Calling Adam
Posted by: Michael Jones on 05 April 2005
How can I change my user name on groupee?
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Mick P
Adam
If you have genuinely not visited a Dentist for 15 years, you are a fool. That is verging on self inflicted pain.
Also if I was your boss, I would have given you a mega bollocking because you are not in the office because of your own lack of care.
So no sympathy from me.
Also I sent in a posting which is being held in suspension because of a "trigger word".
What is all that about.
Regards
Mick
PS I never the less wish you a speedy recovery.
If you have genuinely not visited a Dentist for 15 years, you are a fool. That is verging on self inflicted pain.
Also if I was your boss, I would have given you a mega bollocking because you are not in the office because of your own lack of care.
So no sympathy from me.
Also I sent in a posting which is being held in suspension because of a "trigger word".
What is all that about.
Regards
Mick
PS I never the less wish you a speedy recovery.
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by BigH47
MP is there anything you won't get on your self opinionated high horse about?
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Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Rasher
Charming!
Mick
If you have genuinely not visited your rented property for 7 years, you are a fool. That is verging on self inflicted pain.
Also if I was your tenant, I would have given you a mega bollocking because you are negligent in your own lack of care.
So no sympathy from me.
I take it that the Masonic claim that it is a charitable institution extends only to business dealings and is not a heartfelt act by its members.
Mick
If you have genuinely not visited your rented property for 7 years, you are a fool. That is verging on self inflicted pain.
Also if I was your tenant, I would have given you a mega bollocking because you are negligent in your own lack of care.
So no sympathy from me.
I take it that the Masonic claim that it is a charitable institution extends only to business dealings and is not a heartfelt act by its members.
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Rasher
Scene from Wizard of Oz:
AUNT EM:
Almira Gulch, just because you own half the county doesn't mean you have the power to run the rest of us! For twenty-three years, I've been dying to tell you what I thought of you! And now -- well, being a Christian woman, I can't say it!
AUNT EM:
Almira Gulch, just because you own half the county doesn't mean you have the power to run the rest of us! For twenty-three years, I've been dying to tell you what I thought of you! And now -- well, being a Christian woman, I can't say it!
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Mick P
Rasher
This tenant episode is working to my advantage.
I have so far negotiated nearly 50% off the estimated cost of repairs.
Also I have had a trusted estate agent friend of mine, value the house before and after repairs and I stand to make another £15,000.00 when tax relief is taken into account. The house will be pristine and will more readily attract Buyers or new Tenants.
Surprisingly she has done me a favour.
But just to prove I am not a pinko, I am keeping the deposit.
Regards
Mick
This tenant episode is working to my advantage.
I have so far negotiated nearly 50% off the estimated cost of repairs.
Also I have had a trusted estate agent friend of mine, value the house before and after repairs and I stand to make another £15,000.00 when tax relief is taken into account. The house will be pristine and will more readily attract Buyers or new Tenants.
Surprisingly she has done me a favour.
But just to prove I am not a pinko, I am keeping the deposit.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
It's taken 15 years to get a fucking NHS appointment !
Fritz Von Back to your roots Yeah
Fritz Von Back to your roots Yeah
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Rasher
That's 'cos he ain't a Mason, matey.
An insight into the working of the "Lodge". I'm going to start a "Cottage".
Same system, but it's my arse!
Now That's Charity!!
Blimmin 'ard work being a Christian, ain't it Mick.
An insight into the working of the "Lodge". I'm going to start a "Cottage".
Same system, but it's my arse!
Now That's Charity!!
Blimmin 'ard work being a Christian, ain't it Mick.
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Mick P
quote:Blimmin 'ard work being a Christian, ain't it Mick
Yep
Mick
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Adam Meredith
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Adam
If you have genuinely not visited a Dentist for 15 years, you are a fool. That is verging on self inflicted pain.
Also if I was your boss, I would have given you a mega bollocking because you are not in the office because of your own lack of care.
So no sympathy from me.
Also I sent in a posting which is being held in suspension because of a "trigger word".
What is all that about.
Regards
Mick
PS I never the less wish you a speedy recovery.
I agree with you entirely - mea culpa.
Your trigger word was, ludicrously, "Scunthorpe" - the auto alert's smutty mind ignored the "S....horpe" - did the same for "snigger" some time ago. I was as bewildered as you - thinking it might have taken exception to "Swindon".
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Adam Meredith
Not exactly Catch 22 but ..... the dentist wouldn't prescribe effective pain relief - so I made an appointment to register with a local doctor. As I was about to fill in the forms the receptionist told me that, if it was pain caused by my teeth, I should go back to my dentist. I won't be back there until the Crime Scene bods require me.
It comes about from the appalling state of National Health dentistry - many people using the relatively cheap doctor to get relief as they cannot afford the dentist's charges.
The reason why this tooth blew up - the rank incompetence of an NHS dentist - the only one to be had "in" Bath - he was in Keynsham (spelt K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M for those who recall Radio Luxembourg). He drilled into a live tooth, showed disbelief that this could be hurting and, when convinced of its vitality, left a sizable crater unfilled.
