Guitars, Guitars!

Posted by: Stephen Bennett on 02 January 2002

Reading the guitar based posts on the hi-fi forum I thought I'd start a thread here to discuss guitars. I'm having a guitar love affair at the moment and I'd be interested in hearing what you other guitarists have & love & want. At the moment chez Bennett has;

An 80's Japananese squire strat which I love to death. Very nice indeed and better than some 'proper' Strats I've played.

A new Yamaha APX-7 acoustic/electric. This is just lovely, silky action nice, quiet, acoustic tone.

A Squire Precision bass. Not sure about this yet -it plays very nicely, but sounds a bit fluffy. Was 50 quid though!

A Yamaha Pacifica electric 12 string. Lovely jangly, well made, stays in tune. Not a Rickenbaker, but a nice guitar.

I used to own a Shergold 12 string/bass that I was going to cut in half. I didn't, Tony. It's happy & well & breaking the back of a friend.

Has anyone bought a '335' style guitar?

Regards

Stephen

[This message was edited by Stephen Bennett on WEDNESDAY 02 January 2002 at 12:19.]

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by JohanR
My collection is a bit humbler than yours.
- A Fernandes 50:s Les Paul copy. Better quality and finish than the real ones, I think.
- Yamaha beginner acoustic.
- El sheapo crap Fender bass copy from the 1970:s. Bent neck and all!

I never had the determination to learn to play properly, so it's most fetishism from me. Some jam's with friends is my main claim to faim (ones at a place where Jimi Hendrix played in 1969)!

JohanR

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Stephen Bennett
My lot are very humble too!

I played a Les Paul Studio recently.

Isn't Sweden lovely this time of year? I just got back from Goteborg - proper freezing, not like the wet slush here.

Guitar is not my main instrument, but I love them. I'm determined to play better this year too..

Regards

Stephen

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Stephen Bennett
quote:
also have a desire for an archtop, but can't justify it yet. Or maybe even at all. The decision is whether I buy several new guitars or get a 250

You have a great hi-fi. A 250 will be a small upgrade, but you can have the best of both worlds with the system you have & some new guitars. I played a Epi Casino last week, which I liked. I think I need a humbucker style guitar though. Not sure what to get - but it wont be a real Gibson 335 unfortunatly. Not keen on Les Pauls - lovely guitars but heavy & too 'rock' for my taste. I want feedback at '2'

Regards

Stephen

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Thomas K
I've had a number of acoustic and electric guitars, but the "stayer" is definitely my 1977 Martin D28. Bought it s/h in '88, complete with a crack in the soundboard (I was assured it wouldn't cause trouble and it hasn't). It's not always easy to play, and you can't adjust the action much - it doesn't have a metal rod in the neck, a manufacturing technique which apparently dates back to the war when steel was hard to come by. Supposedly this guitar once graced the wall of Gruhn guitars in Nashville.

Also have an 80s style Fender Strat with whammy bar, humbucker and 24-fret fingerboard. Must have been a short stint when Fender tried to compete with Charvel and other such makes. Now no one wants to buy it off me because "it's not a regular Strat".

Thomas

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Bosh
My collection consist of:

1992 Les Paul Standard (wine red) - I very nearly chopped this for a 335 following seeing Gary Moore in 2000 as I thought the 335 was much sweeter and clearer than the LP but his signature LP had the edge in 2001 and glad I didnt

1996 Fender US Strat plus (sb)

1999 Martin D16GT acoustic - prefer the mahogs to the rosewoods

Superbly setup by Music ground in Doncaster. Love them all but dont play them enough (through Fender Super 60 and POD)

Would love to add a 335, a PRS, a tele, etc., but the thought of having more to setup and restring puts me off, I need plug and play.

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Tony L
My humble collection: A Shergold Marathon bass and a Epiphone AJ10 acoustic.

In the foreground is the record that Mr Tibbs needs to check out his 401s - ‘Music For Percussion Volume One’ on the Gale record label….

Tony.

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by quincy
Fender USA Strat

Lowden LSE Stage Edition

Lowden O32

Yamaki Acoustic

Yoshi mandolin

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Mike Hanson
I've got two fretless basses: a Steinberger and an Ibenez. I've also got a nice Telecaster copy made by Hohner, but it's been on extended loan to a friend and I don't know whether I'll ever get it back. It's sad, really, as the fretboard on that guitar was wonderfully light and responsive. I've got to try to get hold of him again.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by richard goldsmith
I have had (too many?) numerous Strats over the years, but since 1994 have settled on a '94 US standard - lacks the character of the 50's/60's style instruments, but has its own character nevertheless, and is blessed with a flat camber fretboard and a consistency of sound all over the neck.

