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Posted by: Stephen Bennett on 02 January 2002

Reading the guitar based posts on the hi-fi forum I thought I'd start a thread here to discuss guitars. I'm having a guitar love affair at the moment and I'd be interested in hearing what you other guitarists have & love & want. At the moment chez Bennett has;

An 80's Japananese squire strat which I love to death. Very nice indeed and better than some 'proper' Strats I've played.

A new Yamaha APX-7 acoustic/electric. This is just lovely, silky action nice, quiet, acoustic tone.

A Squire Precision bass. Not sure about this yet -it plays very nicely, but sounds a bit fluffy. Was 50 quid though!

A Yamaha Pacifica electric 12 string. Lovely jangly, well made, stays in tune. Not a Rickenbaker, but a nice guitar.

I used to own a Shergold 12 string/bass that I was going to cut in half. I didn't, Tony. It's happy & well & breaking the back of a friend.

Has anyone bought a '335' style guitar?

Regards

Stephen

[This message was edited by Stephen Bennett on WEDNESDAY 02 January 2002 at 12:19.]

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Stephen Bennett
Tony!!

yer daft 'haipeth

I sold a mimimoog (hangs head in shame) and a C3 and a Rhodes!

stephen

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by bob atherton
I sold my treasured Rickenbacker 4001 to pay my rates years ago ( Chris Squire was my hero). I busted a gut to be able to buy it as well......
Anyway I've got a nice specially made Overwater now. It's actually better IMHO, but I still miss the Ricky.

Bob frown

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by J.N.
Like Stephen; I've owned a genuine USA 'Strat' in the past, and I reckon my Japanese Squier Tele plays every bit as well.

Heresy?

By the way Stephen, I've heard about that new 150, you naughty boy!

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by Former member
Quote Tony:

I have no way of cutting it to CD, I could stick it on a cassette for you though as I
still have a Walkman Pro somewhere. If you have a CD recorder you are welcome to
bring it round!

Tony,
Shame about the lack of cutting facilities, pretty much akin to my tape replay facilities I might add and unfortunately Funkytown is right on the known edge of The flat earth so that's a bloody bummer too.
Still it's the thought that counts, maybe one day I'll set off across the great divide - many worthy people seem to exist there.

Mr Tibbs.

Posted on: 03 January 2002 by richard goldsmith
Ron Toolsie said:

"Squire Stratocaster...replaced the weedy pickups with Dimarzio ones."

Obviously I can't comment on your specific guitar and some Squiers may well have weedy sounding pickups. Also, it comes down to personal taste. However, the various Fenders (including Jap Squiers) I've owned have had good sounding pickups, and it is often misconceived IMO to replace "weedy" pickups for "hot" sounding devices, especially the Dimarzios and Duncans of yore. I don't know what Dimarzios are like these days, but years ago they were the weapon of choice, along with brass saddles and nuts. Most of such modifications were eventually reversed when players realised something had been lost in the sound. Sure, the gain might be higher, but the inherent Fender tone (especially those lovely highs) gets lost for bloated mid and thrust.

BTW, love those old Vibrosonics with the orange JBL - they make a hell of a pedal steel amp too!

Posted on: 04 January 2002 by P

I WISH!!!!

P

Posted on: 04 January 2002 by Former member
Hi Guys, Happy new year.

I own a 1937, Style O, National guitar. This was purchased by my father in 1939 for the princely sum of nine pounds, including case, I still have the receipt. Mind you in 1939 nine pounds was alot of money for a working class man. The guitar is in superb condition for its age and sounds wonderful. I plan to learn to play bottle neck blues on it when I retire.

Graham. cool

Posted on: 04 January 2002 by Thomas K
I think the biscuit definitely goes to you. I am envious.

Thomas

Posted on: 04 January 2002 by Former member
I bought a 4001 some twenty odd years ago hoping to recreate the large nosed one. I still like Rush and I still love the 4001, but still cant play anything like him. Buy one even if you cant play it, it will always look fabulous
Posted on: 07 January 2002 by Chris L
Well, here's my humble collection:

80's Tokai Strat (my everyday "hack")

60's Hofner Committee (all mother of pearl and bird's eye maple!)

