One has to learn from age.

Posted by: Massimo Bertola on 18 June 2010

Hi,

tomorrow it's my 57th birthday, and I just wanted to post here my very likely last post.
This has nothing to do with mt health, nor with the forum, or the people in it. It is just that I have nothing more to say in it.

I more and more often read posts by people who are thrilled, excited, involved, emotionally stirred by their Naim system (or by any other system, for that), and have come to the point where I seem to be reading news from another planet. Much as I have changed gear (and some know I have done it!), I still find home audio essentially boring. I can't even begin to understand what kind of excitement can come out of loudspeakers, be it SBLs, Arivas, Black lacquered N-Sats, maple N-Sats, Marten Desing Miles II or 40-years old AR4x (my present sounding boxes). As for the cherry N-Sats, they're still in their cartons.
Nor can I understand what is the musical difference between a Nait1 and a 202/200, or - for that - my present, 2ndhand rega Mira from 2001. I have had all, and a Nait XS, a 140, a 90, an AV2, a 175... The song remains the same. I have had the DVD5, which costed 20 times my Oppo DV980H, and which is the only Naim box that Silvia has openly hated because, she said, It changed your mood. But, you know what? I have loved it too, a bit. Naim boxes have this quality, they make you feel you have more or less reached audio home.

It is not, so, about Naim. I still love Naim gear, in fact I have just bought my third pair of Sats and will probably buy a UnitiQute, for the very good reason that it will allow me maximization of sources and minimization of cables, other than being - appunto - Qute. But it will be motivated by aesthetical, technical and commercial reasons. With due respect to Naim, I still think that music has sadly very little to do with home audio. And, as I have written before, I still strongly support my own convinction (conviction?) that with Naim it is not emotional listening, but intellectual listening.

Posts about upgrades depress me: people who asks for suggestions about how to spend their money, and other people that buy for them.
Posts about how wonderful all this is, just stir my envy. My musical life is preserved in boredom like a corpse in formaline. If you find it strange, it's because I forgot to mention that the second most distant thing from music, except home audio, is musical education.
Posts against Naim annoy me, because I like the gear, its looks, its >sound<, the ideas behind it.

So, because with age a certain capacity to accept evidency must come, I have come to accept that I will nevertheless buy Naim because it is the only brand that comes close to not boring me to death, and whose boxes give a certain je ne sais pas quoi to the rest of the furniture.

Tomorrow I'll have to attend a marriage, but it is not mine. Hopefully, it may rain a bit - I hate marriages. I wish the UK team the best in the World Cup.

Have a nice weekend,

Massimo
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by Mike Dudley
quote:
tomorrow it's my 57th birthday, and I just wanted to post here my very likely last post.
This has nothing to do with mt health, nor with the forum, or the people in it. It is just that I have nothing more to say in it.
quote:


Oh. 'bye, then.
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by alidubai
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Originally posted by winkyincanada:
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Originally posted by Andy1912:
I have to agree with you about marraiges - I have found every wedding that I have ever attended (including my own) tiresome; self-indulgent and largely a waste of money :


I have found just the opposite. I have enjoyed every wedding I have attended, including my own today (especially). It takes a special brand of negative person to not enjoy and celebrate a wedding.


Winky, what are you doing here mate? you should be too busy to be here?
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by mongo
It takes a special brand of negative person to not enjoy and celebrate a wedding.[/QUOTE]

That specialist brand is called a realist Winky.

This kind of self indulgence is the preserve of silly young girls who haven'y yet left gagaagirlieworld.

And, forgive me, but I have to ask, what on earth are you doing here today????
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by JonR
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Originally posted by Andy1912:
I have to agree with you about marraiges - I have found every wedding that I have ever attended (including my own) tiresome; self-indulgent and largely a waste of money (and that money spent often for the worst of reasons).


Well...I hope your wife enjoyed it more than you did.

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A friend of a friend got married on one of the Scottish Islands (say Isla or Harris, somehwere like that) then the two of them went down to the beach and drank a bottle of whisky. Now that's what I call a proper wedding.... Cool


Sounds like a plan if I am ever fortunate enough to find myself in a position to get married. The type of wedding I'd personally prefer to avoid, though, is of the Cretan variety. On Crete the natives like to celebrate all sorts of joyous occasions in a very special way....by the liberal firing of .45s and other such weapons into the air. I think they use live rounds too, if the holes I remember seeing in Cretan church walls are anything to go by.
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by JonR
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Originally posted by Henk Bloem:
Tomorrow Holland will playing against Japan...also boring. I think I will go to the golf course, there will be much room to play. Drink a beer in the club house...may be this is boring for other people.


Holland are my pick in the office draw at work, so I will be watching.

Go the err...."Oranges" !!
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by BigH47
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I think they use live rounds too, if the holes I remember seeing in Cretan church walls are anything to go by.


They could also be the legacy of firing squads from WWII.
A friend from Crete was married in the UK her Greek visitors were really taken aback when asked to relinquish their weapons at Heathrow.
Many were also fined for smoking on the train.
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by mikeeschman
maxbertola, here is something to think about. Recalling the music you love from memory may wash away the boredom, if you can suppress analysis.

This requires no stereo, except for putting it in you. You can take it out without any utensils :-)
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by Massimo Bertola
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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
maxbertola, here is something to think about. Recalling the music you love from memory may wash away the boredom, if you can suppress analysis.

This requires no stereo, except for putting it in you. You can take it out without any utensils :-)


Thanks.
:-)

M.
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by 151
happy birthday Massimo, hope you had a good one.
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by Sloop John B
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Originally posted by maxbertola:
Hi,

tomorrow it's my 57th birthday, and I just wanted to post here my very likely last post.



HAPPY BIRTHDAY



SJB
Posted on: 19 June 2010 by Bruce Woodhouse
Maxerbertola

Perhaps you'll find more interst in music if you post in the Music Room. Your initial post (and others in the Forum) appears to be about kit and upgrades, in my experience little to do with emotion and musical engagement. Great music can certainly excite me played through the cheapest of low-fi equipment. Maybe I enjoy it more when played with great quality but it is never essential.

If you want to discover new music, or share your musical passions (and lets face it, the Forum is at its best a 2 way process) maybe could write about music rather than black boxes.

Bruce
Posted on: 20 June 2010 by Massimo Bertola
Bruce,

this is very true, and demonstrates the title of my thread.

I don't want to bore others with my biography. If I find a way to express my issues in form of simple questions, I'll post here. As for boxes, true - nothing much can be said there after a while.

Thanks for the greetings, it's been a nice day and even the marriage wasn't bad. It did rain, though.

Max
Posted on: 20 June 2010 by mikeeschman
max,

please start a music room thread on some favored composer, or some individual work. Let's see what we have to say to each other about music.
Posted on: 20 June 2010 by Massimo Bertola
Mike,

that's a nice idea. See you in the Music Room.

Max
Posted on: 20 June 2010 by Massimo Bertola
Stu,

I wish I would. Actually, I earn my living as a professor of Harmony and Counterpoint, which means I have a degree in musical composition. I used to play guitar and bass in my youth, and my studies have included a number of years of piano, which don't make me a pianist but allow me to play the piano decently.

I love jazz, and when I was ten my greatest desire was to become a drummer. It happened the very first time I saw Ringo's Ludwig.

Max