I also have a vintage '52 style Japanese squier Telecaster, which is fantastic!

Would love a 335 or Les Paul, but never got around to it, can't afford it, plus these ones are gathering enuff dust as it is! My only flirtation with Gibson was years ago with an SG, and the less said about that one, the better.

PS - I play these through a '59 reissue Bassman, and its "baby cousin" a tweed Pro-Junior. I'm still stuck on "old-style" Boss pedals - have assiduously ignored these all singing digital pedal thingys.

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by Peter C
My collection is as follows

1) Gibson Les Paul Standard
2) 1994 40th Anniversary Strat
3) American Deluxe Strat
4) PRS Santana SE
5) Taylor 415 Acoustic Guitar

The Electric Guitars are played through either a Marshall DSL 401 or Fender Blues Junior. Both Amps are all valve combo's

All 5 guitars are enjoyable to play.

Posted on: 02 January 2002 by David Dever
Stashed in various closets of Wolcott Estates:

Yamaha RBX-300 fretless bass (ok)
Yamaha BB-350 bass (main axe)
Danelectro 6/12-string doubleneck (if it won't break Jimmy Page's back, it won't hurt mine)
Fender '62 re-issue (Japanese, 1987) Telecaster (favorite axe, needs a re-fret badly)
Jackson RR7R Randy Rhoads 7-string (with wig and face paint to match)
and various cheap acoustics to flail strange houseguests with.

Lots of broken (or in desperate need of repair) tube amps, with stomp boxes stashed in the kitchen drawers (hopeless bachelor slob potential at work)...

Dave Dever

P.S. I'm just a keyboard player by training, easily befuddled by half-baked attempts at Steve Howe riffs in the late hours of the morning. Hopeless.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Ron Toolsie
Not quite as elaborate as some... but
1. Squire Stratocaster...replaced the weedy pickups with Dimarzio ones.
2. Gibson Showcase.. one of their made in Nashville stock. Double cutaway, ebony fretboard, extra hot EHG pickups, active tone controls. Weighs a ton.
3. Gibson Chet Atkins classical- beatiful tone, if somewhat suspect on the intonation.

The only (guitar) amp I have is late 60's Vibrosonic (a Twin Reverb, but with only a {reconed} single 15"JBL driver) brought up to 'black face spec' with the original 6550s replaced with EL34s and an adjustable bias trim added. Clean, clean, clean.

Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Tony L
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My eyes are out on stalks! This can't be the same Gale can it? I'll be needing a burn, just to assist in the restoration you understand!

It’s the same Gale. Ira Gale was I believe a percussionist, which is probably the reason that 401s do drums so well. He does not play on this record, but it is most certainly the same company. Gale also made the most amazing looking black and chrome high end turntable, it was a massive affair, the kind of thing that you could stick three arms on.

'Music for percussion volume one' dated from the mid 70s, and is a single 33rpm slab of very heavy vinyl, it comes in a box with a booklet and guarantee! Yes, the record is actually guaranteed. Unfortunately my copy is missing the booklet, but otherwise is in very good nick. The music is played by the Tristran Fry Percussion Ensemble and is conducted by John Elliot Gardner - I can't remember the composers. It is a stunning recording, and really deserves to be reissued. I will post a better picture of the cover later on your Gale thread.

I have no way of cutting it to CD, I could stick it on a cassette for you though as I still have a Walkman Pro somewhere. If you have a CD recorder you are welcome to bring it round!

quote:
BTW , can you tell what drivers I have from the photo's. - They are unmarked so I'm in none the wiser.

I can't really remember, I will have to check. Roger has two pairs, and he has not attempted to get into the current pair, the bass driver surround of the first pair perished. I have mentioned your thread to him so I guess he will be following in your footsteps restoration wise with his current pair.

Tony.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Duncan Fullerton
Can I ask a question of all you axe wielders out there?

I've decided that at my age and advanced hair loss, air guitar is not only somewhat degrading, it could also prove dangerous. I had this inkling before Christmas that 2002 would be a good year to pick up a bass for the first time. Well if I want to be a guitar god before I reach my dotage, I'd better start now!

A few things to bear in mind: I've never played any sort of guitar in my life and I'm not blessed with thin and nimble surgeons fingers. So, given that I may turn out to be as adept at playing a guitar as I am at standing on my head, spending vast amounts on some "Geddy Lee authentic original replica" bass would be a waste.

