Discrete power off and on remote codes
Posted by: Toeknee on 03 January 2008
Hi All,
I am in the process of setting up a NEVO SL courtesy of EBAY. Although my sold "As New" device has a nasty crack on the top :-( . To the point is there a way of issuing a discrete power on and power off code for the N-Vi that I can teach the device? It would be really great with macros.
I have thanks to the forum found the discrete input codes.
Regards and Happy New Year all.
Tony
I am in the process of setting up a NEVO SL courtesy of EBAY. Although my sold "As New" device has a nasty crack on the top :-( . To the point is there a way of issuing a discrete power on and power off code for the N-Vi that I can teach the device? It would be really great with macros.
I have thanks to the forum found the discrete input codes.
Regards and Happy New Year all.
Tony
Posted on: 03 January 2008 by David Dever
RC5 system code 27 - 100 power on
27 - 101 power off
27 - 101 power off
Posted on: 04 January 2008 by Toeknee
Thanks David,
Now I am going to look a little dim I am sure. What would the key sequence on my existing remote be to teach the new unit?
i.e. how do I issue system code 27 and then 100 for power on?
Regards Tony
Now I am going to look a little dim I am sure. What would the key sequence on my existing remote be to teach the new unit?
i.e. how do I issue system code 27 and then 100 for power on?
Regards Tony
Posted on: 04 January 2008 by David Dever
Sorry, no experience with the NEVO SL here–you're on your own. The discrete codes are best used in the context of a Philips RC5 codeset database already provided for the NEVO (you'll need to download v.2 of the NevoStudio software) or imported from an existing Philips PCF/CCF file.
Posted on: 04 January 2008 by Toeknee
Thanks David.
Okay, well I found a utility after some googleing called MakeHex on remote central after a bit of playing about I have generated a hex code from the RC5 numbers you have given me. I will give it a whirl tonight and see if it does the trick - fingers crossed. It will be macro city from then on in :-)
Regards Tony
Okay, well I found a utility after some googleing called MakeHex on remote central after a bit of playing about I have generated a hex code from the RC5 numbers you have given me. I will give it a whirl tonight and see if it does the trick - fingers crossed. It will be macro city from then on in :-)
Regards Tony
Posted on: 04 January 2008 by Toeknee
Okay so that didnt work - I have cut and pasted in the HEX code. The N-vi seems to see the code as the backlight on the unit keypad lights up it doesnt power on...back to the drawing board.
Regards
Regards
Posted on: 04 January 2008 by jim c
Toeknee
This is what I got by converting the RC5 to Hex.
Let us know if these work.
Power on-
0000 0073 000A 0000 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 09B7
Power off-
0000 0073 000A 0000 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 09B7
jim
This is what I got by converting the RC5 to Hex.
Let us know if these work.
Power on-
0000 0073 000A 0000 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 09B7
Power off-
0000 0073 000A 0000 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 09B7
jim
Posted on: 04 January 2008 by Toeknee
Jim,
Thanks but no joy. What is odd is that your hex code was different from mine! I used the RC5 file is that the one you used? Again the N-Vi seems aware of the code as the lights flicker but it doesn't have the desired effect.
Using the straight RC5 config file.
Device=27
Function=101
Define T=0
Protocol=RC5
Frequency=36000
Time Base=889 '888.89 = 32 cycles at 36Khz
Message Time=128 '128 times TimeBase
Zero=1,-1
One=-1,1
Prefix=1 'Officially -1,1 but starting with off is silly
First Bit=MSB
Form=;*,~F:1:6,T:1,D:5,F:6
RESULTS
Device Code: 27 Function: 100
0000 0073 0000 000A 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0CC5
Device Code: 27 Function: 101
0000 0073 0000 000A 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0CA4
Regards Tony
Thanks but no joy. What is odd is that your hex code was different from mine! I used the RC5 file is that the one you used? Again the N-Vi seems aware of the code as the lights flicker but it doesn't have the desired effect.
Using the straight RC5 config file.
Device=27
Function=101
Define T=0
Protocol=RC5
Frequency=36000
Time Base=889 '888.89 = 32 cycles at 36Khz
Message Time=128 '128 times TimeBase
Zero=1,-1
One=-1,1
Prefix=1 'Officially -1,1 but starting with off is silly
First Bit=MSB
Form=;*,~F:1:6,T:1,D:5,F:6
RESULTS
Device Code: 27 Function: 100
0000 0073 0000 000A 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0CC5
Device Code: 27 Function: 101
0000 0073 0000 000A 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0CA4
Regards Tony
Posted on: 04 January 2008 by jim c
Tony,
Sorry to hear they didn't work.
I used a hex conversion utility that was given to me during a training session with RTI (remotes). Apparently the difference is due to us using two different conversion programs.
If you get a chance, ask the question in the 'Discrete Code Hunter' room of Remote Central. A member there by the name of johnsfine developed Make Hex and is usually around to help.
Good luck and keep us posted.
best,
jim
Sorry to hear they didn't work.
I used a hex conversion utility that was given to me during a training session with RTI (remotes). Apparently the difference is due to us using two different conversion programs.
