Classical Music Questions for mikeeschman
Posted by: JeremyB on 31 March 2009
Inspired by Mike's request. I'll go first.
What is the difference between a Chaconne and a Passacaglia? Is there a difference?
What is the difference between a Chaconne and a Passacaglia? Is there a difference?
Posted on: 01 April 2009 by mikeeschman
These two are very close.
A Chaconne is a slow, stately baroque dance that features variations on a theme.
A Passacaglia is a short, slow and grave piece that features variations over a repeating bass line.
tonight when i get home from work, i'll dig these up in the harvard and post a more complete response.
A Chaconne is a slow, stately baroque dance that features variations on a theme.
A Passacaglia is a short, slow and grave piece that features variations over a repeating bass line.
tonight when i get home from work, i'll dig these up in the harvard and post a more complete response.
Posted on: 01 April 2009 by JeremyB
Brilliant Mike - at least the question was not too shameful. I just couldn't find such a clear and eloquent answer anywhere else, and am unsure what two examples would best illustrate the difference.
Posted on: 01 April 2009 by mikeeschman
while i'm in the harvard, i'll try to snag examples.
Posted on: 01 April 2009 by Musicmad
I admit to knowing nothing about musical composition, arrangement, playing ... I just know I love music and my one area of expertise (albeit limited) is that of film soundtracks.
I mention this and interject in this thread just for the amusement (I hope) the following brings:
The Ennio Morricone score to the Michael Douglas~Demi Moore film Disclosure includes the following track titles:
12. First Passacaglia 13. Second Passacaglia and 14. Third Passacaglia.
See: http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=5870
Not knowing what the word meant I had no idea it was a musical term so I thank you both (for raising and answering the query).
I mention this and interject in this thread just for the amusement (I hope) the following brings:
The Ennio Morricone score to the Michael Douglas~Demi Moore film Disclosure includes the following track titles:
12. First Passacaglia 13. Second Passacaglia and 14. Third Passacaglia.
See: http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=5870
Not knowing what the word meant I had no idea it was a musical term so I thank you both (for raising and answering the query).
Posted on: 01 April 2009 by mikeeschman
From the Harvard Dictionary of Music :
Chaconne and Passacaglia : "...Two closely related forms of baroque music, each a kind of continuous variation in moderately slow triple meter and with a slow harmonic rhythm, changing generally with the measure.
...
There have been many futile attempts to explain the derivation and original meaning of these terms, and just as many attempts, equally futile, to make a clear distinction between them. Actually, baroque composers used the term indiscriminately."
make of that what you will :-)
another poster has provided some music for the Passacaglia. perhaps a third generous soul can provide a link that completes the set ...
Chaconne and Passacaglia : "...Two closely related forms of baroque music, each a kind of continuous variation in moderately slow triple meter and with a slow harmonic rhythm, changing generally with the measure.
...
There have been many futile attempts to explain the derivation and original meaning of these terms, and just as many attempts, equally futile, to make a clear distinction between them. Actually, baroque composers used the term indiscriminately."
make of that what you will :-)
another poster has provided some music for the Passacaglia. perhaps a third generous soul can provide a link that completes the set ...
Posted on: 01 April 2009 by mikeeschman
here's a Chaconne :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZk5Edqdy0
it would be nice if someone could look in their OED and see if they get a hit. That would be an excellent hit! to post ...
and God forbid someone had an Oxford Dictionary of Music and they sited it on this thread!!!!!!!!!
and here's a Passacaglia :
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/js-bach-passacaglia-a...06/?icid=VIDLRVMUS07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZk5Edqdy0
it would be nice if someone could look in their OED and see if they get a hit. That would be an excellent hit! to post ...
and God forbid someone had an Oxford Dictionary of Music and they sited it on this thread!!!!!!!!!
and here's a Passacaglia :
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/js-bach-passacaglia-a...06/?icid=VIDLRVMUS07