LS3/5a's
Posted by: Arthur Bye on 18 May 2002
Posted on: 19 May 2002 by silklee
quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Bye:
Didn't know there was a club. Good stuff.
http://www.ls35a.com/
Arthur Bye
so anyone tried the naim cdp with the ls3/5a?
Posted on: 21 May 2002 by Mick P
Vuk
Thank you for confirming that Kans really do honk. I think they look awful and sound even worse.
I am amazed at their semi cult status.
Just proves that you can fool some of the people some of the time.
Regards
Mick
Thank you for confirming that Kans really do honk. I think they look awful and sound even worse.
I am amazed at their semi cult status.
Just proves that you can fool some of the people some of the time.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 21 May 2002 by Thorsten
Dear tof2001
I used to use Harbeth HL3PES on my naim-amps (102/180 and the necessary small expensive boxes). I do not know Kans though. But I can tell you that the HL3PES (just put that crappy name into paste©) sound pretty analytical, do give an immense sense of the room and are simply marvellous for listening to any music with less than ten musicians. Better with acoustics than with electronics. They are damn hard to please, and pretty thirsty once you raise the volume. However, it should not surprise you that I would almost always prefer my SBLs over the HL3PES. Though the SBLs are inferior in the discplines I mentioned above, the HL3PES are far less fun than SBLs. No surprise there, I guess. I rather think of tools than instruments when I think of the HL3PES. I hope you get the meaning.
I even used to use the x-tender with the HL3PES which turned out to be a complete failure. Everything that's nice about the HL3PES is sacrificed for more bass. Fortunately I did not spend any money on the x-tenders.
Err, and no, the HL3PES do not honk. Never. Not even at new year's eve. It's all about control. At least they do not do what I think people refer to when they write honk. Sorry guys, English is not my native language, I need more space than you to describe what I hear. Honk or not to Honk. Yes, that's a great way to put it. Just as "drives 'em like a bitch". I think hifi magazines could get along with half of their pages if they were able to sum it up like some of you are.
[This message was edited by Thorsten on TUESDAY 21 May 2002 at 12:51.]
[This message was edited by Thorsten on TUESDAY 21 May 2002 at 12:51.]
I used to use Harbeth HL3PES on my naim-amps (102/180 and the necessary small expensive boxes). I do not know Kans though. But I can tell you that the HL3PES (just put that crappy name into paste©) sound pretty analytical, do give an immense sense of the room and are simply marvellous for listening to any music with less than ten musicians. Better with acoustics than with electronics. They are damn hard to please, and pretty thirsty once you raise the volume. However, it should not surprise you that I would almost always prefer my SBLs over the HL3PES. Though the SBLs are inferior in the discplines I mentioned above, the HL3PES are far less fun than SBLs. No surprise there, I guess. I rather think of tools than instruments when I think of the HL3PES. I hope you get the meaning.
I even used to use the x-tender with the HL3PES which turned out to be a complete failure. Everything that's nice about the HL3PES is sacrificed for more bass. Fortunately I did not spend any money on the x-tenders.
Err, and no, the HL3PES do not honk. Never. Not even at new year's eve. It's all about control. At least they do not do what I think people refer to when they write honk. Sorry guys, English is not my native language, I need more space than you to describe what I hear. Honk or not to Honk. Yes, that's a great way to put it. Just as "drives 'em like a bitch". I think hifi magazines could get along with half of their pages if they were able to sum it up like some of you are.
[This message was edited by Thorsten on TUESDAY 21 May 2002 at 12:51.]
[This message was edited by Thorsten on TUESDAY 21 May 2002 at 12:51.]
Posted on: 21 May 2002 by Tony L
quote:
Thank you for confirming that Kans really do honk.
Absolutely. Vuk is obviously correct as he has at least half an hours experience with the speakers - those of us who have used them for over 15 years in many different systems and rooms really don't have a clue.
Tony.
Posted on: 21 May 2002 by Dev B
Mick
With respect, you are wrong. I can only assume you have heard them when they have been incorrectly installed
My main speakers are SBL's but I have owned three pairs of Kans and have occasionally swapped them around for fun.
