Runco service is less than perfect since its purchase by Planar.
Sorry SC but what you are listing are really not in the same ligue as Digital Projection Inc., they are the inventor of the DLP technology developped by TI.

Seconded, my wee Runco was noticibly better than any other projector I looked at up to almost twice it's price! I really need a blu-ray to get the most out of it though.

Thank you for the vision...
I have a mitsu 65 inch dlp tv. I like the looks of the picture but, have an issue with black. I have heard that the new dlp tv and projection have a much higher contrast ratio. Is this actually true?

Don- JVC kickin it?
marc

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Originally posted by Sonik:
I would suggest you find a good dealer first. The differences between LCD and DLP is vast. I am a big DLP fan although I have sold a lot of LCD projectors to customers who do not like DLP.

Good models DLP from Sim2 and Marantz.

Good models LCD JVC and Pioneer(Re-badged JVC)

Your room will make a vast difference to the picture quality. Dark walls ceilings are best remember no projector can project black it can only project no light. So if you have a light room those 20,000-1 contrast ratios thrown about are pie in the sky.

Take along some DVD/Blu Rays to a dealer and have some fun. Your biggest choice at this stage is are you a DLP or LCD person.

I am afraid that lcd just can not keep up with the action. I have seen ballgames where the ball just looked silly flying through the air
..Has this changed?
Marc

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Don- JVC kickin it?

Not sure, things change rapidly in this market, but their D-ILA technology was used in "professional" projectors for quite a while and Pioneer bought into the technology recently. Its a seriously good format and I wouldn't brush it aside even if JVC and Pioneer were to discontinue production - they would probably still provide after-sales support just like Pioneer are doing with their Kuro plasmas.

Munch obviously hasn't managed to get through to you yet on the phoney line?

Cheers

Don

JVC's £5k 750 is D-ILA and stonkingly good. Ignore at your peril. That said, Epson have just released a very impressive LCD projector at £3.5k which isn't quite as good as the JVC but pretty darned good.

Put it this way, do you intend to use black cloth around the screen and ceiling? If not, the difference in performance of their black resolution (i.e. shades of dark) could be wiped out by your room. That good, and real surprise is that the Epson's motion is right up there with the JVC, maybe just a smidgen off. Oh, and the Epson comes with a 5-year warranty and free bulbs for the duration of the warranty.

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Originally posted by Frank Abela:
JVC's £5k 750 is D-ILA and stonkingly good. Ignore at your peril. That said, Epson have just released a very impressive LCD projector at £3.5k which isn't quite as good as the JVC but pretty darned good.

Put it this way, do you intend to use black cloth around the screen and ceiling? If not, the difference in performance of their black resolution (i.e. shades of dark) could be wiped out by your room. That good, and real surprise is that the Epson's motion is right up there with the JVC, maybe just a smidgen off. Oh, and the Epson comes with a 5-year warranty and free bulbs for the duration of the warranty.

Frank-
MY room has a lite disability. meaning,too much!
It does wash out the Mitsu during parts of the day. Really not sure how to get around this until next move. Then a dedicated room for video?
Is the JVC 750 DLP?
Marc

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Is the JVC 750 DLP?

Nope.
DLP uses mirrors that reflect the light.
D-ILA uses Liquid Crystals to reflect light.
LCD projectors use Liquid Crystals to transmit light

Cheers

Don

Sorry, forgot to add that JVC is D-ILA, but that has already been said a few times

Cheers

Don

A simple and effective solution to the reflection problem is to have black velvet cloth 3 feet wide suspended by swing-out spars above and to the side of the screen. Just having that much black stops many reflections making their way back onto the screen and washing out the picture. By using swing-out bars, you can put it in place and remove it on a whim. But daytime viewing is always going to be difficult...

As for D-ILA, it's an excellent technology, based on LCD but since it uses reflective crystals as opposed to sending light through them, you have much better scope for better black. Of course nothing's as good as a CRT projector but then you're talking loads of money, much higher maintenance costs and heaps of space and noise...

One of these could soon be replacing my Infocus IN81Infocus IN5300/5500

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One of these could soon be replacing my Infocus IN81

Full report and photos obligatory and keenly awaited...........what type of screen are you contemplating?

Should be absolutely brilliant

Cheers

Don

Don , I only have room for a 6x6 pull down s
screen because of structural restictions!

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Originally posted by Marc Newman:

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Originally posted by Sonik:
I would suggest you find a good dealer first. The differences between LCD and DLP is vast. I am a big DLP fan although I have sold a lot of LCD projectors to customers who do not like DLP.

Good models DLP from Sim2 and Marantz.

Good models LCD JVC and Pioneer(Re-badged JVC)

Your room will make a vast difference to the picture quality. Dark walls ceilings are best remember no projector can project black it can only project no light. So if you have a light room those 20,000-1 contrast ratios thrown about are pie in the sky.

Take along some DVD/Blu Rays to a dealer and have some fun. Your biggest choice at this stage is are you a DLP or LCD person.

I am afraid that lcd just can not keep up with the action. I have seen ballgames where the ball just looked silly flying through the air
..Has this changed?
Marc

Things are getting better

My view is that motion issues are dealt with better by DLP. DLP also seems a lot sharper with more three dimensional depth to the image. I know that the DILA technology is getting better, and also has fabulous black levels but my feeling is that it doesn't have the depth of image that DLP has even at this stage. Although I have sold and continue to sell lots of DILA and LCD projectors to customers who love em and don't like DLP. You really need to get to a good store and get "demming"

Stating the obvious but, nobody should ever buy a projector from a good review or somebody's recommendation without seeing it and some others first.

I'm with Sonik on this. Didn't like early DLPs but I fully think them the way to go at this time. I've seen the JVC etc. I just prefer the color accuracy, etc. on the better DLPs and they now have a smooth enough presentation. They're still the most light effecient which will matter to Marc and get plenty black with the latest chip. Marc, if you have a black level issue, you can investigate lower gain screens with higher output projectors. Some trade offs but worth a look.

I entered the projector world more than a year back with an Optoma HD65 which is a DLP. One thing that people are not mentioning in this thread is the rainbow artifacts. These might be bothersome to some people. Oddly enough, after a couple of months of use it went away completely.

Regards...

Rainbow artifacts are a factor to consider with single chip DLP projectors. Marc shouldn't need to worry about this with a 3-chip projector.