Dirty stylus

Posted by: Andy Moore on 14 April 2002

The tiny stylus/cantilever on my DV17D2 collects an atrocious amount of crud, especially from poorly cleaned records. I've removed most of it with the brush supplied but there is still a bit that I can't seem to get rid of.
I'm paranoid about damaging the cantilever so I don't want to brush too hard and I'm also wary of using solvents (although I have had success using DM record cleaning fluid on cotton buds with Ortofon MM cartidges).
Any suggestions??
Andy
Posted on: 17 April 2002 by dave simpson
jcc- caro' bone suckin' sauce.

dev - must be the ESC stuff? The Fraim's are awesome! Wish naim had invented them years ago.

garyi - electronic vibrators - check out web-based hi-fi dealers specializing in analog tweaks.They are resonably priced... would guess 40 pounds or so ?

regards,

dave

Posted on: 17 April 2002 by Frank Abela
Andy,

In the 5 years I used my 17D2, I mainly used the Dynavector supplied brush. I agree that the 17D2 seems to attract more than its fair share of junk, but this is in part due to the fine-line stylus and in part to the short cantilever which helps trap said junk between it and the record.

The Dynavector brush got rid of pretty much all the junk that was picked up. Very very occasionally (once every 6 months perhaps) I'd use one of those vibrating pad devices, usually dry though sometimes with a touch of liquid. In all honesty I could never distinguish if it made a difference!

Nowadays I pretty much never use the pad and stick to the brush and occasionally the side of my record cleaning brush (the carbon fibre section is so flexible it definitely won't hurt the cartridge) for my Te Kaitora.

The less messing, the less chance of breakage.

Regards,
Frank.
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Posted on: 17 April 2002 by Mike Sae
What are you folks doing that attracts so much dust?

I haven't had a single dust rhino after using a record vaccum. I only vaccum a record once- when I get it home, that kills any static problems for good. I never have to worry about the record ever again.
I take the dustcover off while playing, and replace it when I'm done.

I use the bottom of the line "Record DoctorII" and don't even use fancy anti-static record sleeves.

Posted on: 18 April 2002 by J.N.
Bloody marvellous eh?

Obviously plenty of us vinyl grinding freaks out there.
Posted on: 18 April 2002 by Craig B
I think that some here are under the misconception that it is the dust bunnies collected by our styli that are the problem.

IME, it is the baked on crud interfering with proper groove tracing that is the problem. This shite takes some shifting as it is made up of built up vinyl molecules, mold release agents, pollutants and dust all of which are heat welded onto the stylus tip altering its profile and even its mass.

The soft fluffy miniature barbers brush that comes with the DVs and others is virtually useless at cleaning this crap off. Even with the naked eye one can see that a nude mounted styli appears black (and larger) rather than clear when viewed back lit with a lamp or torch.

Some of you just can't be hearing what your precious phono cartridges are really capable of and possibly assume that they are worn when in fact they are filthy. Linn and other manufacturers have reported that a good number of cartridges that have been submitted as faulty and/or worn are merely in need of proper stylus cleaning.

If I don't clean my tip before each and every record I can clearly hear the sound going off within a few record sides (and my records are pristine). A quick zap with the AT-637 and all is well again. In a pinch, such as when being accosted by bad sounding records at friends, I jump in with the striking surface of an unused book of matches (lead sterate) and restore the music.

If you can't find (nor wish to pay the price of) an electronic cleaner then go for Discwasher's SC-2 Stylus Cleaning Brush. It is the best manual brush of its kind ie. tightly packed short stiff bristles.

Ignore proper stylus cleaning at your peril.

Craig
Posted on: 18 April 2002 by Mike Sae
I use one of those SC2's, but with the fluid about once every 20 sides with worthwhile improvements to be had. You're suggesting I use the SC2 bareback, without fluid? OK, but I'm reminded of brushing my teeth dry, or wiping a car down without soap & water. I understand the theory of alcohol drying out the innards, but has anyone actually had a cart fail on them due to using fluids?

PS, keep ypur matchbooks away from my system wink