Although Kans (or Isobariks) are not as good as the SBL, I would say that when Kans are working as they should they are superb speakers. I have had people hear my system with Kans and they are amazed at the sounds coming from the tiny boxes.
regards
Dev
quote:
Thank you for confirming that Kans really do honk. I think they look awful and sound even worse.
With respect, you are wrong. I can only assume you have heard them when they have been incorrectly installed
My main speakers are SBL's but I have owned three pairs of Kans and have occasionally swapped them around for fun.
Although Kans (or Isobariks) are not as good as the SBL, I would say that when Kans are working as they should they are superb speakers. I have had people hear my system with Kans and they are amazed at the sounds coming from the tiny boxes.
regards
Dev
Posted on: 21 May 2002 by Justin
"Absolutely. Vuk is obviously correct as he has at least half an hours experience with the speakers - those of us who have used them for over 15 years in many different systems and rooms really don't have a clue."
precious
Judd
precious
Judd
Posted on: 22 May 2002 by Keith Mattox
Has anyone had a listen to Spendor's current equivalent to the LS3/5a? They did receive a great, if odd, review in Listener 'bout 6 months ago.
Cheers
Keith.
Cheers
Keith.
Posted on: 22 May 2002 by MrI
I posted some time ago about my experiences with the Spendor 3/5. I have always liked the things that small sealed boxes do well and have owned Linn Index, Rogers LS3/5a and auditioned Kans at home. After demoing a ton of speakers, I bought the 3/5 because they are absolutely magical with my cd5/112/flat2/150. The reviewer in Listener is correct. Midrange to die for, beautiful upper end with a tight and fast bass to 80 Hz. They compare very favorable to the Rogers without the midbass hump. Both are excellent. My speaker position is free space and the Kans were terrible, even on Kan stands (but no back wall). 3/5 are probably out for heavy rock (ok for Steely Dan), but still manage to get out the tunes in electronica like St. Germain. Correctly set up on very heavy stands, the 3/5 are worth trying. I've changed from analyzing the sound to enjoying the performance.
Posted on: 30 May 2002 by JohanR
In 1978 I bought my first "HiFi" system. It was Chartwell LS3/5a:s, a crap Technics receiver and a even more crap ERA record player. A true source last system of those times!
In about 1986 I sold the LS3/5a:s along to my brother. This last weekend I helped him move to a new flat and those little babies were standing on the floor to be thrown away. "Oh no!" I yelled and grabbed them into my arms.
Now, how do they sound in a modern CDSii/LP12/Lingo/Circus/Ekos/Arkiv B/82/HiCap/180 system?
Not that bad. To my surprise they PRaT quite well, at least through most of its range. The uppermost treble never seem to go along with the rest of the music and lower bass loose it when too much is asked of them. But for most parts its easy to follow how the music is playing. And the PRaT they do I will describe as "natural", they are neither slow nor fast.
They are very revealing of the software, most rock/pop recordings of the last 20 years sounds loathsome. My guess they are the ones mixed on those dreadful Yamaha NS 10:s! Strangely enough older pop recordings sounds OK.
Dynamics always sound a bit compressed.
Are they better than my Intro II:s? No. Worse? No. They are just different. Very different.
Not bad forsomething that are designed (I believe) in the 1960:s and manufactured 25 years ago!
JohanR
In about 1986 I sold the LS3/5a:s along to my brother. This last weekend I helped him move to a new flat and those little babies were standing on the floor to be thrown away. "Oh no!" I yelled and grabbed them into my arms.
Now, how do they sound in a modern CDSii/LP12/Lingo/Circus/Ekos/Arkiv B/82/HiCap/180 system?
Not that bad. To my surprise they PRaT quite well, at least through most of its range. The uppermost treble never seem to go along with the rest of the music and lower bass loose it when too much is asked of them. But for most parts its easy to follow how the music is playing. And the PRaT they do I will describe as "natural", they are neither slow nor fast.
They are very revealing of the software, most rock/pop recordings of the last 20 years sounds loathsome. My guess they are the ones mixed on those dreadful Yamaha NS 10:s! Strangely enough older pop recordings sounds OK.
Dynamics always sound a bit compressed.
Are they better than my Intro II:s? No. Worse? No. They are just different. Very different.
Not bad forsomething that are designed (I believe) in the 1960:s and manufactured 25 years ago!
JohanR