It comes about from the appalling state of National Health dentistry - many people using the relatively cheap doctor to get relief as they cannot afford the dentist's charges.
The reason why this tooth blew up - the rank incompetence of an NHS dentist - the only one to be had "in" Bath - he was in Keynsham (spelt K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M for those who recall Radio Luxembourg). He drilled into a live tooth, showed disbelief that this could be hurting and, when convinced of its vitality, left a sizable crater unfilled.
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
There's me thinking that NHS was the trigger phrase !
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Guy D
Ah Adam
I see you have inadvertently entered the doctor/ dentist conflict zone.
It runs something like this: Dentists spend 5+ years learning dentistry including analgesia. They have, via the British Dental Formulary, access to a wide range of effective analgesia which they are fully able to prescribe both privately and under the NHS (I think pretty much the same range as doctors).
Doctors spend 5+ years learning pretty much everything except dentistry. But have a wide experience of analgesia and confidence in prescribing the drugs.
Access to GPs is generally pretty easy, access to dentists is... well different.
Most GPs get very fed up with being asked by patients to best guess dentistry as the patient either can't get to see an NHS dentist or gets inadequate analgesia.
Certainly in my area of Middle England there is an agreement between the Local Medical Committee and the Local Dental Committee that all dental problems should be seen by a dentist, as they are the most appropriate practitioners.
It looks like you entered a GP surgery with a similar experience who, in my completely unbiased, opinion suggested if the problem is dental see a dentist. Being a new patient you have not helped your case.
As suggested above the best solution is often the emergency NHS dental service, phone number via NHS Direct.
However, I am sure the experience of most of the GPs on this forum will be we see our patients, best guess antibiotics and give descent analgesia with a smile and a polite "Don't come back with this, find a dentist."
As you can see a minefield into which you and your tooth have wandered.
Like everyone else I wish you a speedy recovery as dental pain, mainly due to the pressures involved, is particularly painful. Personally I find a heavy soaking in a single malt most effective and better tasting than cloves.
Guy
I see you have inadvertently entered the doctor/ dentist conflict zone.
It runs something like this: Dentists spend 5+ years learning dentistry including analgesia. They have, via the British Dental Formulary, access to a wide range of effective analgesia which they are fully able to prescribe both privately and under the NHS (I think pretty much the same range as doctors).
Doctors spend 5+ years learning pretty much everything except dentistry. But have a wide experience of analgesia and confidence in prescribing the drugs.
Access to GPs is generally pretty easy, access to dentists is... well different.
Most GPs get very fed up with being asked by patients to best guess dentistry as the patient either can't get to see an NHS dentist or gets inadequate analgesia.
Certainly in my area of Middle England there is an agreement between the Local Medical Committee and the Local Dental Committee that all dental problems should be seen by a dentist, as they are the most appropriate practitioners.
It looks like you entered a GP surgery with a similar experience who, in my completely unbiased, opinion suggested if the problem is dental see a dentist. Being a new patient you have not helped your case.
As suggested above the best solution is often the emergency NHS dental service, phone number via NHS Direct.
However, I am sure the experience of most of the GPs on this forum will be we see our patients, best guess antibiotics and give descent analgesia with a smile and a polite "Don't come back with this, find a dentist."
As you can see a minefield into which you and your tooth have wandered.
Like everyone else I wish you a speedy recovery as dental pain, mainly due to the pressures involved, is particularly painful. Personally I find a heavy soaking in a single malt most effective and better tasting than cloves.
Guy
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Adam Meredith
I was, and am, under the treatment of a (private) dentist who showed remarkable puritan reticence about prescribing an effective painkiller.
As he gave me to believe that he was unable to prescribe I took myself to a doctor for the medical complaint of exploding head without remedy. My understanding was - I have a dentist who won't and a doctor who won't.
Having spent some time with terminal cases I am amazed at the continuing lack of understanding as to what pain relief is. It is not giving an ineffective dose - it is providing a drug which will remove pain.
I have taken your last advice and am currently enjoying Spinal Tap and whiskey - only slightly worried that I have had to dose up on 800mg of useless, liver-threatening, paracetamol in order to get a paltry 20mg of codeine phosphate.
As he gave me to believe that he was unable to prescribe I took myself to a doctor for the medical complaint of exploding head without remedy. My understanding was - I have a dentist who won't and a doctor who won't.
Having spent some time with terminal cases I am amazed at the continuing lack of understanding as to what pain relief is. It is not giving an ineffective dose - it is providing a drug which will remove pain.
I have taken your last advice and am currently enjoying Spinal Tap and whiskey - only slightly worried that I have had to dose up on 800mg of useless, liver-threatening, paracetamol in order to get a paltry 20mg of codeine phosphate.
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Adam Meredith
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Adam
If you have genuinely not visited a Dentist for 15 years, you are a fool. That is verging on self inflicted pain.
So no sympathy from me.
No Mick - I now go regularly - this flared up over a weekend in a previously badly treated tooth.
I trust I now deserve your sympathy and my wages back.
Posted on: 07 April 2005 by Mick P
Adam
OK, I feel sorry for you.
Mick
OK, I feel sorry for you.
Mick