Music you just can't stand

You are always engaging in personal attacks, Mike. Anybody who doesn't agree with you is patronised and made to feel ignorant. It's just another form of an attack.

Sister xx

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Originally posted by Sister E.:
You are always engaging in personal attacks, Mike. Anybody who doesn't agree with you is patronised and made to feel ignorant. It's just another form of an attack.

Sister xx

You completely misread me.

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Originally posted by EJS:

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
It's interesting that Bruckner has no defenders.

Mike, in defense of Mr. Bruckner: not all of the nine are equal but 5, 8 and 9 are contenders for a place in the top 10 of greatest symphonies ever, IMO.

EJ



EJ

Why these three?

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Originally posted by munch:

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Originally posted by dav301:
Chris de Burgh

You can add him to my list also.

Mine too!!

Cant get my head round that Kraftwerk stuff, tried quite a few tracks on Spotify and well, dont get it.

I don't actively hate any music but I will take exception to many on this thread hating Hip Hop through shear ignorance a style of music that gave hope and belief to many impoverished in the Black and Hispanic communities of New York in the late 70's and it is something that I hold dear to my heart. Rap is only aspect of Hip Hop as it is a movement consisting of Rap, Turntablism, Graffiti, Break Dancing.

My oldest self bought record and a piece of music that we last for centuries. It introduced me to underground music made by people who were passionate about making a change in the communities they lived in.




Another favorite from a few years ago.




Modern English Hip Hop called Grime




Hip Hop as a movement changed the world and it continues to do so don't confuse it with mainstream Pop music that has assimilated a deep, eclectic and interesting style of music and spawned a shallow and self serving industry for pure monetary gain.



The Grandmaster Deano D..

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Originally posted by Howlinhounddog:

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Bagpipes (sounds like someone squeezing a cat)

And you know this how Steve ?

We have a cat.

steve

I'd like to add:

Radiohead
The Undertones - over-rated, amateurish, tosh
Dexy's Midnight Runners - as mentioned elsewhere
Chris De Bore
James Rhyming Slang Blunt

steve

Mendelsohnn was once asked what was more unpleasant than a bagpipe performance, and he replied that it was a massed-bagpipe performance!

No wonder they Scotts Regiments play them in warfare. It must terrify the living daylights out of the enemey!



ATB from George

Not in any particular order, but of the big names

Queen
Prince
Jamiroquai (or however the **** it is spelt - I won't do him the honor of googling him)
Beck
John Lennon (post Beatles)
Paul McCartney (post Beatles)
Elton John

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Originally posted by Lloydy:

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Originally posted by munch:

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Originally posted by dav301:
Chris de Burgh

You can add him to my list also.

Mine too!!

As I said earlier, me too! Though I refer to him as "Chris the Berk"

Dear Siss [Sister E],

Elgar’s Oratorios are quite hard work to get to know. I love Gerontius in the same sort of way that I love the astringent, but I agree that it is a difficult work for many. I knew it from the age of eleven and loved it without hesitation from the start, but the Kingdom and the Apostles cam much later for me.

Well apart from this:

The Sun Goeth Down

Sung by Isobel Bailey in 1947, and found by me among the 1200 78 discs in the school library at the tender age of 12.

This sounds much worse than that old shellac side, sadly.

Also I love and loved the Prelude to the Kingdom in Elgar’s own performance with the BBC So in 1933:

Prelude to Elgar's Oratorio, "The Kingdom."

Fortunately this is a very fine and enjoyable transfer.

But my association and gradual love of these two later works stems from my time playing in orchestras on the double bass. These two works are much loved in the West Midlands and the Potteries [Staffordshire], and as regular free-lance player, I would travel many miles for only one rehearsal and performance [and a fine fee plus porter-age] and I suppose these were, apart from Messiah and Elijah, the music I played most in my orchestral double bass playing carrier. I grew to love them and understand their massive subtlety, and immense craft, and after a while their massive artistic impact, but they are works best listened to and performed live.

So yes, whilst I will not disagree that they are a high hurdle, I will never the less advocate them as being of the first quality of music.

Very best wishes from George

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Originally posted by Dungassin:

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Originally posted by Lloydy:

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Originally posted by munch:

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Originally posted by dav301:
Chris de Burgh

You can add him to my list also.

Mine too!!

As I said earlier, me too! Though I refer to him as "Chris the Berk"

I just assumed he was on the list by default.

