Am I the only one who.....

Posted by: Tam on 18 July 2005

In an effort to liven up discussion slightly here, and reflecting on the fact that some threads here get very few responses, I had an idea (probably not a very good one, but hey Winker ). It sometimes seem as though there are one or two discs in my collection that I must be one of the only people to own, and they are often ones I would consider real gems. So, am I the only one who owns, and loves:

Leonard Bernstein's Mass

Electric Bath by Don Ellis

All Thomas Dolby's Albums


Now, the point of this thread is twofold. First and foremost, I'm interested in what you considered to be the hidden gems of your cd collection (that are maybe a little different and not nearly so widely owned/known as they deserve to be), I'm always curious to find new artists/composers/performers who have a degree of novelty (i.e. something new or different to say). Second, I'm a little curious if anyone actually owns these discs!

However, please: NO LISTS. Now I realise I have flatly contradicted that earlier in this post, but I will rectify that in just a moment by going into some more detail on each of the items listed above. We I'm seeking to avoid are the kinds of posts that are basically copies of people's cd catalogue since I'm not sure how useful that is. I have to say that to some extent I'm a little guilty and have posted one or two lists. But I think no more than two or three items in a post would be a good thing to aim for with some background (if necessary) and what you think makes it so special (i.e. why we should all be rushing out to buy the disc, or indeed, tune into the radio station, in question).


So, some detail about my above choices:

I'm a big fan of Bernstein (both as a composer, but primarily as a conductor). I picked up Mass because it was on offer in HMV and had an intriguing entry in the penguin guide. It was not at all what I expected, but has continued to grow on me. Composed in memory of JFK for the opening of the Kennedy centre, it's really more a musical than a mass. A true piece of it's time with themes of civil rights and Vietnam very prominent. While the libretto is less than perfect and the conclusion unsatisfactory it has some wonderful music and a few profound moments none the less. However, it probably isn't for all tastes and if you don't like Bernstein you may not care for this.

Electric Bath by Don Ellis is probably one of the oddest albums I've ever heard. I suppose you'd class it as jazz, but it's a blend of so many different things that frankly I rather defies categorisation. It's not simply the mixing in of India styles and instruments, of the use of electric instruments and effects, nor the unusual time signatures (e.g. 5/4, 13/4, 19/4 15/16), nor even the fact he played a 4 valve trumpet allowing him to play quarter-tones, but the combination of all these things together that make for a wonderfully unique listening experience. A good demo cd to boot.

Most people who are familiar with Dolby will be so through 'She blinded me with Science', but, to be honest, that's just about the only thing of his I really can't stand. I happen to think 'The Flat Earth' is one of the best albums of all time, the tracks just all belong together so comfortably. He writes interesting lyrics and gets some wonderfully creative sounds. It's a real shame he hasn't recorded anything for 10 years and has concentrated instead on tech businesses.


Anyway, that's far more than enough of me prattling on. Do you own any of these too. Do you love or hate them. What unknown gems are in your collection that deserve a chance in ours and WHY?



regards,

Tam

p.s. It is strictly NOT necessary to write posts anything like as long as this one! One or two sentences per disc will be great.
Posted on: 25 July 2005 by Sicey
Not yet, worth a look then i take it?


quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Woodhouse:
Sicey

I hope you've also discovered Nitin Sawhney and Karsh Kale?

Bruce
Posted on: 25 July 2005 by Guido Fawkes
Sallies Fforth by Rainbow Ffolly is possibly the best album I have ever heard from a group from High Wycombe. It is Beatles influenced.

Otherwise try Kaleidoscope's Tangerine Dream - which I think is a masterpiece. Kaleidoscope became Farfield Palour and released Bordeaux Rose one of all time favourite tracks.

And don't forget Nirvana (that's Patrick Campbell-Lyons UK outfit and not that abomination from Seattle, oh nevermind) Patrick Campbell Lyons formed Nirvana in the still-swinging London of the late-60s, together with Alex Spryropoulos. In 1968, signed to Island Records, they charted with 'Rainbow Chaser', a classic slice of pop psychedelia. The Story Of Simon Simopath is my recommendation.
Posted on: 25 July 2005 by Bruce Woodhouse
Sicey

Definitely if you like Talvin Singh. Nitin Sawhney 'Beyond Skin' should be the first place to start-a genuine classic that everyone should own IMHO. 'Human' and 'Philtre' probably the next best.

Karsh Kale is more dancey and directly similar to Talvin Singh I guess, I have 'Liberation'. Great in places, bit too messy in others for my tastes but worth a punt.

Enjoy!

Bruce
Posted on: 26 July 2005 by Stephen Bennett
This may seem a strange choice, but it's ignored by many PG fans and non-fan alike. Perhaps it's because of Millennium Dome associations?

