most appreciated, your system thoughts are....
Posted by: long-time-dead on 25 August 2003
OK Guys, down a well trodden path I go but your advice is most welcome as I follow my ears....
I am on the market for a new system to play music on. Sounds simple, but then there is the age old question of "her indoors".
Considerations have been
1) It must look good
2) It must look good
3) It must look good
4) It must look good
5) Do you need speakers ?
Having considered Cyrus equipment and not really been happy with it, I have turned to Naim as the "Glasgow Firm" produces kit that (quote my wife) "looks like a midi system".
I am sure that most of you have had that one thrown up before but at least I have the sense to tell her that MY first priority is listening to music and I will take her thoughts totally into consideration.......
To solve the question of looks I have had to bite the bullet and consider the Fraim - not the most financially sound move but at least the components are going to sit on the ideal platform, whatever they are and will be.......I have also to include my turntable (gasp!) in the equation and a wall-shelf is a no-no so another expensive level is the only answer.
Speakers have been given the green light already - floorstanding and maple (Allae). And believe me, that's a compromise ! Naim should take great pleasure in de-boxing the shape as the curved top sold them to her !!!
The only real problem is that the expense of this will limit the choice of "those black boxes" and this is where I ask for the benefits of your previous experiences before I sit down to listen at my local Naim dealer.
So the system will be :
CD5 / NAC 112 / NAP 150 / ALLAE
and as time prgresses, upgrades will be made.
Comments ?
I am on the market for a new system to play music on. Sounds simple, but then there is the age old question of "her indoors".
Considerations have been
1) It must look good
2) It must look good
3) It must look good
4) It must look good
5) Do you need speakers ?
Having considered Cyrus equipment and not really been happy with it, I have turned to Naim as the "Glasgow Firm" produces kit that (quote my wife) "looks like a midi system".
I am sure that most of you have had that one thrown up before but at least I have the sense to tell her that MY first priority is listening to music and I will take her thoughts totally into consideration.......
To solve the question of looks I have had to bite the bullet and consider the Fraim - not the most financially sound move but at least the components are going to sit on the ideal platform, whatever they are and will be.......I have also to include my turntable (gasp!) in the equation and a wall-shelf is a no-no so another expensive level is the only answer.
Speakers have been given the green light already - floorstanding and maple (Allae). And believe me, that's a compromise ! Naim should take great pleasure in de-boxing the shape as the curved top sold them to her !!!
The only real problem is that the expense of this will limit the choice of "those black boxes" and this is where I ask for the benefits of your previous experiences before I sit down to listen at my local Naim dealer.
So the system will be :
CD5 / NAC 112 / NAP 150 / ALLAE
and as time prgresses, upgrades will be made.
Comments ?
Thanks for the reply guys, truly appreciated.
Wife not going to be at the dem until I decide "it's for me" (I think she might well be deaf !)
What is SWMBO ? A new kind of department store loyalty card ?
As for Flat Cap's etc., that will probably happen in time but it would need to encompass a new level for the Fraim with each new addition - not a problem but something for the future. I will need to negotiate the Phono MC install first
Room size is 5.11 metres x 3.5 metres and only a fireplace will be between the speakers. I have no real intention to "turn the volume to 11" but like a good blast of rock music now and then........
Once again, a million thanks.
Wife not going to be at the dem until I decide "it's for me" (I think she might well be deaf !)
What is SWMBO ? A new kind of department store loyalty card ?
As for Flat Cap's etc., that will probably happen in time but it would need to encompass a new level for the Fraim with each new addition - not a problem but something for the future. I will need to negotiate the Phono MC install first
Room size is 5.11 metres x 3.5 metres and only a fireplace will be between the speakers. I have no real intention to "turn the volume to 11" but like a good blast of rock music now and then........
Once again, a million thanks.
Hi Mick
Thanks for the insight - guess who is now feeling rather stupid for not working that one out and asking SWMBO for her idea on it's meaning.
Told her the answer - she says the bruises will heal in time and I should be lucky
Thanks for the insight - guess who is now feeling rather stupid for not working that one out and asking SWMBO for her idea on it's meaning.
Told her the answer - she says the bruises will heal in time and I should be lucky
prowla
Thanks for your sentiment but I feel that you have mis-understood things a little.
For us, Fraim is within budget and it is the ONLY rack SWHBO likes. Quote from SWMBO - "It's our living room not the shop you are buying the stuff from" ('nuff said !)
I appreciate that the addition of improved power supplies will certainly make things better in time but that will be a future upgrade
I will now refer to another post I made where racks were the debate to suggest that we should seriously consider equipment racks as a primary purchase as they have a great outcome on the "flavour" of a system. To that extent, the Fraim couldn't have come at a better time as it will allow each and every component and upgrade to reveal their true performance.