If you get a chance, ask the question in the 'Discrete Code Hunter' room of Remote Central. A member there by the name of johnsfine developed Make Hex and is usually around to help.
Good luck and keep us posted.
best,
jim
Posted on: 07 January 2008 by Toeknee
Hi All,
I have posted the information from this thread up to the discrete code hunter forum on remote central. After a brief to and from with Johnsfine am back to square one.
David D, Can I ask you how you came to the RC5 27-100,101 codes have you got this working with a different remote perhaps a pronto? If you do Johnsfine may be able analyse this with a view to sussing out why once it ran through makehex it didnt work with the NEVO.
This was Johnsfine's response:
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Now that I see that response from the other forum, I see that you interpreted it correctly and used MakeHex correctly and generated the Pronto Hex that corresponds to the signals specified by that response.
I don't know why they don't work. Sorry, I don't know anything about the NEVO nor the Naim.
Do you have other functions of the Naim working with the NEVO? Or were On and Off the only functions you were going to use?
If you have Pronto Hex for any working function of the same device, that would help a lot toward understanding why the discrete codes you tried didn't work.
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It would be great if anyone had a list of the RC5 codes for the N-VI (or any other NAIM devices). I am sure most people use a univeral report of some kind to consolidate their handsets. A nice clean HEX code makes set up so much nicer :-)
In the mean-time I have set up the NeVO SL to ask the question "Is the NAIM N-VI switched on or off" and put two buttons to answer the question. The NEVO SL is a lovely bit of kit if anyone hase one and would like a copy of my config (graphics, macros etc) to have a look at and vice versa let me know.
Regards all
Tony
I have posted the information from this thread up to the discrete code hunter forum on remote central. After a brief to and from with Johnsfine am back to square one.
David D, Can I ask you how you came to the RC5 27-100,101 codes have you got this working with a different remote perhaps a pronto? If you do Johnsfine may be able analyse this with a view to sussing out why once it ran through makehex it didnt work with the NEVO.
This was Johnsfine's response:
-------------------snip------------------
Now that I see that response from the other forum, I see that you interpreted it correctly and used MakeHex correctly and generated the Pronto Hex that corresponds to the signals specified by that response.
I don't know why they don't work. Sorry, I don't know anything about the NEVO nor the Naim.
Do you have other functions of the Naim working with the NEVO? Or were On and Off the only functions you were going to use?
If you have Pronto Hex for any working function of the same device, that would help a lot toward understanding why the discrete codes you tried didn't work.
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It would be great if anyone had a list of the RC5 codes for the N-VI (or any other NAIM devices). I am sure most people use a univeral report of some kind to consolidate their handsets. A nice clean HEX code makes set up so much nicer :-)
In the mean-time I have set up the NeVO SL to ask the question "Is the NAIM N-VI switched on or off" and put two buttons to answer the question. The NEVO SL is a lovely bit of kit if anyone hase one and would like a copy of my config (graphics, macros etc) to have a look at and vice versa let me know.
Regards all
Tony
Posted on: 07 January 2008 by tonym
Hi Tony.
I sympathise with your problem! I was trying to establish if there were discrete on/off codes for my AV2. Unfortunately there don't appear to be although Naim very kindly gave me a list of the RC5 codes.
My final solution - I just leave it on all the time! minimal power consumption & it solves the problem.
I sympathise with your problem! I was trying to establish if there were discrete on/off codes for my AV2. Unfortunately there don't appear to be although Naim very kindly gave me a list of the RC5 codes.
My final solution - I just leave it on all the time! minimal power consumption & it solves the problem.
Posted on: 08 January 2008 by Toeknee
Well no luck with discrete codes, but since finishing the programming of the remote I have realised that a discrete on code for the N-Vi probably would not always be satisfactory. The booting time of the N-Vi being a little under 30 seconds it would make for a nasty wait in the macro.
I have put a question screen into the macro which then has wait screens which count down. If the Naim is on and you answer as such it skips to the next section without a wait.
I have the discrete codes for the TV and projector which are handy. The programming has allowed me to go for an activity based approach which even the wife likes.
I hope that manufacturers start to build in universal remote friendly codes and perhaps publish them as I am sure there are a few people who would benefit out there.
Remote Central have a wealth of advice and from there you can get a lot of handy codes for your boxes. Also found a great FAQ for any SANYO Z4 owners to get the best out of your projector which I will happily post, if anyone is intrested then PM me.
Regards.
I have put a question screen into the macro which then has wait screens which count down. If the Naim is on and you answer as such it skips to the next section without a wait.
I have the discrete codes for the TV and projector which are handy. The programming has allowed me to go for an activity based approach which even the wife likes.
I hope that manufacturers start to build in universal remote friendly codes and perhaps publish them as I am sure there are a few people who would benefit out there.
Remote Central have a wealth of advice and from there you can get a lot of handy codes for your boxes. Also found a great FAQ for any SANYO Z4 owners to get the best out of your projector which I will happily post, if anyone is intrested then PM me.
Regards.