What would you guys recommend as a good beginners bass?

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Tony L
quote:
What would you guys recommend as a good beginners bass?

There are two schools of thought:

1) Buy a "real" bass - by this I mean getting a second hand Rickenbacker 4001 if Geddy Lee is the bass hero of choice. The reason for doing this is that well chosen second hand guitars are great investments, so if after a year or so you decide not to continue the whole exercise will have cost you absolutely nothing. Loot ( www.loot.com ) is the guitar shop with no middleman.

2) Buy a good "beginners" instrument - and for me this is a Fender Squire Precision or Jazz bass. They really are great instruments and more than give a taste of the much more expensive real thing. Both can be had for well under 200 quid.

Obviously you need a little bass amp too. Expect to pay 150-200 quid for a usable new one or far less for a second hand one. Marshall, Trace Elliot, Fender, Peavy all make good 'uns. Must come clean and admit that my bass amp is a Samson mixer / Nait 1 / Heybrook Point 5s! Sounds bloody good too. I sold my Trace Elliot amp as I never seemed to use it any more.

Tony.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Stephen Bennett
quote:
P.S. I'm just a keyboard player by training, easily befuddled by half-baked attempts at Steve Howe riffs in the late hours of the morning. Hopeless.

Now why does that sound familiar? And I just bought a steel guitar too:-)

quote:
Obviously you need a little bass amp too.

Or a bass POD or J-Station with Bass simulations if you want to keep it quiet.

Regards

Stephen

Anyone played the Epiphone Dot & Sheratons?

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Tony L
quote:
Or a bass POD or J-Station with Bass simulations if you want to keep it quiet.

Anyone tried the bass Pod yet? I am really interested in one of these if it can do a decent valve bass amp impression. I'm currently using a Zoom 508 which is IMHO a bit lame. I only use the Zoom to boost the signal a bit and add a little compression, the output of the Shergold is very low for a bass, so I definitely need something in front of the mixer.

Tony.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Stephen Bennett
I use a guitar POD, which I love. If the bass version is as good I'll be getting one soon. Though PODs are personal taste issues. I suggest you try one. Is Hesseys still there?

Stephen

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Tony L
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Is Hesseys still there?

No, along with Rushworths it hit the skids. Curly survived and has moved to a nicer and bigger shop, and we now have a Dawsons which is pretty good for the high tech kind of things.

The Pod sounds really good, I will check one out, one of my guitar playing friends is on the verge of buying the guitar one, so I will check that out.

The next music thing I want to buy is a acoustic guitar bass, though I am still very much at the research stage. I want something that is nice to play, affordable, and sounds good acoustically. I don't care what it sounds like through an amp as I have the Shergold for that. I just want something to play along with records in the front room!

Tony.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Stephen Bennett
Tony, a friend has a rather nice Vintage Acoustic bass circa £250. It sounds nice acoustic & OK plugged in too.

Regards

Stephen

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by garyi
I used to own a Honer Steinburger Bass (I know its spelt wrong) Man that was my baby. It was gloss black finish with EMG active pickups. Like a twat I sold it for 120 quid so that I could buy some crap new bass which I never liked.

To appease myself I had made for me by an old next door neighbour a fender style bass. This was the most gorgeous thing I ever owned. It took him four mounths, was solid ash with ebony fret, PJ switchable active pickups and chrome hard ware. It weighed a tonne but the sounds you could get out of that thing!

I sold it for 360 quid in a desperate bid to buy a plane ticket to see a girl I had met in majoca, she dumped my as soon as I arrived.

Twat so I am, too rub salt into the wound I often see the guy I sold it too playing, he loves it too much to sell back.

twat twat twat.

I'm off to cry.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Tony L
quote:
twat twat twat.

I'm off to cry.


I feel your pain, I once sold one of these…

twat twat twat.

I'm off to cry.

Tony.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Stephen Bennett
Tony!!

yer daft 'haipeth

I sold a mimimoog (hangs head in shame) and a C3 and a Rhodes!

stephen

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by bob atherton
I sold my treasured Rickenbacker 4001 to pay my rates years ago ( Chris Squire was my hero). I busted a gut to be able to buy it as well......
Anyway I've got a nice specially made Overwater now. It's actually better IMHO, but I still miss the Ricky.

Bob frown

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by J.N.
Like Stephen; I've owned a genuine USA 'Strat' in the past, and I reckon my Japanese Squier Tele plays every bit as well.

Heresy?

By the way Stephen, I've heard about that new 150, you naughty boy!