Amazing information in the Israeli press

Posted by: Arye_Gur on 12 March 2001

According to the Israeli press, Israely singers discovered Mana Acoustic !

The Israeli singer Eyal Golan, tried to sing while standing on a Mana table - and all the journalists that were present there descibed
that when they shut their eyes they were shure the are hearing Frank Sinatra.

A lady singer, Ritta tried the same and all were sure they are hearing Ella.

The last exprement was when a 10 years old boy who are learning to play for the last two years was standing on a Mana table, and when he played the alto all were sure they are listening to Paul Desmond.

Arye

Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Steve Toy
Mana may sound good but it don't sound real. I want to hear music, courtesy of, err, the music?
Not courtesy of Mana!
Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Nigel Cavendish
Steven said:

quote:
Mana may sound good but it don't sound real.

How would you, or anyone for that matter, know what "real" is given that what you hear comes off vinyl or CD (which is recorded through microphones via studio recording equipment onto master tape which is equalised and then further processed through myriad other machines) and is then replayed via a TT or CD player and amplifier and speakers?

In hi-fi we choose the sound we like, but let's not pretend that "real" has anything to do with it.

cheers

Nigel

Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Matthew T
I think I will see if I stick my dads Peugeot Diesel on Mana it sounds like a Ferrari, or maybe a Porsche...
Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Andrew Randle
This one's tired and done to death. Remember the set of photos of household appliances on Mana (Re: Mana Forum)? They were the original and the best.

Andrew

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Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Chris Brandon
...personally,I prefer a woman..... smile


Regards

Chris

Posted on: 12 March 2001 by David Dever
quote:
How would you, or anyone for that matter, know what "real" is given that what you hear comes off vinyl or CD (which is recorded through microphones via studio recording equipment onto master tape which is equalised and then further processed through myriad other machines) and is then replayed via a TT or CD player and amplifier and speakers?

If you're the recording engineer, and have carefully monitored the processes of recording and mastering, then you have this objectivity--and can spot any glaring errors or additive / subtractive / other colorations in playback.

As with anything--if it sounds larger than life, it's probably not real.

Dave Dever, NANA

Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Andrew Randle
quote:
Even then I fell off and landed on my own 3 point suspension!

Now that's something they haven't covered in the Mana Forum! wink

I hope nothing had to be re-sprung.

Andrew

P.S. Frederick, I like your consistency (Re: the "saving money on expensive racks" thread), looks like you've set yourself a task.

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[This message was edited by Andrew Randle on MONDAY 12 March 2001 at 21:32.]

Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Nigel Cavendish
Dave Dever said:

quote:
If you're the recording engineer,

Not many of those on this forum, or any other, I suspect. We are talking about your average hi-fi punter.

Anyway, don't recording engineers monitor through headphones and/or speakers which are amplified by some electronics, which are fed by some microphones which are powered by.. etc?

On a mass market recorded medium you get the sound the engineer wants you to have, or, if you are lucky, as near to the sound he/she got through his/her equipment.

Your average hi-fi buyer wants something that sounds good to them.

The only "real" you can get is attending an unamplified live event - and how disappointing from a sound perspective can some of those be!

cheers

Nigel

Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Steve Toy
The number of postings on this website, I should think. I get the impression it is a bad idea to upset members of this clique! NOT! big grin
quote:
As with anything--if it sounds larger than life, it's probably not real.

Exactly!
Posted on: 12 March 2001 by richard goldsmith
In a former life when I was involved in a fair amount of recording (as a musician)it never ceased to amaze me that the sound in the room where you recorded *never* sounded like the sound from the monitors. A recent expereience with a friend's recording convinced me that nothing much has changed in the last 15 years or so.

One sage once said to me that once they could get the transducers sorted, they'd get close. ie it's the microphones at one end and the speakers at the other that really pfaff up the sound.

Posted on: 12 March 2001 by Arye_Gur
Stephan ,

Continuing the line as members are telling about how mana improves things and that it is better to have a Mana instead of upgrading your system,
I was told that no matter with whom you have sex on a Mana, it is always like you'd done it with Kim Bassinger...

Arye

Posted on: 13 March 2001 by Martin M
quote:
The only "real" you can get is attending an unamplified live event

I have heard this argument quite a few times, it can also be used to defend the woolly stereophony of some systems - i.e you don't get fancy stereo at concerts why would you get it on a hi-fi.

However what 'real' are refering to here? For example where is the 'live' reference for electronic composition? Perhaps Kraftwerk records have been created with (for example) a full 3-D effect that would never, ever happen with a conventional band playing live. If this is engineered in (and there is no reason to suspect it hasn't) and the system doesn't reproduce it, it is by defintion inaccurate. Similary, some rock musicians see the studio as instrument in itself - Lowell George is good example. This too could remove the concept of a live reference.

Perhaps you could ask Micky Dale about the relative performance of his music played in the studio and re-played on his DBL set-up?

For myself, getting more "real" is more concerned with rather transcendaent qualities of musical appreciation rather an approximation to a questionable sonic reference point - which is what Nigel was getting at with the rest of the paragraph (I think).

Time for some coffee....

Posted on: 13 March 2001 by Martin M
quote:
I was told that no matter with whom you have sex on a Mana, it is always like you'd done it with Kim Bassinger...


Right I'm going to lie on my arm for a while and order a Sound Stage! Lets get some scientific input on all this.

Posted on: 13 March 2001 by Andrew Randle
Frederick,

The 500 club seems to be referring to the number of posts authored by someone. However, I'd rather trade in all my 500 or so postings to join the other 500 club (i.e. NAP 500) wink

Andrew

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Posted on: 14 March 2001 by Matthew T
Does that mean if I have 2 posts can I have a CDSII?

Too late!

I guess I'm almost at 52.