Saying that - each to their own !
Thanks for your sentiment but I feel that you have mis-understood things a little.
For us, Fraim is within budget and it is the ONLY rack SWHBO likes. Quote from SWMBO - "It's our living room not the shop you are buying the stuff from" ('nuff said !)
I appreciate that the addition of improved power supplies will certainly make things better in time but that will be a future upgrade
I will now refer to another post I made where racks were the debate to suggest that we should seriously consider equipment racks as a primary purchase as they have a great outcome on the "flavour" of a system. To that extent, the Fraim couldn't have come at a better time as it will allow each and every component and upgrade to reveal their true performance.
Saying that - each to their own !
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[This message was edited by Steven Toy on WEDNESDAY 27 August 2003 at 04:30.]
L'Oréal PARIS.
ELVIVE
FOR MEN
THICKENING SHAMPOO
NEW
R E S U L T S S H O W
[Thickening hair for better scalp coverage]
REGENIUM-XY
STRENGTHENS AND THICKENS HAIR MORE BODY, BETTER CONTROL
Fine, thinning hair
FREQUENT USE
Or you could just shave the lot off.
This just has to be a "Bobby Charlton" thread.
Regards,
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[This message was edited by Steven Toy on WEDNESDAY 27 August 2003 at 04:30.]
joe90
Agree to an extent but wife hates look of Intro's and loves Allae's - if she got her way I would have headphones !!!! (note to Mr Toy - imaginge BC with a pair of Stax on)
112 / 150 should be OK with Allae's - enough people in the forum use them happily enough as long as they are not "cranking it".
PSU upgrades etc., will follow in time - getting the kit in and installed will be the #1 priority.
I don't know where you buy your Naim kit but the electronics you suggested with the Intro2's would mean I would need another £1500 for my budget - want my address to send a cheque as I ain't got the money tree at the bottom of the garden ?
Agree to an extent but wife hates look of Intro's and loves Allae's - if she got her way I would have headphones !!!! (note to Mr Toy - imaginge BC with a pair of Stax on
)112 / 150 should be OK with Allae's - enough people in the forum use them happily enough as long as they are not "cranking it".
PSU upgrades etc., will follow in time - getting the kit in and installed will be the #1 priority.
I don't know where you buy your Naim kit but the electronics you suggested with the Intro2's would mean I would need another £1500 for my budget - want my address to send a cheque as I ain't got the money tree at the bottom of the garden ?
long-time-dead
If you've set your heart on a Fraim then I guess you'll be pretty sure that you'll have a good base for all future upgrades.
Hope it goes well.
(I can't help feeling that low-end Naim kit on a Fraim is a kindof son-of-mulletness though ...
)
Paul Rowlands
If you've set your heart on a Fraim then I guess you'll be pretty sure that you'll have a good base for all future upgrades.
Hope it goes well.
(I can't help feeling that low-end Naim kit on a Fraim is a kindof son-of-mulletness though ...
)Paul Rowlands
quote:
Originally posted by prowla:
(I can't help feeling that low-end Naim kit on a Fraim is a kindof son-of-mulletness though ...
Naim : Low-End ?
Kinda makes the "World Class Hi Fi" statement by Naim on their literature a bit OTT. IMO their base products are still superior to most manufacturers "hi-end" kit. I am sure the lads in Salisbury would agree !
Anyway, the rack was chosen for looks, not budget. I would have liked to have better kit but that will certainly come in time (I think a HiCap could be on the birthday wish-list)
Mulletness - not a known phenomenon north of the Border. Is it an upgrade that is recommended ?
low end ? 
joe90
I tend to find that upgrading the amount of time spent abroad in the sun with SWMBO and increasing the gold content of her jewellery box usually decreases the interference. Unfortunately, I tend to find this is a short term measure and only then kept in check by liberal application of soap (operas).
Your granite plinth idea sounds very interesting - is the application of this orally or very quickly on the top of the head ?
prowla
Racks - we never get the one we really wanted as the casting vote is never ours. Hence the Fraim in my case.......
Nice system !
Steven Toy
"Welcome" ? Nightie usually has "Don't even think about it".......
I tend to find that upgrading the amount of time spent abroad in the sun with SWMBO and increasing the gold content of her jewellery box usually decreases the interference. Unfortunately, I tend to find this is a short term measure and only then kept in check by liberal application of soap (operas).
Your granite plinth idea sounds very interesting - is the application of this orally or very quickly on the top of the head ?
prowla
Racks - we never get the one we really wanted as the casting vote is never ours. Hence the Fraim in my case.......
Nice system !
Steven Toy
"Welcome" ? Nightie usually has "Don't even think about it".......