Mice and spiders....

Posted by: Sicey on 04 August 2005

Since moving back into the country we seem to be inendated with creatures.
Have already had mouse catcher round once and he appeared to have done the job as the mouse/mice took the bait, but 6 weeks later we have another little blighter lurking in the kitchen somewhere, seriously tempted to get cat now, think kids will love having a pet around and am sure he/she will be good deterent for rodents.
On the 2nd point we seem to have an awful lot of spiders coming into the house and setting up camp in every nook and cranny, have tried feather duster but that only keeps them at bay for a day or so, does anyone know if you can buy some sort of deterent spray that will put them off in future?

Regards,

John
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by Bruce Woodhouse
Welcome to the country, flora and fauna are part of the fun. We've had toads in the kitchen, a duck that likes to be fed in the hallway, a variety of birds dropping down the chimney as well as an impressive collection of rodents and insects. Just enjoy!

What is wrong with spiders by the way?

Bruce

...and the best way to get rid of mice is to wander around the house and look where they get in, cover those airbricks with wire mesh, fix any cracks or gaps bigger than your little finger width (even if they are up on the wall some distance).
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by Tony Lockhart
Buy a cat.

Tony
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by Nime
It's amazing how many people leave outside doors wide open and then expect the wildlife to ignore the invitation. Don't have bird tables near the house and don't overload them either or you'll collect rats and mice from all over. Don't put food on the compost heap for them either. Vegetable matter only!

The previous owner of our present house used to say to neighbours that mouse droppings would float to the surface of the milk on his cereal. In fact we found about a cubic meter of mouse nesting material scavenged from all over the house above and below kitchen cupboards and in the ceilings and roof space. They liked to chew the exposed electricity cables too!

Once the mice were gone and the house tightened up we haven't been bothered again in years. The council rat catcher never believes us when we say we haven't any since everybody else has. Our lean-to conservatory has hinged, small-mesh wire inner doors in alloy frames to allow complete ventilation without rats, mice and toads getting in. But beneficial insects like the small, wasp-like, hover flies can get in to the plants. The doors probably help to keep other uninvited guests out too.

A female cat is usually a better hunter than a lazy male who only thinks about eating, sleeping, fighting and making kittens. But a female will actually produce dozens of kittens unless "seen to" by the vet early on. Feed her well and she'll be a far better mouser than the millions of starving farm cats who die young. Often too ill and weak to catch anything.

We keep plain net curtains stretched tightly across any open windows to keep insects out and are very rarely bothered by them. The odd fly which gets past the defenses is swiftly despatched with a plastic fly swat. One swat to each room saves having to fetch them and then lose the fly in the meantime. The few spiders we find are caught in a drinking glass. A postcard slid carefully under them to avoid injury and then they are sent outdoors again. They will starve indoors where there is no prey.

I remember a short summer holiday in rural Cornwall as a child. Waking to find the bedroom ceiling and upper walls almost black with insects. I quickly hid under the covers and couldn't sleep for hours. Smile
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by Steve Bull
Never had a problem with mice in the house, but the cat takes care of spiders pretty effectively.

Steve.
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by garyi
We live in a cottage built in the 1700s. I have never seen so may spiders in my life, they are every where from little things up to ones that actually scare the shit out of me.

Still, keeps the flies down and one thing is for sure, you ain't gonna get rid of spiders, what you can see is surely the thin edge of the wedge.
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bull:
Never had a problem with mice in the house, but the cat takes care of spiders pretty effectively.


Most cats WILL eat spiders Smile

That said, spiders are good - they eat flies. Whilst I have an aversion to killing small defenceless animals and EVEN insects, I *hate* flies and wasps with a passion as they go for my eyes (due to my contact lens drops).

The pesky little sods are almost impossible to swat if you have nystagmus - grrrr!
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Hammerhead
There are only two insects I detest out here in the country:
Tics
Horse flies.

A horse fly bit bit me on the hand a couple of weeks back and said hand swelled up like a boxing glove. Very painfull!

Spiders are cool :-)

Steve
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Aiken Drum
Our cats augment their diets with mice and spiders and as a consequence reduce the cat food bill.

One carried a live rabbit home the other day and brought it though an open window to show us. A nice gesture perhaps, but it was a bugger to catch.

Spiders in a house is a good thing - it means you have a dry house. But - it doesn't meant to say you have to like them.

Welcome to the countryside.

B
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Stephen B
I don't mind spiders as long as they stay outside. I'd feel very uncomfortable going to bed knowing that one was running around the room at night.

