CD-eating printing inks
Posted by: JWM on 21 April 2006
Hope this is the right Forum for this.
Several years ago (about the same time people were realising that actually you could not spread jam on a CD and still listen to it) there was a rumour/scare put around that, after about 10 years, the inks used to print on CDs would eat through the plastic into the signal-carrying layer, rendering the CD unplayable.
Has ANYONE actually experienced this unfortunate purported problem?
I recently listened to the first CD I ever bought, in 1986, Tallis Scholars, and it's absolutely fine.
James
Several years ago (about the same time people were realising that actually you could not spread jam on a CD and still listen to it) there was a rumour/scare put around that, after about 10 years, the inks used to print on CDs would eat through the plastic into the signal-carrying layer, rendering the CD unplayable.
Has ANYONE actually experienced this unfortunate purported problem?
I recently listened to the first CD I ever bought, in 1986, Tallis Scholars, and it's absolutely fine.
James
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by BigH47
There has been some oxidisation problems on certain discs. The discs were going brown at the edges.I can't remember which off hand. A search might find the thread.
Howard
Howard
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by bazz
I have an ASV CD, made in England, from 1990 which has gone yellow. Still playable though.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Malky
I bought my first CD in 1988. Since then, one disk out of my collection of 100's started skipping inexplicably and had to be replaced. The rest are fine, some after 17-18 years. Fingers crossed.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
quote:Originally posted by JWM:
after about 10 years, the inks used to print on CDs would eat through the plastic into the signal-carrying layer
I don't know if it is a matter of corrosive ink.
The fact is that after years and years some of my cds (perfect with not even a finger print) start acting strange.
They said: a cd is forever.
I say: don't believe the hype.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Shayman
I have a friend who mocks my 'old fashioned' cd and vinyl collection saying HD storage is the future and "forever".
How I laughed when his 3 yr old HD inexplicably stopped working and is indeed beyond repair.
The same bloke always asks where the bass is on my system. Basically because its not shaking the next door neighbour out of his bed. Horses for courses I s'ppose.
Jonathan
How I laughed when his 3 yr old HD inexplicably stopped working and is indeed beyond repair.
The same bloke always asks where the bass is on my system. Basically because its not shaking the next door neighbour out of his bed. Horses for courses I s'ppose.
Jonathan
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by full ahead
Ive a Scott Hamilton cd on Concord Jazz that i can see thru.Was like that when i bought it about 12 years ago,plays just fine.Ive some cdr's going a bit brown around the edge but they play fine.No ink problems as yet.
Regards
George.
Regards
George.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
quote:Originally posted by Shayman:
Basically because its not shaking the next door neighbour out of his bed.
Yes.
Music for machos!
Same problem with surround systems.
I went to see a guy, some months ago, and he delighted me with his new bloody system.
I did have to escape.
My ears and my head were hurting.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Guido Fawkes
quote:Originally posted by Shayman:
I have a friend who mocks my 'old fashioned' cd and vinyl collection saying HD storage is the future and "forever".
How I laughed when his 3 yr old HD inexplicably stopped working and is indeed beyond repair.
He could have avoided that disaster by backing-up each of his recorded albums to quarter inch tape and storing these in a fire proof aafe

quote:
The same bloke always asks where the bass is on my system. Basically because its not shaking the next door neighbour out of his bed. Horses for courses I s'ppose.
Jonathan
I could never find the loudness button on my amp either.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
"Loudness button" is one of the most incredible cheats of audio market.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Sorry Mike.
3020 is a mile stone.
I was talking about japanese stuff.
3020 is a mile stone.
I was talking about japanese stuff.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Heath
I have a problem with Nimbus CDs from the late 80s / early 90s with the disc coating going soft and tacky on the label side. You can't clean fingerprints etc off them, as this makes it worse. I think this was known about at the time. I have a few hundred pounds worth of discs like this. Has any one else experienced this, so far all of the discs are playable, but I would like to know, does it eventually affect the playback of the disc?
I have only had a few with the famous CD rot, mainly singles. I heard this was due to pressing plants not sticking to the red book specs, taking the metallic layer right to the edge of the disc. This then allowed the layer to oxidise, hence CD ROT! Red book spec called for about 1mm of plastic substrate beyond the metallic layer to effectively seal it from the environment.
I have only had a few with the famous CD rot, mainly singles. I heard this was due to pressing plants not sticking to the red book specs, taking the metallic layer right to the edge of the disc. This then allowed the layer to oxidise, hence CD ROT! Red book spec called for about 1mm of plastic substrate beyond the metallic layer to effectively seal it from the environment.