Hydra & Spur
Posted by: GraemeH on 01 September 2010
My Hydra was a 1 into 4 when I had the 135's but since aquiring a 300 one head has been unused. For neatness and to assuage the niggle of doubt I changed it for a 3 headed Hydra at the weekend. This is definitely the thing to do as it has brought a subtle but noticeable lift in clarity - Don't ask me why but it is better.
Yesterday a 10mm spur went in to a single switchless socket....I really should have made this £35 upgrade years ago!
G
PS Posted this in 'Padded Cell in error
Yesterday a 10mm spur went in to a single switchless socket....I really should have made this £35 upgrade years ago!
G
PS Posted this in 'Padded Cell in error
Posted on: 01 September 2010 by hungryhalibut
At some point you might want to add a separate consumer unit for the hifi. Another cheap upgrade and well worthwhile. I currently have a spare hydra head since selling the subwoofer and have not experienced any negative effects. The hydra has a 5m tail that runs under the carpet, and I can't bear the disruption in changing it.
Nigel
Nigel
Posted on: 01 September 2010 by GraemeH
quote:Originally posted by hungryhalibut:
At some point you might want to add a separate consumer unit for the hifi. Another cheap upgrade and well worthwhile. I currently have a spare hydra head since selling the subwoofer and have not experienced any negative effects. The hydra has a 5m tail that runs under the carpet, and I can't bear the disruption in changing it.
Nigel
For me Nigel the change to a correctly headed hydra was noticeable but that may be just my system.....ears....mind!
Posted on: 01 September 2010 by David S Patterson
Graeme, dont doubt you got an improvement, but it could be simply from the push pulling of the new connections and the cleaning effect.
i am in the final stage of my new install.Mem fuse box next to system , 7 boxes for active system all individually tripped.Will it be anybetter who knows.New carpet down thurs then rebuild system.
David
i am in the final stage of my new install.Mem fuse box next to system , 7 boxes for active system all individually tripped.Will it be anybetter who knows.New carpet down thurs then rebuild system.
David
Posted on: 01 September 2010 by GraemeH
Hi David - Lots of push-pulling had happened recently before changing Hydra's due to rebuilding and repositioning with the arrival of the 300.....More likely it's my mind!
Anyway, you sound waaaaay in advance of me!
Best
Graeme
Anyway, you sound waaaaay in advance of me!
Best
Graeme
Posted on: 02 September 2010 by David S Patterson
Hi Graeme, glad you went for 10mm, i felt it a worthwhile improvement over 6mm.in the end i went for 16mm, a bugger to work with .I hope this latest install will be my last.Each component is linked via its naim power cord to its own trip.I was tired of Hicaps and supercaps tripping the whole system on switch on.
regds
david
regds
david
Posted on: 02 September 2010 by James L
Guys
Can you please explaim 6mm, 10mm etc?
Is this all 3 conductors added togther?
Over here we use Xmmsq. Typical cable is 2.5mmsq or 4mmsq (per conductor).
Can you please explaim 6mm, 10mm etc?
Is this all 3 conductors added togther?
Over here we use Xmmsq. Typical cable is 2.5mmsq or 4mmsq (per conductor).
Posted on: 03 September 2010 by David S Patterson
Hi James, sorry we missed the mmsq out.Yeh same typical ring mains here is 2.5mmsq and 4mmsq and 6mmsq for cooker,shower,hot tub!!etc
the 6mm talked about is cable size used for most electric cooker here. if going to all the trouble of a spur, i recommend a min of 10mmsq.
i have moved house seven times now and have put a spur into every property.Only once did i do multiple spurs and found it a total waste of time and a backward step (only my opinion btw before i get jumped on)
A well respected Naim dealer asked me to look upon a spur as an arial for rfi , the more spurs the bigger the arial and the more chance of picking up rfi and other air borne interference.
david
the 6mm talked about is cable size used for most electric cooker here. if going to all the trouble of a spur, i recommend a min of 10mmsq.
i have moved house seven times now and have put a spur into every property.Only once did i do multiple spurs and found it a total waste of time and a backward step (only my opinion btw before i get jumped on)
A well respected Naim dealer asked me to look upon a spur as an arial for rfi , the more spurs the bigger the arial and the more chance of picking up rfi and other air borne interference.
david
Posted on: 03 September 2010 by GraemeH
I can safely say, 4 days in and it's sounding sublime!