Since filling in as many gaps and cracks as I can find (e.g around waste pipes etc) I've had much fewer this year.
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by j8hn
We had two huge cats and were over-run with mice. My girlfriend bought one of those plug-in patent electronic scarers from an Innovations style catalogue. Cynical old me laughed and asked how she could waste money on such plastic crap. She plugged it in tuned it up and we never had mice again, whilst I ate humble pie. It cost around £20 it's an awful tacky plastic thing that plugs into the mains and has what looks like a piezo super tweeter which I presume emits ultra sonics. It also keeps most insects; wood lice, blue bottles etc., at bay too.
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Stuart M
DEATH LAC

A bit like fly/insect killer but if you spray it on a surface it forms an invisable coat and if the spiders walk over it bye bye.

Can be good on floors under outside doors or corners where you have investations.

My mum has used this to great success, I've got two cats so no need in my case.
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by Yeldarb:

Spiders in a house is a good thing - it means you have a dry house.

B


I'm surprised to hear this. I know of a damp and ancient pub cellar right beside a regularly flooding river and a leaky canal which has the largest spiders in England, bar none. Eek
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
We live in a cottage built in the 1700s. I have never seen so may spiders in my life, they are every where from little things up to ones that actually scare the shit out of me.

Still, keeps the flies down and one thing is for sure, you ain't gonna get rid of spiders, what you can see is surely the thin edge of the wedge.


This would appear to be the case even in my relatively modern (1990's-built) house. Spiders are a regular occurance, again like garyi says from small ones that hang discretely round the ceiling of my bathroom to one particularly fearsome looking house spider that suddenly came crawling out from underneath one of my system racks! I could have sworn I could see the hairs on its legs it was so big!

Then there's the thinner creepier looking thing that was still must have been a couple of inches in diameter, that hung on its web as if standing sentry outside my bathroom the other night. Fortunately by the morning it had disappeared...

Eek

Cheers,

Jon
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Reginald Halliday
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Woodhouse:
......a duck that likes to be fed in the hallway.........

Now that I would like to see. A less offensive 'pest' I cannot imagine. We had a raven in our garden (my granddaughter named him 'Ock' for obvious reasons)who demanded to be fed with wholemeal toast. Not white bread, mind - wholemeal only. He went away one summer, and we rather miss him.
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Sicey
I have nothing against spiders personally apart from them putting webs everywhere ie. behind my speakers etc!
Its just a PITA keeping the place clean with spiders in every nook and cranny.
Wife is off down the RSPCA in morning to look at some young mouse catchers Smile
Posted on: 06 August 2005 by andy c
I don't do killing spiders as they are good at catching flies - I just eject them outside onto me back garden. Same with ladybirds. flies get it big style inside our abode, tho. My wife wanders round with fly killer and even me and the cat stay out of the way when that happens.

Only things I use in the garden is slug killer and protection for my trees to prevent lice and rot, but other than that ...
Posted on: 06 August 2005 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by andy c:
Only things I use in the garden is slug killer ...


Beer traps are far more effective at catching slugs. It's what danish beer was invented for. Winker

If a hedgehog eats a poisoned slug it will probably do more harm than a drunken slug.

The same with fly spray. Who wants to breathe a chemical cocktail for a couple of hours? A plastic swat and a vicious killer instinct is great therapy after hard day on the forum. Make sure you close the lid of your Linn first though. Big Grin
Posted on: 06 August 2005 by Stephen B
I usually get flies with the Dyson.

I remember seeing a gardening program that suggested putting an upturned wooden box resting on brick somewhere hidden in the corner of the garden, the idea being to provide shelter for a family of hedgehogs which would help keep the number of slugs down.
Posted on: 06 August 2005 by Lomo
You can't call it your castle.
It is a hospitality inn for all forms of wildlife who have learnt to live with and off mankind over the centuries.
In the tropics we have a range of gheckos and cockroaches, cane toads in the garden and termites in the foundations..
Pest exterminators are flatout and fly swatters are all the go.
Mind you if we look at it logically we are probably the biggest pests of all with our environmental tactics but that is another story.
Posted on: 07 August 2005 by MichaelC
We have plenty of spiders at home, but beware. A couple of years ago a spider set up home in one of the alarm sensors and set the alarm off!
Posted on: 09 August 2005 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead:
A horse fly bit bit me on the hand a couple of weeks back and said hand swelled up like a boxing glove.


Steve - forgot about THEM! One bit me on my ankle in 2001, and the damn thing swelled up so much I had to walk with a stick for 3 days...

Since I WOULDN'T pay £45 for one (the cheapest anywhere in Reading had) I went to Bitz Bizarre and got an African skull stick (about 5 feet tall) for £8 and used that instead. If anyone in the town centre took the pee, I pretended to put a curse on them - very amusing indeed.

Apart from that damn swollen foot!

(I still have the stick btw Winker)