Nah! must have been someone else I think you'd been on the vino that day

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Originally posted by munch:
Dean,
When we tried to put that Barry Manilow picture disc double LP in your bag you said i hate him and slung it.
Stu

Dean...

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:

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Originally posted by EJS:

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
It's interesting that Bruckner has no defenders.

Mike, in defense of Mr. Bruckner: not all of the nine are equal but 5, 8 and 9 are contenders for a place in the top 10 of greatest symphonies ever, IMO.

EJ

Why these three?

They're good!

George, I have had copies of the Boutlt stereo recordings of the apostles and the kingdom for several years. I know you are an admirer of these scores but after countless listens, trying to wade through these works in their entirety still feels like plodding through quicksand. Sorry,

Sister xx

I agree! Boult's pioneering recordings of these - the Apostles and the Kingdom - don't do the works any favours. I had both and have parted with them - never tempted to get the CD versions.

These works need to be heard in the pasionate amateur choral productions here [with real Staffordshire or West midlands choirs with fire in the bellies], accompanied by the fiery local professional orchestras that are assembled - rather than bored metropolitan [London-based, I mean] choirs and bored out of their heads top orchestras. the notes are not hard to bring off, but the fervour is what is missing.

I wish I could help more, but get to a Three choirs Festival performance of them and you will have the cream of it and perhaps see what I am driving at.

I agree that this music is beyond the London music scene to bring off, and Boult was essentially a Londoner as well.

I wish Vernon Hnadley had recorded them with the Huddersfield choir, and perhaps we would have recordings that brought out the music!

ATB from George

I always think it's a pity to see a thread like this. Invariably the artists will be famous for what they have achieved, they just happen not to be to a poster's taste. So what?

Are we further forward? Is our understanding deepened? Is anyone inspired to try something they haven't heard? Probably not.

Joe

Why has nobody mentioned 'Sylvia's mother don't take your love to town', or, as it's December 'The little drummer boy' and 'Snoopy's Christmas'? A local radio station had an advert saying "Either send in your requests, or we'll keep playing 'Yummy yummy yummy, I've got love in my tummy'."

I am allergic to anything by Andrew Lloyd bloody Webber.

Cliff Richard.

A lot of modern classical, especially most things commissioned (with my licenece fee money) for the Proms. Tuneless pretentious horror to my ears.

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:
I always think it's a pity to see a thread like this. Invariably the artists will be famous for what they have achieved, they just happen not to be to a poster's taste. So what?

Are we further forward? Is our understanding deepened? Is anyone inspired to try something they haven't heard? Probably not.

Joe

And so what? That's exactly what a thread like this is about. Some things that I like have been mentioned as other's personal hates.

Me? I like most things, and even artists who I don't particularly like occasionally come up with IMO real gems. e.g. "Angels" by Robbie Williams.

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Originally posted by Dungassin:

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:
I always think it's a pity to see a thread like this. Invariably the artists will be famous for what they have achieved, they just happen not to be to a poster's taste. So what?

Are we further forward? Is our understanding deepened? Is anyone inspired to try something they haven't heard? Probably not.

Joe

And so what? That's exactly what a thread like this is about. Some things that I like have been mentioned as other's personal hates.

Me? I like most things, and even artists who I don't particularly like occasionally come up with IMO real gems. e.g. "Angels" by Robbie Williams.

When I started this thread, I hoped someone would rise to the defence of Richard Strauss, Bruckner, or both, causing me to give another listen.

That hasn't happened.

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
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When I started this thread, I hoped someone would rise to the defence of Richard Strauss, Bruckner, or both, causing me to give another listen.

That hasn't happened.

When you started this thread I thought exactly the same thing but I'm getting help and I'm now on medication.

Well, if that's what you wanted, why not just ask, instead of posting yet another snide topic starter?

I like both of these composers whom you affect to dislike, but I wouldn't waste my time trying to convince you.

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:


When I started this thread, I hoped someone would rise to the defence of Richard Strauss, Bruckner, or both, causing me to give another listen.

That hasn't happened.

I get where your intention was Mike, I guess the thread title just provoked the usual "slag fest" of artists people don't like. With plenty of "I don't like (insert to taste) .......so therefore I'm somehow smarter than the people who do" type posts.

It certainly would make for a more interesting read to hear why people 'like' stuff and I hope someone will come to the defence of the artists you mention.

Joe