Nait 5 as pre amplifier

It does perform like a decent pre-amplifier, although not nearly as good as a 112. You can ofcourse use the Nait5 as a poweramp and use a 12 to do the pre section as well.

But straight answer, it is good, but a 112 is naturally better. Adding a power to the Nait5 is just a part of the upgradepath of the Naim ladder .

You could start bij adding a 150 or 200 and jumping to the 112 or 202 later, if you'd want to. Frankly I'd go for the pre first and removing the Nait5 when the power arrives.

I am not familiar with the Nait but had a 92r which is the equivalent of a 112 roughly speaking. Since your nait is relatively new why not save up for a bigger jump over the 112 and get the 202 when you can afford it. When I upgraded I still was impressed with how good the lower gear is. Take yoour time, upgraditis is addicting and hard to keep in control, I know, but relax and enjoy. Let your bank account grow for a bit.

glenn

Life is analogue

Nuno,

I disagree with Boekster strenuously. My Nait5 as a pre-amp with a 150 sounded IDENTICAL to my 112 with a 150. Simple as that. And it is my impression that there is no good reason why they ought to sound different. The pre-amp section in the nait5 is essentially the guts of the 112.

Perhaps Naim can shed some light on this (maybe I am wrong) but isn't the main board in the 112 the same board in the nait5?

Judd

Judd

With the 3 series you could disembowel a Nait 3 and turn it into a 92. I understand that you can't do this with a Nait 5 and turn it into a 112.



Regards,

Steve.

I was using Nait5, after I got NAP200, I used it as pre, and I have carefully compared Nait 5 pre and 112 with 150, the difference is minor, but 202 is a big difference, try to make a listen to them.

KenTo

Interesting results by others.

I recently upgraded from a Nait 5 to a 112/200.

Strange thing was that I tried a 200 on the back end of the Nait, and didn't think it was massively better than the Nait alone.
I then add a 112 and ran the nait as just a power amp, and thought the pre amp upgrade was a much bigger change than the 200 I'd previously dem'd.
Once I had the 112, time to find a power amp. Couldn't find s/h 150, so ended up with an ex-dem 200 (damn!!). On the back end of the 112, massive improvement.

Here's the recent link on this one. http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=67019385&f=48019385&m=4471931686&r=8571922686#8571922686
IMO and having dem'd, a move from Nait to 112 is so marginal an upgrade as to be pointless. Stick a 150 or 200 on back of the Nait and save pennies for a 202 which is eons ahead of a Nait or 112 and will do justice to either of the power amps and indeed above.

If you get a huge whack of money for your Nait and a cheap 112 then it may be worth a thought otherwise it's just expenditure that doesn't really get you anywhere significant.

Nuno,

Have you thought of keeping your Nait5, maybe putting an Hicap on it, and upgrade your CD5 to CDX2 instead?
I frankly think it as much more rewarding musically.
Source first!

Hope this helps
Jean-Marc

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Originally posted by Jean-Marc:
Nuno,

Have you thought of keeping your Nait5, maybe putting an Hicap on it, and upgrade your CD5 to CDX2 instead?
I frankly think it as much more rewarding musically.
Source first!

Hope this helps
Jean-Marc

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Nuño,

This is worth considering, the HiCap will serve you a long time and you can try it either on the Nait or on the CD5. A CDX sounds really good on a Hicapped Nait. That's what I have.

Peter

I third Peter and Jean-Marc on the Hicap. It's a substantial upgrade that you'll notice immediately and which will last through many subsequent line-up changes, though Joolz is right to suggest that you let your own ears loose on the gear.

he CDX(2) sounds great even on a bare Nait5, although it is in a completely different pricerange considering the upgrade costs. I'd say it is definetly worth it (hell, hoping to have one in a month or 3!). It's up to Nuno if he wants to invest that much. Although the options of a 202 and 200 will probably as expensive as a 2nd hand CDX. HiCapping is also an option, and costs just a bit more than a 112 or 150. Good option if you want to keep upgrading. For now it will improve virtually everything, no matter if you feed the Nait5 or the CD5.

And as stated, your ears will have to decide. And your purse, ofcourse .

"I have carefully compared Nait 5 pre and 112 with 150, the difference is minor, but 202 is a big difference"

Back when demoing and buying, my wife and I heard a difference between the 112/150 combo and the Nait 5, but not a huge difference. Added a flat or hicap to the Nait and the difference was even less.

Also, FWIW, Naits seem to be easier to move on the 2nd-hand market and seem to hold value better than 112's, at least that is what I am observing over here.

That could work for you if you find a 112 cheap enough, but will work against you if you buy new and then try to shift it on later (apologies to your local dealer).

The Nait is also a complete "thing" and can find its way to starting a second system or end up as the centerpiece of a friend's or family member's system. A Nait is a beautiful thing.

- GregB

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I own a Nait 5 and have not heard a 112/150, so take this with a grain of salt. My thoughts are that a 112/150 still runs off of one power supply, although the components are in two boxes. I would prefer two power supplies as in a Nait5/*cap. A 112/150 to me just seems like a larger integrated amp in two boxes, because of one power supply...however, put a FC2 on that 112 and then we can talk.

There is, however, much more room for components and therefore better components and room for more stability, larger transformer etc. Depends on how you look at it . If you see it your way, you could make it a seperate pre/power bij adding a Flatcap or hicap only. Since he does have a flatcap, which is able to feed a 112 and a CD5, would it still be a '2-boxed integrated'?

Thank you for your answers!
I´m going to see if I can buy a s/H 112/150, as greg sugest

MY system : Naim Nait 5 amplifier,Naim cd 5 ,Epos M 15 speakers,Naca5,FC2

Nuno,

May I suggest a different approach -- buy a s/h LP12, stageline, a record cleaner, and several hundred used LPs. Better value by far than going from a Nait 5 to a 112/150.

cheers,

Dan

Hello all,

I am using a Nait 5 as a preamp. First I was using the Nait 5 alone. I want NAC 202 + NAPSC + Hi-Cap + NAP 250. But I can not afford that at the moment. Thus I must buy it in pieces. The NAP 250 alone cannot be connected to the Nait 5 (it can, but gives no music), thus I did not buy a NAP 250. The NAPSC can also not be connected to the Nait 5, skipped that also. The NAC 202 and the Hi-Cap can be used with the Nait 5, but then I met a NAP 180 (last new one here in The Netherlands for less then a new NAP 150). And because I have a lot of different pairs of speakers, I thought that a more powerfull power amplifier is welcome. Thus I bought it.

Now I have a Nait 5 with a NAP 180. It is great!
It is not only the bigger power amplifier but also the larger supply for the preamp in the NAP 180 (I have read that it performs like a Flatcap 1).

My next upgrade will be a Hi-Cap (if nothing very interestings enters my path). Then the NAC 202, followed by the NAPSC and the NAP 250 at last.

In short: the Nait 5 is a fine preamp, but only a stop-gap for me (I skip the NAC 112 and go directly to the NAC 202). In the mean time I enjoy music very much.

Greetings, Hans