SuBo

lol

PPS, Mongo....As a matter of interest have you actually played the album in question ? Just a thought.

By all the gods no!

I almost fell down when i read your suggestion. All i've heard is what i could not avoid when i accidently stepped into a room in which there was a television.

I recovered a little later with a fine and large glass of red.

I may have misrepresented my self earlier so hear goes again;

I have not the slightest interest in whether or not any of the talent show monkeys has any ability whatever. My position on the matter is simply that they should stick to butlins or panto and leave the release of music to real artists/musicians/singers/songwriters.

Production line stuff of the type of Cowell's offal and that same tat offered by Pete Waterman and brethren has no place in the world of real music but is best left for saturday night tv watchers and other ill people. Regards, Paul.

OK Paul,

Heres some of my favs in no particular order;

Floyd
Zepp
Early Genesis
Porcupine tree
Most blues
and.......er Susan Boyle - no im only joking !
All of which sound fab on my system and
As you can see my musical tastes are varied.
What are your musical delights ?
and whats your setup as its not in your profile.

Regards, Scotty

Hello again Scotty.

My set up is nait 5, Cd5, And Rega RS1's in a small room. I'll be adding a flatcap as soon as i can find one.

It's very difficult to state favourites so i'll tell what i've listened to most recently;

The Brandenburg concertos, very frequently,
Prefab Sprout,
Moody Blues ( new to me through this forum and fab),
Mozart's 40th and 41st symphonies,
A spot of The Jam (all Mod Cons and Setting Sons),
Marshall Crenshaw,
The White Album and Revolver,
40 licks,
Boz Scaggs- Silk Degrees,
Never Mind The Bollocks (first time in 5 yrs or so),
Boomtown Rats- Tonic For The Troops,
Blondie - Eat to the beat,
Bat For Lashes- Two Suns,
N.E.R.D. -Fly or Die,
Cat Stevens- Tea for the Tillerman (first time ever, top class.),
Cat stevens Greatest hits,
And the last one this morning was The Gift-the Jam.

Best, Paul

Scotty, just had a look at your profile to see your system and now i'm as sick as a dog (as they say, though idon't know why).

Still, i do enjoy mine an awful lot so until i'm richer.....

Hi guys,
I'm another pretty anti-Sat night talent-show/karaoke contest stuff. Doesn't do it for me AT ALL.
The thing is, its ONLY pop music & as such is targeted at people FAR younger than I, hence most of it is not much more than Whitney/Mariah/Boyzone clones, none of which is aimed at 40+ year old hifi geeks/music snobs like us lot.
They are popularity contests, not genuine talent contests. There MAY be a few artists that come out of these shows to cross over into more adult orientated music, but thats not really the aim.
IIRC Mr Cowell doesn't hold on to very many of the shows winners more than a year or so which surely says something.
Manufactured pop has existed for decades. The Monkees back in the 60's, even Motown stuff was the product of a factory process & obviously the SAW stuff as well.
Its only pop. Its not meant to be musically brilliant or long lasting.
When I was at school, we used to get told off for sniggering at the remedial kids when it was their turn to do their bit on stage. The first few episodes of X-Factor seems to be there to titillate viewers to ridicule the next tone-deaf/can't dance/fame-hunting dead beat. Which IIRC what was expected to happen when SoBo walked on stage.
Matt.

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Originally posted by mongo:
It's very difficult to state favourites so i'll tell what i've listened to most recently;

The Brandenburg concertos, very frequently,
Prefab Sprout,
Moody Blues ( new to me through this forum and fab),
Mozart's 40th and 41st symphonies,
A spot of The Jam (all Mod Cons and Setting Sons),
Marshall Crenshaw,
The White Album and Revolver,
40 licks,
Boz Scaggs- Silk Degrees,
Never Mind The Bollocks (first time in 5 yrs or so),
Boomtown Rats- Tonic For The Troops,
Blondie - Eat to the beat,
Bat For Lashes- Two Suns,
N.E.R.D. -Fly or Die,
Cat Stevens- Tea for the Tillerman (first time ever, top class.),
Cat stevens Greatest hits,
And the last one this morning was The Gift-the Jam.

Best, Paul

Oh well, perhaps you're not all bad...

Paul,

I see you are into classical....what would you recommend for me to try ? I have 1812 overture and love the passion and sheer slam and exitement produced by it but find other classical music a tad mundane. CHECK OUT the pineapple thiefs album - 3,000 DAYS its brill and at under a tenner from Amazon its excellent value.
Regards, Scotty

Just to make it perfectly clear i DONT watch the x-factor or any other talent show (honest) i just appreciate good music / vocals.

original from Tonym;

Oh well, perhaps you're not all bad...[/QUOTE]

Why thank you. It's quite a pleasant feeling to be rehabilitated.

Hi Scotty. I'm only just getting into Classical and i've been asking the forum for advice of late.