60's Hofner Club 40 (bit of a state, but plays okay)

60's Baldwin Burns Vibraslim

60's Baldwin Burns Baby Bison

Hayman 2020 - not sure of age, and desperately needs refret :-(

90's Burns Marvin (one of limited run of 18 made by Jack Golder - extremely rare green sunburst)

70's Fender Telecaster - in rare white ash finish.

All these are used through a Marshall Valvestate 2000 AVT50 combo amp.

And I still want: room to display them all :-(

Chris L

Posted on: 07 January 2002 by Tony L
quote:
60's Baldwin Burns Vibraslim

60's Baldwin Burns Baby Bison

Hayman 2020 - not sure of age, and desperately needs refret :-(

90's Burns Marvin (one of limited run of 18 made by Jack Golder - extremely rare green sunburst)


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

Tony.

PS Post pictures.

Posted on: 07 January 2002 by Chris L
I will, in fact I intend to put up a web page with piccies and other info as I get time.

In fact, the main thing I'm waiting for is a digital camera, which I'm hoping will be delivered today or tomorrow.

Will post a link when the piccies are available.

Chris L

Posted on: 08 January 2002 by Chris L
Tony, and anyone else interested, I've put up some initial photos of my guitars at:

Chris' Guitars

Excuse the dubious quality, put it down to inexperience and an extremely cheap digital camera smile

Chris

Posted on: 08 January 2002 by bob atherton
Looking at your guitar collection was truly a trouser tightening experience. As a bass player I admire your collection, but if the Burns were basses I would be sooooooo envious.

Hope you get round to playing them all from time to time. I sold a rare 1936 Gibson (The Gibson guitar & banjo co)6 string guitar/banjo to Steve Howe many moons ago. His collection was so vast I don't believe that he played half of them.

Bob.

Posted on: 08 January 2002 by Chris L
P,
quote:
I once owned a very strange little Burns guitar

Could have been a Sonic, Vista-Sonic or a Nu-Sonic, or even a Flyte - all looked rather wierd, and had pretty low-power pickups, that were VERY prone to feedback - but not as much as my all time favourite: the early, four pick-up Bison! (I've got pics if you're interested)


Bob,
I don't get to play them as much as I'd like - for some reason these people that give me money every month seem to want me to work for them, or something - takes up a lot of my time frown

Chris

Posted on: 10 January 2002 by Former member
Well, I did it - I bought a Yamaha SG2000 at the weekend - you can see a photo at the www.machinehead.co.uk website - it is the one with a ding in it for £849 (incl Hiscox Case).

I am one very happy bunny - the ebony fingerboard is slippery smooth and the action is lower than a gnats b*ll*cks. Shame I am such a crap player really ...

Posted on: 10 January 2002 by Chris L
quote:
Shame I am such a crap player really ...

Na, the way to look at it is that you now have an even better way to pretend to play air-guitar, using a real one!

That's a nice axe tho'. I always wanted one of the 70's SG3000's, lovely guitars, and with the long term reliability and stability you from a quality Japanese instrument.

Ah well, maybe sometime.

Chris L

Posted on: 10 January 2002 by Tony L
quote:
Well, I did it - I bought a Yamaha SG2000 at the weekend - you can see a photo at the www.machinehead.co.uk website...

Didn't notice the Yam, but I've just bought the Shergold Marathon fretless!

Cheers!

Tony.

Posted on: 10 January 2002 by Former member
Tony,

Gosh, this shop must be doing well at the moment! Your bass looks very cool in an understated kind of way.

Dozy

Posted on: 10 January 2002 by Tony L
quote:
Gosh, this shop must be doing well at the moment!

If the Marathon fretless is in anywhere near the condition it appears to be in the picture it is a bargain. I have had a wanted ad for one on the unofficial but brilliant Shergold site www.shergold.co.uk for ages, and have had a couple of basses offered to me as a result, all more expensive and in obviously worse condition (i.e. visible dings, no bridge cover).

This bass will go nicely with my standard fretted Marathon, a picture of which is earlier on this thread. I just hope they pack it well.

Tony.

Posted on: 10 January 2002 by Dave J
Hi guys

There's a lot of tasty equipment out there in Naim land. What's everyone doing with it? Frustrated bedroom guitarists? Any gigging musicians? Who's playing what and where?

