Software Wishes for the HDX

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that EAC easily outperformes the ripping engine

sorry hans your dreaming, not in any of the tests we have done and we have done lots and lots and lots

Is there any chance of having internet radio on the HDX and also what is the best way to rip vinyl.

regards,

Dev

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I've already experienced that EAC easily outperformes the ripping engine from the HDX.

Can you elaborate ?

Cheers

James

- HDCD decoding (due to the fact that the CD 5X, CDX 2, CDS 3 and CD 555 all support HDCD decoding via their PMD 200 digital filter I can imagine that there are quite a few Naimees around who collected some HDCDs).And as far as I know the HDX runs with Windows and Microsoft is the owner of HDCD liscense...

- different digital filter modes to choose from... like Ayre or T+A.

- A way to copy the ripped WAV files from the HDX to another hard drive in the network. Although my HDX is very new and I expect it to work quite a few years, I would like to have my stored music as future proof as possible meaning that I can use my WAV files in ten or twelve years with other components (even non-Naim),too. This is because I do not want to rip all my CDs again and I have very strong concerns that there will be no CD drives around anymore in a few years. My point is that once the CDs are ripped to WAV files I can easily store them on whatever storage we will have in the future. This is a very important point for me. Besides that the internal ripping engine is at least as good as using EAC in secure mode with a Plextor Plexwriter Premium 2. For me there is no need to improve the ripping engine of the HDX. It is even that good that I would use it in order to rip to an external NAS instead of using my Plextor with EAC.

- Although the sound quality of internet radio is rather poor I would like to listen to it because of the great music they play.

- a "screensaver" for the touchscreen turns it off after a few seconds. When listening to music I do not want to see the album cover. It is a little like turning off the green button lights of the pre.

- quieter running internal hard drive

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Originally posted by Dev B:
on the HDX what is the best way to rip vinyl.

regards,

Dev

Yes, pre-launch, my dealer certainly had the impression that this was on the cards for later HDX models, and I've been waiting for it to appear. Has the "recession" put this on hold?

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Originally posted by John R.:

- A way to copy the ripped WAV files from the HDX to another hard drive in the network.

Am I wrong in thinking this was possible ? I thought you could go into the browser and move files away from the internal HD ? If not, what happens when the 400Gb gets full ? (Apologies if I've just asked a daft question!)

Up to now you can only rip CDs to the internal hard drive which is 400Gb - should be enough for about 600 albums.
As far as I know the upcoming software update will enable the user to rip CDs with the HDX to external NAS hard drives - offering more than enough storage. This is not to be confounded with exporting already ripped files.

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Originally posted by james n:
[QUOTE] I've already experienced that EAC easily outperformes the ripping engine from the HDX.

Can you elaborate ?

Cheers


I bought a CD from Moby (Go - Very Best of). Brand new. Ripped it with the HDX. Second number was completely corrupt. Played the CD with a PC and could not hear anything. Ripped it with EAC. EAC struggled hard on the second number, but worked it's way through it. Copied the files on a NAS and played the second number without any problems.

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Originally posted by Hans Vereecken:

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Originally posted by james n:
[QUOTE] I've already experienced that EAC easily outperformes the ripping engine from the HDX.

Can you elaborate ?

Cheers


EAC struggled hard on the second number, but worked it's way through it. Copied the files on a NAS and played the second number without any problems.

Yip - that proved it alright....1 track on 1 CD proves without a doubt that EAC is a superior ripper to the HDX ripper...


I would take the CD back regardless and get a replacement...obviously faulty

Actually it only takes one such example.

Hans - assuming this is repeatable - would it be worth sending the problematic CD to the Naim engineers? Most be some unusual set of circumstances that cause this.

Just a thought.

I'm note sure if it's relevant to the above comments, but I have so far ripped 500+ CDs to my Nas drive, mostly using DBpoweramp. For some reason I have had a problem with a handfull of CDs.

I have tried various things to overcome and have found that some will rip using EAC, in one case I was able to rip using a different computer and some will rip if you make a CDR copy and then rip the copy. There's usually a way round it.

How do you take back a CD you might have bought 10 years ago and plays perfectly on a CD player?

Gary

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How do you take back a CD you might have bought 10 years ago and plays perfectly on a CD player?

It may have been remastered nonetheless. Also–if the disc is not "truly" a Red Book CD (by way of disc corruption / copy protection schemes), you may have legal recourse in your jurisdiction.

Hans it would be interesting for us to test the cd, do you know if its copy protected, this can sometimes cause an issue with some drives, perhaps ours? would be good to know. Often record companies will replace these discs for non-protected versions.

Up to now I did not experience any problems ripping copy protected CDs.

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Originally posted by Paul Stephenson:
Hans it would be interesting for us to test the cd, do you know if its copy protected, this can sometimes cause an issue with some drives, perhaps ours? would be good to know. Often record companies will replace these discs for non-protected versions.

I can not see any mention of copy protection on the disc. However, there is a special feature on the disc. It's is called "Opendisc". When put in a PC, it opens all sorts of extra info about the artist.

I've deleted the disc from the HDX and re-ripped it (with the HDX). The second song still remains buggy, but DIFFERENT then the first time.
I will send you the disc. I think, it will arrive next week.

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Originally posted by Macker:

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Originally posted by Hans Vereecken:

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Originally posted by james n:
[QUOTE] I've already experienced that EAC easily outperformes the ripping engine from the HDX.

Can you elaborate ?

Cheers


EAC struggled hard on the second number, but worked it's way through it. Copied the files on a NAS and played the second number without any problems.

Yip - that proved it alright....1 track on 1 CD proves without a doubt that EAC is a superior ripper to the HDX ripper...


I would take the CD back regardless and get a replacement...obviously faulty

Yes, normally that's the first I would do. But, when playing on a PC, I could not hear anything. Try to explain this to the vendor.....

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Originally posted by Paul Stephenson:
Hans it would be interesting for us to test the cd, do you know if its copy protected, this can sometimes cause an issue with some drives, perhaps ours? would be good to know. Often record companies will replace these discs for non-protected versions.

Interesting with this open cd thing I thought it was only something that plagued blueray and maybe dvd disks! for sure this must take the cd way beyond the redbook standard.

When I had the HDX on a long demo I found one disk a burnt copy of K.D. Lang Drag, from 1997 so it should be long before copy protection was added to disks. The HDX did nothing with the disk, I do not think the rip started at all. but my x2 and s3 play the disk without any problems. I will try to remember to bring the disk to my dealer and have them look for any error messages that may be on the frontpanel.

Claus

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I found one disk a burnt copy of K.D. Lang Drag, from 1997 so it should be long before copy protection was added to disks. The HDX did nothing with the disk

It must have realised that it was k.d. lang and it tried to save you from your fate.

You can almost hear the device screaming 'Don't do it Claus, you're a young man!'

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Originally posted by Paul Stephenson:
Hans it would be interesting for us to test the cd, do you know if its copy protected, this can sometimes cause an issue with some drives, perhaps ours? would be good to know. Often record companies will replace these discs for non-protected versions.

I did send the CD to Salisbury. It will arrive next week. Success.
The faulty track was number 2.

Apple Lossless compatibility please.

Apple lossless is probably a deal breaker for me too

Hans, thanks, Sc and Jon should be in next release 1.4d in beta right now.

oh dear :-)

time to tell Dr Peter to sell me on then lol. And more fraim. And...

Great news Paul!...Damn!

HANS,disc recieved great thanks can you mail me with the following
current software version
- The unit serial number

Paul.stephenson@naimaudio.com