Jobs does it again

It's incredibly expensive though - $600 for the 8GB model. Won't be in Europe until the end of the year.

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Originally posted by Kevin-W:
It's incredibly expensive though - $600 for the 8GB model. Won't be in Europe until the end of the year.

It's also a very sexy looking bit of kit. Plenty of people around who would drop £300+ on a phone. I think I want one...

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I think you will find thats 600 bucks plus you are tied into 2 years with Singular (American Phone Company) so very expensive.

Looks very good though, I like the touch screen technology, quite radical and from a technology they purchased last year, there was a demo of it with a block interacting with blobs on a screen, very cool.

The appleTV interests me more, the ability to pick music on your TV to play out the hifi wirelessly is a good one, but there are some restrictions to it I am concerned about.

Not cheap but certainly looks impressive. It will be nice to have a phone that will sync really well with ical (in particular with multiple calendars) and implement html e-mail. I was a little dubious about the touch screen, but the demos on the apple website look rather clever. At the very least this ought to provide a kick to mobile phone manufacturers who badly need it in certain regards.

I wonder how much the European delay is down to implementing 3G - since without it will not be competitive in a key regard (and I don't fancy trying google maps at GSM speeds). Still, if it had that, I'd happily chuck my e61 away for it.


regards, Tam

I've a great way to save money on these things. Buy a cheap mobile phone,have a note pad,pencil and use a computer.

Steve Jobs shaped the world we live in now, and it looks as if he'll shape the world we will know in 10 years time too. And all this time "The Copyist" is distracted by the PS2/3 market.
I know it isn't sensible to jump in at the start, but these things are the antiques/museum pieces of the future.


These are exciting times and we should embrace this technology. You don't want to be the poor sods now who are 40 years old who have never known how to switch on a computer, and yes, there are lots of them. If they left the building site they would be unemployable.
I remember once I had someone for a week on work experience, and one thing I need to show them was how to use a fax machine!! They were terrified of it!!

On the contrary. Apart from the i-pod Job's products are destined to ultimately be the Betamax of their day.

You mean like the personal computer? Read the history Bob.

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Originally posted by bob mccluckie:
On the contrary. Apart from the i-pod Job's products are destined to ultimately be the Betamax of their day.

Mmmm... are you sure?

Leaving out the fact that machines and platforms tend towards obsolescence as the demands of software grow ever larger; and that certain forms of media (floppy disks for example) will eventually die out, I think you're talking out of your harris.

Apple may have a minute share of the computing market, but those who do use Macs tend to be:

1. Fanatically loyal (they've been paying premium prices for years, remember)
2. Incredibly influential

The demise of Apple has been predicted for years, but it's never happened and is unlikely to happen. Also, many of the innovations [not all of them Apple's own] the company has punted out have since become part of the mainstream.

Any idea what operating system it runs? I wonder if its OSX - same as Mac.

I use an HP 'all in one' PDA/Phone/GPS running Windows Mobile. It's really handy having everything in one device. Being able to dial any contact from the Outlook database is really handy. Or even navigating to an address in the address book without having to type anything in.

The real down side is that you look like you're talking into a calculator

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Originally posted by Graham Russell:
Any idea what operating system it runs? I wonder if its OSX - same as Mac.

The real down side is that you look like you're talking into a calculator

Yes, it is running OS X, and now you will look like you are listening to an iPod without headphones, but who cares this will be the real "I WANT ONE NOW" product.

Just so long as they keep away from games consoles they will be fine.

Jono

A few years ago I noticed an increase in nutters walking the streets talking to themselves. It was later that I was introduced to Bluetooth headsets myself.

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many of the innovations [not all of them Apple's own] the company has punted out have since become part of the mainstream.

erm like the Newton perhaps!
the most important word in your whole post was 'minute'.
And in what way are Apple users 'incredibly influential'?

Its fair to say p[eople have being a paying a premium for apple products because in general they are premium products compared to the compitition, just check out the contents of a macpro:

www.apple.com/macpro

Nothing on the market comes close, and just like buying naim some people want better than average build quality.

Bob, to suggest apple has not been influetial is just silly. The original iMac spawned a miryiad of products made from blue plastics, and there is hundreds of iPod wannabes. Yes Creative may have released a brick a year before but apple did it right, just as they appear to be doing with mobiles.

I can only speak from my expereince with various mobiles where apart from anything else the confirm or back button can quite often change from page to page, its been in desperate need of a kick up the arse for years.

Its probably a fair bet mobile phone companies will be raising their game beyond fancy facias in the future as a result of this release.

I do not anticipate apple taking the mobile market like they did with portable music, but its fair to say the market needs *somthing* more innovative than simply getting thinner.

There's your Flat-Earthers, and your Round-Earthers in everything.
Blimey! High street hi-fi with no graphic equalisers and tone-bypass options? Where on earth did they get that idea from then? Surely not from an insignificant minute cottage industry.

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Its fair to say p[eople have being a paying a premium for apple products because in general they are premium products compared to the compitition, just check out the contents of a macpro:

P[eople? No Mac spell checker with those fries?

I am at work in XP, and no there does not appear to be system wide spell checking as in OSX

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Originally posted by bob mccluckie:
On the contrary. Apart from the i-pod Job's products are destined to ultimately be the Betamax of their day.

The Betamax platform led to the 8 mm videocam, which basically dominated the market for nearly two decades. Is that what you meant, Bob? Or, maybe by comparing Apple products to the Betamax, you are acknowledging Apple's performance superiority, since it is generally accepted that Betamax performance exceeded that of VHS.

I think apple is going to have a little problem on their hands with the iphone as Cisco has sued them for trademark infringement.

Oops.

Steve.

With the Mac I like the way that there is a greater separation between the applications and the Operating System and that the control information is not in a large file but in files separate for each application - they might be in a common folder but still unique files.

The product naming issue is interesting, there are agencies that one uses to find out if a name is unique and in large companies the company would have a name verification group to ensure that that there was no conflict.

Could the name clash be deliberate to generate a form of publicity that may be a relatively cheap form of advertising even after paying compensation to Cisco?

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Originally posted by Ancipital:
I think apple is going to have a little problem on their hands with the iphone as Cisco has sued them for trademark infringement.

Oops.

Steve.

Interesting that Apple and Cisco did not sort this one out earlier. Perhaps Apple did not trust Cisco to not leak the story?

The solution will be difficult to predict I feel, probably down the judge on the day hearing the case.

Jono