Standby Mode?
Posted by: u5227470736789439 on 13 March 2006
Dear Friends,
On the Radio (R4) at noon today was an item about standy and the huge energy wastage that apparently occurs because people use standby rather than unplugging.
The thought occured to me that the few watts required to leave our kit just turned on is nothing compared to the waste involved in keeping the heating turned up to an extra degree. I use 24 hour Naim central heating, and bloody cold the room is! Surely, in any case, all the waste is turned to heat, which is factored out with thermostatically controlled heating in the first place! If you use heating at all.
Any thoughts on this, as it strikes me as being as silly (PC rubbish again) as driving your hybrid (electric and petrol) car to the airpost and catching a jet to Miami or whatever. Surely we should shut off every secod street light and ban aircraft (in favour of ships) before worrying at the edges? Perspective please, Dear BBC!
Only a thought from Fredrik
On the Radio (R4) at noon today was an item about standy and the huge energy wastage that apparently occurs because people use standby rather than unplugging.
The thought occured to me that the few watts required to leave our kit just turned on is nothing compared to the waste involved in keeping the heating turned up to an extra degree. I use 24 hour Naim central heating, and bloody cold the room is! Surely, in any case, all the waste is turned to heat, which is factored out with thermostatically controlled heating in the first place! If you use heating at all.
Any thoughts on this, as it strikes me as being as silly (PC rubbish again) as driving your hybrid (electric and petrol) car to the airpost and catching a jet to Miami or whatever. Surely we should shut off every secod street light and ban aircraft (in favour of ships) before worrying at the edges? Perspective please, Dear BBC!
Only a thought from Fredrik
Fredrik,
I'd feel a bit embarrassed about answering your question, seeing I work out here......
I've always wondered what the average oily felt about the environment or global warming or saving energy.....while at the same time spew thousands of cubic metres of gas into the atmosphere up the flare, or several tonnes of oil into the sea in the produced water over-board.....
Yes, all this PC rubbish is getting out of hand these days, but if we all want to do something for the environment it should be aimed at the Americans.....they just don't care, and neither does their government!!
But, to get back on topic, we always switch our telly off instead of leaving it on standby every night, not just when we're going away.... Although I draw the line at the stereo.....
But by all means, please, keep your heating UP.......don't buy those hybrid cars that'll never satisfy your petrol head urges.....burn the midnight oil at both ends so to speak....why....???
'cos you'll all keep me in a job!!
Cheers,
Ali
I'd feel a bit embarrassed about answering your question, seeing I work out here......
I've always wondered what the average oily felt about the environment or global warming or saving energy.....while at the same time spew thousands of cubic metres of gas into the atmosphere up the flare, or several tonnes of oil into the sea in the produced water over-board.....
Yes, all this PC rubbish is getting out of hand these days, but if we all want to do something for the environment it should be aimed at the Americans.....they just don't care, and neither does their government!!
But, to get back on topic, we always switch our telly off instead of leaving it on standby every night, not just when we're going away.... Although I draw the line at the stereo.....
But by all means, please, keep your heating UP.......don't buy those hybrid cars that'll never satisfy your petrol head urges.....burn the midnight oil at both ends so to speak....why....???
'cos you'll all keep me in a job!!
Cheers,
Ali
Oh, and last night I saw a wave lick the top of the leg you can see on the right.... 
I'm due home on Wednesday and that isn't looking likely - bloomin typical....we gained a couple of days at the start of the trip due to the snow, just to pay them back at the end.......
Bugger.
I'm due home on Wednesday and that isn't looking likely - bloomin typical....we gained a couple of days at the start of the trip due to the snow, just to pay them back at the end.......
Bugger.
Fredrik,
you are a gentleman, and thank you for your thoughts.
Yes I do remember your tale....us humans really are a funny old lot aren't we.....
Don't let the bastards get you down!!
I'd imagine you are sleeping like a baby at the moment after enjoying your vodka, from one of your Poles, a generous gift indeed. I've found the same with Gin, which was also a gift, except this Gin came from Holland......made an excellent G&T.....
Cheers,
Ali
- I'll look forward to mine, first drink, on Thursday now......
you are a gentleman, and thank you for your thoughts.
Yes I do remember your tale....us humans really are a funny old lot aren't we.....
Don't let the bastards get you down!!
I'd imagine you are sleeping like a baby at the moment after enjoying your vodka, from one of your Poles, a generous gift indeed. I've found the same with Gin, which was also a gift, except this Gin came from Holland......made an excellent G&T.....
Cheers,
Ali
- I'll look forward to mine, first drink, on Thursday now......
Regarding heat/waste; for a while I even considered using tube amping to get some more heat in my cold listening room in the basement. I got Naim and an extra radiator instead
/Jacob
/Jacob
quote:Originally posted by domfjbrown:
it's not like I've got anything keeping me on the land...
What about your Naim-equipment???
Curry on the menu?
Guys, for your interest, here's what I've just pulled from WikipediA about this place...slightly out of date and inaccurate....
The Cormorant oilfield is located 161 Km north east of Lerwick, Shetland, Scotland, in block number 211/26a. It is operated by Shell and licensed to Shell/Esso. It was discovered in September 1972 at a depth of 150 metres. Estimated recovery is 90 million barrels of oil.
The oil reservoir is located at a depth of 2,895 metres.