For my own very limited knowledge I have found Bach's Brandenburg Concertos (Pinnock- AVIE and Pinnock with the English Concert) to be superb, but it took me very many proper listens to understand what the fuss was about. Now though they are my most worn out cd's.

Also the many Bach harpsichord concertos i'm currently discovering are a revelation.

I also have found a bit of Mozart which i consider fabulous;
The symphonies 40 and 41, I have them on Linn's SACD which appears to me to be a fine recording and performance.

There are also a few shorter works called Divertimenti which i have on aBrilliant Classics cd. These are fast and full of zest, like pop songs from the classical rolls. (though no doubt i'll be shot by purists for that remark)

I also have a few more of Mozart's concertos (flute, horn, violin) and i have yet to find work of his that i don't enjoy (always excepting opera, of course)

It's therefore odd that the overture to Figaro is my all time favourite LOUD piece of music.

A feeble selection i know, but i'm a beginner.

All i can say is that i am delighted with my self that i persevered when i first decided to try the classical business. I expect plenty more years of discovery.

Definately worth the effort. Once you take off....

Also just bought 3000 days from ebay. I'll let you know what i think.

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Originally posted by Diccus62:

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Originally posted by mongo:
Left for many years came back by accident and got stuck here. Place needs nuked and started again from scratch.
I prefer the south coast and am back off there in april.

When you have nuked it can you leave our fine cathedral and my family, oh and Newcastle is rather a nice city, oh and Northumberland is quite gorgeous in parts.

Do you live in Peterlee?

Hi. No I don't. If you refer to York then my apologies. Lived there for three yrs and i do love the place still. As for the Northumberland countryside and castles and whatnot again i agree, in the summer beautiful indeed. Newcastle city centre... there every week at least. Just a city...plenty of them around really.

I should not have damned the whole North East in a single statement, as i refer to my own home town only (and similar ghettos). It is packed to the rafters with chav trash and police sirens and on second thoughts a nuke would be too quick and clean.

I've changed my location too. Please be not too offended.

Paul

I won't.... Chavs have feelings too

Indeed they may. But not if they all explode.

So where do you live then?

Jarrow. Or Satan's arse if you prefer.

Oh, I see

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Originally posted by mongo:
Jarrow. Or Satan's arse if you prefer.

.....Shouldn't that be Jarra ....meanwhile back at Susan Boyle

....Ok so I wouldn't know one good singer from another of the type that sings Susan Boyle style material (ie Kathryn Jenkins (?)) All opera singers sound the same (technically good) to my obviously uncultured ears. So how on earth classical reviewers can rate various concerts I haven't a clue .....I could tell you if a guitarist hit a bum note or a drummer missed his cue ...but ....

Where the hell am I going with this? ...oh I remember ....surely there are 100's (1000's?) of MOR albums out there already by female singers who are probably technically far better than Susan? (even if I couldn't tell!) she got unbelievable media exposure for (at times) all the wrong reasons .....

..I pity the poor lasses stranded in the CD bargain bins all over the land who have never been heard by Great Britain's unwashed.

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Originally posted by mongo:
Hello again Scotty.

My set up is nait 5, Cd5, And Rega RS1's in a small room. I'll be adding a flatcap as soon as i can find one.

It's very difficult to state favourites so i'll tell what i've listened to most recently;

The Brandenburg concertos, very frequently,
Prefab Sprout,
Moody Blues ( new to me through this forum and fab),
Mozart's 40th and 41st symphonies,
A spot of The Jam (all Mod Cons and Setting Sons),
Marshall Crenshaw,
The White Album and Revolver,
40 licks,
Boz Scaggs- Silk Degrees,
Never Mind The Bollocks (first time in 5 yrs or so),
Boomtown Rats- Tonic For The Troops,
Blondie - Eat to the beat,
Bat For Lashes- Two Suns,
N.E.R.D. -Fly or Die,
Cat Stevens- Tea for the Tillerman (first time ever, top class.),
Cat stevens Greatest hits,
And the last one this morning was The Gift-the Jam.

Best, Paul

Wow - 70's/ 80's time warp or what!!

Showing your age Mongo

I think Susan Boyle has a good voice.

However, I would sooner peel my eyeballs than watch any reality TV. The fact that the occasional decent performer surfaces from the ocean of banality is no excuse for the whole damn "Jedward" Cowell circus.

If folk enjoy the shows, good luck. I still like the idea that real talent will find it's way through airplay, gigs and word of mouth helped by the web.

Scotty,

Re-your classical request try some more overtures if you are looking for drama.

Berlioz Le Carnival Romain or Dvorak's Carnival Overture. These usually appear as fillers for other works but there are several complete discs of Beethoven or Rossini overtures - great fun.

Joe

Thanks for the suggestions guys i will do me research and let you know what i buy.

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Wow - 70's/ 80's time warp or what!!

Showing your age Mongo

Some 1720's in there too. My old bones are certainly beginning to feel the toll.