CDX2/XPS2 issues

It is not unusual for XPSs to hum - mine does at different rates thru the day. I had thought that the hum rate had been reduced in the II model -

Derek

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Is the flashing thing not just a choice of view, hit the display button a few times and mabye it'll bugger off, I am sure it was the case with my CD3 anyhow.

Oh how I wish it were true!!!

Derek, I can accept an occasional hum but what's with the vibration? I mean this was loud enough to be noticeable with the TV on at a reasonable volume.

Garyi, my display is set so that it only flashes up when the tracks change (or so I thought). Now it lights up temporarily every time it hits an index point. No problem with that in theory but what's the point if I can't actually start the CD player at an index point either via the remote or the front panel? Effectively, it's telling me something of no use whatsoever unless Naim have some magical way of CDPs accessing index points within tracks that we don't know of?

Where's an Administrator when you need one???

Mike, have you tried switching off completely, leave for a few minutes, then powering up again to see if the display resets itself?

MIke

Only answering you to acknowledge your response - do not know. Get your pusher to come by and listen to the system or get a loaner from the dealer to compare.

Or send our good friends in Salisbury an email to open up a private discussion

Derek

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Hi Mike,

This is one of those legacy issues from the early days of CD. As anyone with a fair sized Classical CD collection will know, many early releases had what were called index points throughout the disc. These were separate to the usual track numbers and facilitated finding points within a very long piece of music. Only a few machines actually took advantage of the index points and as such the feature faded away but remained a part of the Red Book standard. Our software is written in such a way that it will recognise not only track numbers but also any embedded index points as well. Sadly, like just about every other CD player maker these days, we haven't enabled the option to actually access the index points.... It's irrelevant to most users apart from perhaps you, me and a few others who have some of the few discs so authored.

I hope this helps explain things for you.

Richard

I had a similar experience to Mike with my CD5 at the weekend.

Whilst I was listening to the RW live in Knebworth CD the track number came up on the display in the gap between tracks and stayed there for the whole time RW was talking (30 odd seconds a time)I was unable to turn it off using the disp button. Also there was not a track time etc just the track number i.e 5 when continually pressing the disp button.

Is this another type of index mark? It turned off as soon as the track finally kicked in.

Stevie

That is another undocumented feature. Through a number of keystrokes, you can access the IQ test feature. Circuitry in the CD5/CDX2/CDS3 is able to infer the IQ of any vocalist from their vocal patterns, it's a similar technique to graphology. How did Robbie score?

It was unsure. If I remember correctly it was not much higher than 12.... sounds about right

Stevie

Richard et al,

Thanks for the responses. I have to say that the index point thing is irritating, particularly if you like the display to do little more than tell you when the next track is starting.

It does occur to me that, as we're moving away from Red Book standards by adopting PIC upgrades etc. then why not either abandon index points too or upgrade that remote so you can access them? Incidentally, Richard, what's this about a new remote for the CDi. Does this replace Narcom? Is it better? Can we have one?

Just to clarify for others who have kindly contributed:

My display doesn't stay on (I would be very grumpy if it did). The index points just flash up momentarily like the track numbers so, as Richard has confirmed, there is no need to try and reset my display. It's fine - but irritating.

Steve D. - may I suggest your CDP has a problem or a problem disk at the very least?

I like the idea of it being a measure of IQ though. The consequences of that could be very entertaining. Would it go up or down on live recordings when guests arrived on stage? Would you be able to tell when a particularly thick guitarist was no longer playing the overdubs. Doh, this could get complex. I know what we need - index points for each IQ change!!!

Derek - I'm a bit worried about this pusher and dealer business. What could you be implying sir? If you lived were I lived you wouldn't need drugs! It's surreal enough thanks.

May I strongly reccommend to you all that you don't buy Mingus CDs if index points are likely to irritate you too. Every ten seconds on some parts of Tijuana Moods!!!

The hum and vibration on my XPS2 concerns me even more though and I don't seem to be getting an answer. Is this really normal?
I am half expecting my display to flash up "Yes" the way this is going!!!

Mike

Mike

I am implying that you are in the early stages of hifi addiction and that you should consult with the person who has supplied you to determine that the product is performing to spec

Lots of <g> <g>

Derek

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Mike

If you changed out the A400 and ES11's you'd be listening to music instead of watching the cd display

Jay

Did someone mention ES11's? Ah no danger, Steve won't be reading this anyway.

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

Actually, I'm in the more mature stage of my addiction thanks Derek although I'm not sure my dealer (Audio Counsel in Oldham) would appreciate being called a pusher. Couldn't be further from the truth.

Jay, believe me. I am listening to music. The long-term plan is spurs first then goodbye A400 (250,200 or... well, that can wait!) but get rid of the ES11s - never! I've had more out of them in the past year than I have had in the past 13 (thanks Naim) and I know there's more to come.

Now... about that XPS2 buzz. Just admit it. None of you care do you?

Mike

XPS2 buzz - yes I cared and suggested that you try it at the dealer and/or borrow another one to try at home.

Both ways will identify whether the problem is due to your room, placement in room, stand, mains or specific XPS2

The XPS2 cannot be very old - it should still be under warranty and if your are not satisfied with it your first place to get the problem fixed is your dealer.

Derek

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The hum and vibration on my XPS2 concerns me even more though and I don't seem to be getting an answer. Is this really normal?

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Mike I had a thread about this a couple of weeks ago. My XPS2 humms significantly more than my SC/135's etc. My dealer came round last Friday (to loan me a CDS3 amongst other things) and brought a spare XPS2 with him to try, typically whilst he was here the XPS2 was quiet as a mouse (ok a mouse humming to itself, but quiet all the same). The dealer (Audio Councel Cheadle) suggested that if the noise was not constant it was unlikely to be a problem and was just suceptable to mains/earth noise.

Hence the spur idea may be the most likely solution

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I am listening to music.

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I can believe you - that's a great front end

My friend Chopper would agree with you on the ES11's. They deserve a bit of a hammering, which he does quite often I believe!

Jay