Guest vocals by Elizabeth Fraser, Paul Buchanan, Ritchie Havens, Larla O Lionaird, Alison Goldfrapp make 'Ovo' by Peter Gabriel one of my favourites.

Regards

Stephen
Posted on: 26 July 2005 by naimlover
All my musical friends have Thomas Dolby records! You are not alone!

Stephen Bennett is right about Woo's 'Whichever way you are going you are going wrong'album (1982). Find them here and all the albums they have made since:woo

Virginia Astley 'From Gardens where we feel secure' is insanely great - Pastoral, ambient and very English. God bless her for making it.

Martha and the Muffins 'This is the Ice Age' is their 3rd Album, no longer available but if you like tuneful pop with experimental feel in a New Wave idiom you need to buy this. Don't judge them on just 'Echo Beach'. I shall own this one until I die...

And more up to date, ESCM by BT (Brian Transeau)is ambient/dance/big beat by a classically trained musician whom you can't easily pigeonhole - he did the soundtrack to 'Monster' the film that won an Oscar the other year. ESCM is the most important album I have bought in the last ten years which just shows you how utterly beyond hope I am.

Now let's hear you all chiming "Everyone's got those, tell us something NEW!!"

Jane and Barton anyone?
Posted on: 27 July 2005 by Sicey
And more up to date, ESCM by BT (Brian Transeau)is ambient/dance/big beat by a classically trained musician whom you can't easily pigeonhole - he did the soundtrack to 'Monster' the film that won an Oscar the other year. ESCM is the most important album I have bought in the last ten years which just shows you how utterly beyond hope I am.



I am also a big fan of BT, bought ESCM when it first came out, actually dug it out for a listen just the other week Winker have Ima and Still life in motion too Cool, also just picked up an old renaissance mix with a mix by BT and its good of course, its funny on the cover he says I am not really a DJ, but hey he does a pretty good job at it Winker

Oh and Bruce, Nitin and Karsh on Amazon order list Winker
Posted on: 27 July 2005 by Mike Hughes
Ciderglider,

M2oH is the correct acronym I believe.

Anyway, she still performs around Canada and there was a soundtrack album to a film called 'Apartment Hunting' out last year. Uncut raved about it and I ordered it via Mapleleaf or some such in Canada for under a tenner.

The other artists on the soundtrack are drivel and the M2oH stuff is best described as badly recorded and there are two versions of a couple of songs that are a great way of seeing just how random her singing 'process' really is i.e. it takes A/B comparisons to establish that you are listening to the same song.

Having said that, despite all the drawbacks, whilst it is no Miss America I have to say that there are 4 tracks of sheer unadulterated genius that would have been worth triple the price.

If you can hunt it down. Buy it.

Mike

PS: Now, anybody got any Katell Keineg?
Posted on: 01 August 2005 by Chris Kelly
Just stumbled across "My father's Face" by Leo Kottke, which for some reason had been consigned to the loft! Wonderful guitarist, amazing gruff voice! I have several of his CDs and they are all of a consistent high standard.
Posted on: 02 August 2005 by cider glider
Mike,

Thanks for the info, and the correction re her formula.

To correct my earlier post, it was John Leckie who insufficiently papal for M2oH.

Mark S
Posted on: 02 August 2005 by paul_g
Mark S - Sorry to be a pedant but I own Miss America on both CD & vinyl (despite no longer owning a turntable !) & I can find no reference to Daniel Lanois on either of the sleeve notes which state :-
"Produced by Mary Margaret O'Hara & Michael Brook ..... Executive Producer - Jody Colero".

Mike - whilst I'm in pedant mode, I have to point out that the correct acronym is "M2O'H" (apostrophised) Razz. Whatever .... it's one of my favourite albums of all time. I reckon it failed to attract the attention it deserved because many people confused her with the Irish harpist of similar name. Eek

I never seriously considered "Apartment Hunting" as I avoid soundtrack albums like the plague, but based on your recommendation I'll look it out - thanks (I think).

Paul
Posted on: 03 August 2005 by Bob Edwards
All--

Dumptruck is a great call--I have and love their stuff. Phenomenal live act.

The Pursuit of Happiness--Love Junk. Canadian band most famous for "I'm an Adult Now," though I love everything on Love Junk. A fun, tongue in cheek poke at love and relationships, with perhaps the best (yes, the BEST) snare sound ever recorded.

Best,

Bob
Posted on: 03 August 2005 by cider glider
Paul G

No need to apologise for pedantry! And you're right, Daniel Lanois made no contribution to Miss America, except in my fevered imagination.

In my defence, I'll say that both Lanois and M2OH are Canadian, and both Lanois and Brook have worked with Eno...unfortunately, these associations got the better of me.

Mark S