Posted on: 04 September 2010 by ray davis
volts, amps, earth loop. The three most essential tests on any electrical supply. Graeme s separate consumer unit is the perfect way to go, what a great point of isolation.
Posted on: 16 September 2010 by ray davis
was looking at the hydra , is there any particular make you should go for?
Posted on: 16 September 2010 by GraemeH
quote:Originally posted by ray davis:
was looking at the hydra , is there any particular make you should go for?
A 'Grahams' Hydra is what you are after.
Best
Graeme
Posted on: 16 September 2010 by ray davis
Cheers Graeme, is it worth getting a spare out of the hydra for future use? Or just get what you need jobbie ?
Posted on: 16 September 2010 by Tony Lockhart
Just buy what you need, There's a ready market for the genuine article on the secondhand markets.
Tony
Tony
Posted on: 16 September 2010 by hungryhalibut
The Grahams hydra is very very good, and great value, even though it looks like something I imagine you might buy from Ann Summers. Not that I have ever bought anything from there, you understand!
Nigel
Nigel
Posted on: 16 September 2010 by IWC Doppel
I have been very pleased with a fully revised mains install with separate lines for each piece of equipment. I run 13 32A lines on a separate board (Home cinema and CD use) all mains cables to equipment are no less than 6mm sq
Posted on: 17 September 2010 by David S Patterson
My install is now a couple of weeks in.It consists of incoming supply split ,to existing consumer unit and to Mem 2000 which is situated adjacent to my system.Alltrips are 16A.Each naim power cord is connected to the Mem via its own trip. the MEM becomes the hydra head in effect.
All my naim cords are original and equal length.This install has brought a deathly silence to my transformers, quite amazing, background hiss which is virtually non existant in my system (due to the amazing 362) is a tad better still, and musical distortion (which you dont realise is there until reduced is better.
The secret is the simplicity.
Oh and it saves a walk whenever you switch on the PSs.i think this is as far as you can take a good supply in this country.
david
All my naim cords are original and equal length.This install has brought a deathly silence to my transformers, quite amazing, background hiss which is virtually non existant in my system (due to the amazing 362) is a tad better still, and musical distortion (which you dont realise is there until reduced is better.
The secret is the simplicity.
Oh and it saves a walk whenever you switch on the PSs.i think this is as far as you can take a good supply in this country.
david
Posted on: 17 September 2010 by ray davis
if you really wanted to know just how good your incoming supply is. When you see an Electricity Supplier van for your area ask what type of mains cable is in the ground.
CONSAC.......absolutely bloody awful very unreliable. Worst stuff ever made, really unreliable. All the prtection you put in if the neutral goes you got problems everything electrical in your house can be fried. With the company i worked for i was told they get a contractor in to repair everything. When i said i have a few quids worth of hifi they said the contractor will repair it .
STA paperlead..... pretty good dtuff since its been in the ground in some places for over 60 plus years. Fault history not to bad.
WAVECON.... been going in the ground about 17 ish years, good with literally no bad fault history.
CONSAC.......absolutely bloody awful very unreliable. Worst stuff ever made, really unreliable. All the prtection you put in if the neutral goes you got problems everything electrical in your house can be fried. With the company i worked for i was told they get a contractor in to repair everything. When i said i have a few quids worth of hifi they said the contractor will repair it .
STA paperlead..... pretty good dtuff since its been in the ground in some places for over 60 plus years. Fault history not to bad.
WAVECON.... been going in the ground about 17 ish years, good with literally no bad fault history.