252

I recently changed from an 82 to a 252 and the difference was very noticeable. I imagine the difference between 282 and 252 would be very noticeable too.

If you're already running a CDX2/XPS2/282 etc. (New kit) you've obviously got a severe case of Upgraditis...

I suggest you see your doctor immediately to prevent further bleeding from your wallet

Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......

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Yesterday I had a home demo with a CDS3.
My system is CDX2/XPS2/282/SC2/250mk2/Mezzo and it sounds very good.

The CDS3 sounded more natural and analog. It's a big improvement over the CDX2.

O.K. Time for upgrade!

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Blimey, you don't waste much time do you?

Steve B

Stu

I want a CDS3, too. I heard it with Allae, Electra /abt. UKP 4.000/, and Mezzo. I was very impressed by the last combo.

I have upgraded the whole system at the beginning of the year. The problem is to sell new kit with less loss. I don't want to lose more than 15-20% of the new price. I think it's easier to sell the 282. That’s why I put it on ebay today.

Yes, you are right. CDS3 and 252 goes together. But I'm not sure, if I can sell my CDP quickly. When 282 is off I'll start immediately with the sale of the CDX2.

Emil

I heard it with Allae, Electra /abt. UKP 4.000/, and Mezzo.

Sorry, it wasn't Allae, it was Intro 2.

Emil,

First things first, do you have the XPS Burndy or the S-XPS Burndy Cable?
If you don't have the S-XPS Burndy, exchange this with your dealer "immediately", the difference between the old one and the new one is Night & Day!!!

Next, go to the Naim UK website and click on Products, then click on Suggested Systems, then click on Suggested System 3, then look carefully at the order of the "Recommended Upgrades" as specified by Naim Audio.

Follow the order of upgrades, exactly as specified by Naim.

XPS-Burndy Cable
Then CDS3 Next
Then NAC 252 Next
Etc.

I have had several customers (against my best advice), who upgraded to the Preamplifier before ungrading to the CD Player First.
Both of them wanted to return the NAC 252 and go back to the NAC 282 because they were so unhappy...
The NAC 252 is to revealing for the CDX2 & XPS2.
It puts the system out of balance.
I convinced them to put a CDS3 in front of the NAC 252 and they are both now, very, very happy.

Hope this Helps.

Best Regards

Rob
Real Hi-Fi
Calgary

Rob

Interesting comments.

I believe that my XPS2 came with the new S-Burndy. It's black.

The German distributor /www.naim-audio.de/ recommends different systems:

System 4: CDX2/XPS2/282/SC/250 what I have now
System 5: CDX2/XPS2/252/300

I'm convinced that system 4 is more balanced with the SC than with the hi-cap.

What about system 5?

Emil

Rob,

How much of a difference does the new burndy make on a CDS2/XPS1? I am saving for a 552 (and a car, Arun!) as it absolutely rocks in my system, and then, maybe *several* years down the road I might spring for the "CD555" if such a thing ever exists. But in the mean time I am curious about the benefits of the new burndy with a standard CDS2.

dave

S-XPS Burndy

Reading some previous posts about the new Burndy I'm beginning to doubt that mine is a S-XPS Burndy.

My XPS2 arrived on 01.03.2003. It's black and I found NA XPS 03 on it. The number probably shoes who made it at the factory. Is this a Super XPS Burndy?

Can someone tell me what's the difference in the design between the black and the super Burndy?

Thanks

Emil

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How much of a difference does the new burndy make on a CDS2/XPS1?

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Dave

I've tried this on mine. I condider it to be a great VFM no-brainer improvement. It's bigger to my ears than the old grey-snaic to black-snaic change. If you're keeping your CDSII/XPS for some time to come you really must do the new burndy.

'That car you bought a few years back worn out already?

best

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

Emil,

new ones say S-XPS instead of XPS on the cable.

Looks like you have an old one.

cheers, Martin

E-mail:- MartinPayne at Dial.Pipex.com

Yes, Martin!

I noticed that five days ago. On the next day a nice guy from Salisbury brought to me a SXPS.

A trip to Sofia for a cable only!


His second job was to install an active naim system. Guess which one...

Emil

David

Adding the S-XPS Burndy to the CDS2 & XPS will simply transform the sound-quality of your system.
I guarantee you, this new cable will blow your mind.
Musically things will make much more sense, the change in timing is awesome, not to mention hearing lots of extra details which were hopelessly lost in the noise-floor, on the old cable.

Naim have improved the grounding (less noise).

It's also far more flexible.

Cheers Rob

Jean-Luc has none in stock until mid July...

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The NAC 252 is to revealing for the CDX2 & XPS2.

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Interesting that Naim Demo'ed the 552/500/NBL combo through most of 2002 with the CDX2/XPS2 before the CDS3 was available. This doesn't suggest to me that the CDX2/XPS2 would be shown up by a good preamp.

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It's also far more flexible.

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Well mine aint.

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It's black and I found NA XPS 03 on it.

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Mine has 'SXPS 03' on it.

Well, the 252 arrived on Thursday. Now the system is CDX2/XPS2/252/SC2/250mk2/Mezzo Utopia.

First of all I heard a bass extension, more weight and more punch. But the most important thing was that the sound became natural. The new preamp showed me the difference between the live performance and the sound of my former configuration. What a pleasure! Everything sounds so real! What kind of natural voices! I realised that till now I was listening to something else, but not the real voice.

The downside is that I’m thinking now what could it be with its brother - the 300? And its sister - the CDS3?

The Mezzo Utopia is 250 Watt on 4 ohms. Specialists say it's an easy to drive speaker. I'm not sure. I just wonder what could do here better: 300 or CDS3.

I know I'll do both one day. Not today! If you were me what would you do first?

Yes, I know there is more to come. SC2, SXPS Burndy and the home made all-naim hydra are in week 3.

Emil

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Originally posted by RAM:
David

Adding the S-XPS Burndy to the CDS2 & XPS will simply transform the sound-quality of your system.
I guarantee you, this new cable will blow your mind.
Musically things will make much more sense, the change in timing is awesome, not to mention hearing lots of extra details which were hopelessly lost in the noise-floor, on the old cable.

Naim have improved the grounding (less noise).

It's also far more flexible.

Cheers Rob

Jean-Luc has none in stock until mid July...

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I agree with this, although the biggest improvement (say 80%) came with the XPS2 with the S-Burndy giving the rest. My CDS2 sounds aboslutely phenomenal. Wonder what the CDS3 is like?

Rob and Dev,

Thanks for the comments on the new burndy/XPS2. It should be interesting what Don Braid has to say about the new burndy when he gets his. I'm temted to upgrade, but I'm saving for a 552, a used car, and a Panasonic AG DVX100 video camera. How much of an improvement is the XPS2 in terms of Hicap points (I measure this as the effect of a hicap on a 102/180)?

Dave

If you've gone 282 to 282 and are thinking off a 300 then you must have a bad case of upgraditus.

So CDS3/552/500 in whatever order you decide may make more economic sense.

To err is human; to really foul it up requires a computer.

Emil

I agree with your German distributor. The Mezzos need the power (they're not that easy to drive). Also I have a colleague who has aCDX2/552/300/SBLs and it is just magic. I don't believe your CDX2/XPS2 will suffer for being behind a 252. Therefore the 300 is the next step, unless you can afford a 500 (or find one 2nd hand).

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Frank,

300 is on order.

Does anybody compared new 250 to 300 in a similar system?

Emil

Sorry for my grammar.

I ment ,, did anybody compare..........