New US Travel restrictions re Li-IoN batteries
Posted by: Derek Wright on 01 January 2008
Posted on: 01 January 2008 by joe90
Thank heavens that loophole has been closed.
I feel safer already.
I feel safer already.
Posted on: 02 January 2008 by NaimDropper
These are quite dangerous if they catch fire, but it is hard to make them do so.
And the TSA probably doesn't have the Class D extinguishers to handle the metal fire. Burning lithium can burn through a lot of materials, it is quite hot.
FedEx apparently lost an airplane due to someone running a forklift through a large box of Li-based batteries that caught fire once loaded in the hold. They have been quite wary since. Can't blame them.
I'm sure there will be the usual load of confusion and mis-information on all types of batteries including LiMnO2 types (disposable) such as coin cells, CR123As, etc.
Nothing like more confusing rules and regulations to make us "safe".
David
And the TSA probably doesn't have the Class D extinguishers to handle the metal fire. Burning lithium can burn through a lot of materials, it is quite hot.
FedEx apparently lost an airplane due to someone running a forklift through a large box of Li-based batteries that caught fire once loaded in the hold. They have been quite wary since. Can't blame them.
I'm sure there will be the usual load of confusion and mis-information on all types of batteries including LiMnO2 types (disposable) such as coin cells, CR123As, etc.
Nothing like more confusing rules and regulations to make us "safe".
David
Posted on: 05 January 2008 by Duncan Fullerton
Well the TSA may have made the skies safer but I fear for the English language in their hands. "Palletized" ... WTF?? "A pallet loaded with batteries" maybe or "large quantities of batteries on a pallet" or any other number of ways of saying it without inventing non-words.
Participlizing nouns is a particularly heinous crime against the language IMHO!
Duncan
Participlizing nouns is a particularly heinous crime against the language IMHO!

Duncan
Posted on: 05 January 2008 by NaimDropper
That is a common term in the manufacturing and shipping world, at least in the USA.
Though it is yet another of the thousands of made-up words, the meaning of this one should be abundantly clear, especially in context of shipping. And clear meaning with brief words makes for efficient operations in a specialized area, don't you think? Having some poor shipping clerk write "A large quantity of batteries or individual cells securely and appropriately contained on or within the contents and confines of a pallet intended for light transport aboard a suitable conveyance" seems less efficient than saying "palletized".
Note that the spelling dictionary in Microsoft Word recognizes this as spelled correctly. We're all doomed.
I think you'll have to go further than the TSA to find all the crimes against humanity (Oh, I mean your English language!).
Would it be comforting to know that, as your burning airplane was plummeting to the ground, the TSA was still in deep discussion to make certain the English language had not been further violated?
One of my least favorite made up words is to use "output" as both noun and verb. Would that be "Verbizing"? And I find that newer dictionaries are defining it both ways now.
Yes, I have nothing better to do right now. I’m off to listen to some Level 42 to see if I can cover the bass part from domfjbrown’s challenge.
David
Though it is yet another of the thousands of made-up words, the meaning of this one should be abundantly clear, especially in context of shipping. And clear meaning with brief words makes for efficient operations in a specialized area, don't you think? Having some poor shipping clerk write "A large quantity of batteries or individual cells securely and appropriately contained on or within the contents and confines of a pallet intended for light transport aboard a suitable conveyance" seems less efficient than saying "palletized".
Note that the spelling dictionary in Microsoft Word recognizes this as spelled correctly. We're all doomed.
I think you'll have to go further than the TSA to find all the crimes against humanity (Oh, I mean your English language!).
Would it be comforting to know that, as your burning airplane was plummeting to the ground, the TSA was still in deep discussion to make certain the English language had not been further violated?
One of my least favorite made up words is to use "output" as both noun and verb. Would that be "Verbizing"? And I find that newer dictionaries are defining it both ways now.
Yes, I have nothing better to do right now. I’m off to listen to some Level 42 to see if I can cover the bass part from domfjbrown’s challenge.
David
Posted on: 06 January 2008 by KenM
David,
Nicely put. Some people just don't regard the purpose of language as communication. They want to preserve it, frozen in time while they write huffy letters to The Times. But these are usually signed "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" or someting similar. They forget that the English language has never stopped evolving to meet the demands of the times. Long may it continue to do so.
Ken
Nicely put. Some people just don't regard the purpose of language as communication. They want to preserve it, frozen in time while they write huffy letters to The Times. But these are usually signed "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" or someting similar. They forget that the English language has never stopped evolving to meet the demands of the times. Long may it continue to do so.
Ken