My gear consists of Fender American Deluxe Strat, Fender Mexican Standard Strat (only a cheapo Mexican but recently set up and plays a treat), Laney 15watt valve & Spider 50watt combo's, Hohner acoustic, Pearl export kit, Ludwig 6½" brass shell snare, lots of Zildjians (10"-20"), Yamaha electronic practise kit.

Used to take the whole thing very seriously when I was younger but the pressures of own business and children have over the years driven me into the spare room or the odd, occasionally very odd, noodling along to the hi-fi.

Cheers

Dave J

Posted on: 11 January 2002 by Tony L
quote:
There's a lot of tasty equipment out there in Naim land. What's everyone doing with it? Frustrated bedroom guitarists? Any gigging musicians?

I did a fair bit of this kind of stuff years ago (mid 80s - early 90s), I was in a obscure indie band which got to the stage of supporting half decent bands at uni gigs all over the place / put a couple of records out / got some Peel play, but we didn't really get further than that. I later started doing bizarre dance and techno stuff (we sampled Can!), almost got signed a couple of times, but didn't. During all this time I financed myself largely by working in studios, buying and selling rare vinyl / analogue synths, setting up guitars, in fact anything I could blag my way in without having to get a "real" job.

I later set up a project studio as a half assed business venture with a friend (who has managed to stay in the industry), but after a year it wasn't making as much money as we wanted, so I bailed out and started working in IT and my friend went and got a sound technology degree.

I'm now a totally happy and non-frustrated bedroom bassist - I really don't fancy getting out and gigging anymore. I've done my time rattling about in the back of a Transit van for hours with drums and amps falling on my head just to play to 17 bemused students 200 miles away… (though I wouldn't have missed it for the world!).

Tony.

Posted on: 12 January 2002 by Tony L
My new Shergold fretless arrived. Machinehead had done a fabulous job of packing, so it arrived completely unscathed. The bass is in absolutely stunning condition, barely a mark on it, I would rate it at least 9.5 / 10. The condition is astonishing for a 20+ year old instrument. Its previous owner must have either loved it dearly, or hated it so much they never touched it, I suspect the latter as the fingerboard is pristine (and its not been refinished). The finish is really cool (the photo does not do the high gloss natural wood body justice). I now own the two best condition Shergold basses I have ever set eyes on! As with anything Shergold it plays like a dream. Jack Golder new how to make a really straight and playable neck, so it is very easy to get the action on both basses really low and fast.

I have never played a fretless without fret markers before, boy is it scary adapting to that! My ability to play off key and out of tune is now almost limitless. By saying that, even though I’ve only had it since last night I feel I am slowly getting the hang of it – there are dot markers on the binding so I’m not flying completely blind. This bass brings a whole new meaning to playing by ear, the left hand has to be so accurate, missing by a tiny amount really sounds out. Means you don’t have to tune up to a record though! I recon learning this will really improve my playing generally, the extra precision can’t but help.

Any other fretless players out there? Any playing tips?

Thanks once again for the Machinehead link, I’ve been after a fretless Shergold for years, I never imagined I would land such a good one.

Tony.

Posted on: 12 January 2002 by Clive B
I have a 1959 ES-335 which I found in 1980 for £650. I was in the guitar shop and just asked to try it, it being well outside my budget (in fact I don't think I'd intended to buy anyway). Well, it was so easy - it virtually played itself. So I traded in two other electrics (a Yamaha "something or other numbered 200" (SG200?) and a beautiful Fender Mustang (a la Todd Rundgren). It was sad to see the Fender go, but I just had to have the 335! I'm sure you'd understand.

I sold a Martin D18 some years back to justify buying TWO HiCaps for the 82 I had at the time.

Trouble is that now I think I'd like another acoustic, but one that plays like the 335. And that would mean selling the 335.

Any suggestions for a fast acoustic?

Regards, CB

Posted on: 13 January 2002 by Chris L
Clive,
quote:
Any suggestions for a fast acoustic?

I'd suggest you take a look at Takamine acoustics. I've never owned one, but I've played several, and they were all easy to play, even for me, and I've only owned electrics for the last 15 years.

Tony,
The fretless looks very nice, I bet you're chuffed!

If you're interested in some Burns info, take a look at:
Burns Guitat Museum

Some good stuff there.

Chris L