Production started in December 1979 from the Cormorant Alpha platform. This platform is a concrete gravity platform of the Condeep type. It has three legs and storage capacity for 1 million barrels of oil. The total sub-structure weight is 294,655 tonnes and it is designed to carry a topsides weight of 32,350 tonnes.
The topsides facilities included capability to drill, produce, meter and pump oil. It also has capability to re-inject water to maintain reservoir pressure. Peak production was 24,000 barrels per day in 1979. The platform is also the starting point for the Brent System pipeline, a major communications centre and the location of Brent Log - air traffic control for Northern North Sea helicopter traffic.
In addition an Underwater Manifold Centre (controlled from the Cormorant platform also produces oil. This started up in mid 1983. It has a design capacity for 50,000 barrels per day. Also a single satellite well (P1) is linked to the platform with a design capacity of 10,000 barrels per day.
As you may have noticed from the pic - we have four legs not three!
We're still a major communications centre, but Brent Log is now located on the beach.
The UMC is now fucked, with an estimated few million barrels stuck down there!
We now have the Pelican sub-sea field which we produce from and inject water down...
With a total structure weight of nearly 300,000 tonnes there's little chance of this place going anywhere!! Why do you think Shell keep a couple of billion, each, in the back for the decommissioning of these concrete giants....
As for the flare, they are a necessary evil I'm afraid....
It is the only 'safe' way to vent off (known as blow-down) any un-used gas....which is an integral part of running the process. But is also required in an emergency when everything goes tits up, which happens quite often (especially on here) - you wouldn't want a huge cloud of gas hovering about the platform when the process trips......the safest way is to burn it off.....
Even with our gas compressor running, sending gas at 130 Bar over to the Brent Alpha and eventually St Fergus gas terminal in the NE of Scotland, there still needs to be a means of controlling pressures in our separator vessels, compressor barrel stages, fuel gas system for our turbines etc etc.....unfortunately there's a lot we send up the chuff.....
Oh, and yeah, Basil, the curry's normally pretty rough.......
Cheers,
Ali
The Cormorant oilfield is located 161 Km north east of Lerwick, Shetland, Scotland, in block number 211/26a. It is operated by Shell and licensed to Shell/Esso. It was discovered in September 1972 at a depth of 150 metres. Estimated recovery is 90 million barrels of oil.
The oil reservoir is located at a depth of 2,895 metres.
Production started in December 1979 from the Cormorant Alpha platform. This platform is a concrete gravity platform of the Condeep type. It has three legs and storage capacity for 1 million barrels of oil. The total sub-structure weight is 294,655 tonnes and it is designed to carry a topsides weight of 32,350 tonnes.
The topsides facilities included capability to drill, produce, meter and pump oil. It also has capability to re-inject water to maintain reservoir pressure. Peak production was 24,000 barrels per day in 1979. The platform is also the starting point for the Brent System pipeline, a major communications centre and the location of Brent Log - air traffic control for Northern North Sea helicopter traffic.
In addition an Underwater Manifold Centre (controlled from the Cormorant platform also produces oil. This started up in mid 1983. It has a design capacity for 50,000 barrels per day. Also a single satellite well (P1) is linked to the platform with a design capacity of 10,000 barrels per day.
As you may have noticed from the pic - we have four legs not three!
We're still a major communications centre, but Brent Log is now located on the beach.
The UMC is now fucked, with an estimated few million barrels stuck down there!
We now have the Pelican sub-sea field which we produce from and inject water down...
With a total structure weight of nearly 300,000 tonnes there's little chance of this place going anywhere!! Why do you think Shell keep a couple of billion, each, in the back for the decommissioning of these concrete giants....
As for the flare, they are a necessary evil I'm afraid....
It is the only 'safe' way to vent off (known as blow-down) any un-used gas....which is an integral part of running the process. But is also required in an emergency when everything goes tits up, which happens quite often (especially on here) - you wouldn't want a huge cloud of gas hovering about the platform when the process trips......the safest way is to burn it off.....
Even with our gas compressor running, sending gas at 130 Bar over to the Brent Alpha and eventually St Fergus gas terminal in the NE of Scotland, there still needs to be a means of controlling pressures in our separator vessels, compressor barrel stages, fuel gas system for our turbines etc etc.....unfortunately there's a lot we send up the chuff.....
Oh, and yeah, Basil, the curry's normally pretty rough.......
Cheers,
Ali
quote:Originally posted by arf005:
That's some aerial for your NAT01 Ali!
Someone once commented that I was taking my isolation platform a little too far......
And yeah, the telecomms tower is quite a size......it's on the right, next to it is the drilling derek, then a crane boom on the left.....
Jono, home sweet home!! Although I feel like shit as I'm coming off nights....see here - http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/58019385/m/6842935207/p/6 bottom of page 6 and then page 7....
Still nice to be back though!!
Cheers,
Ali
And yeah, the telecomms tower is quite a size......it's on the right, next to it is the drilling derek, then a crane boom on the left.....
Jono, home sweet home!! Although I feel like shit as I'm coming off nights....see here - http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/58019385/m/6842935207/p/6 bottom of page 6 and then page 7....
Still nice to be back though!!
Cheers,
Ali
quote:Originally posted by arf005:
Someone once commented that I was taking my isolation platform a little too far......
Ali,
it'll be OK as long as it's non-ferrous.
Then we've got the whole three-legs (Fraim) vs four-legs (Cormorant Alpha) debate.
cheers, Martin