Just realized who my next MP is likely to be and it'd isn't good news!
Posted by: Steve G on 12 April 2005
In Scotland the number of MP's is being slimmed from 72 to 59 which has meant significant boundary changes. In my own area those changes have meant it going from a marginal Tory/Labour seat to a very secure Labour one (a couple of the better off areas have been sliced off and a couple of more socially deprived areas spliced in) and up to know I hadn't noticed who Labour had installed to make use of this fact.
Now I know - Alistair Darling FFS, a total and absolute scumbag (I've met him unfortunately). :-(
Now I know - Alistair Darling FFS, a total and absolute scumbag (I've met him unfortunately). :-(
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by Mick P
LOL
Thats what happens when you kick out the Tories.
I have met the man and he is the consumate career politician. In other words, as oily as hell.
Best of luck
Mick
Thats what happens when you kick out the Tories.
I have met the man and he is the consumate career politician. In other words, as oily as hell.
Best of luck
Mick
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by Steve G
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
I have met the man and he is the consumate career politician. In other words, as oily as hell.
I met him at the wedding of a friend who at the time was the (labour) finance minister of the Scottish Parliament.
A colleague in the office was sitting next to him on a delayed flight down to London and he spent the whole time being obnoxious to the cabin crew about the delay. At one point he came out with the line "I have a meeting with the prime minister and I'm going to be late". I'd have told the prick that most of us had proper jobs and were also going to be late for meetings that would generate the tax funds that him and his colleagues were squandering...
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by oldie
Mick,
Unfortunatly, it doesn't really matter who you kick out or vote in,they are now and have been for some time, all "career Politicians" and think nothing of either changing sides to suit them selves, or as in the case of Blair changing the party just to ensure their election to power, the word "Politian" now is synonymous with, as oily as hell.
oldie.
Unfortunatly, it doesn't really matter who you kick out or vote in,they are now and have been for some time, all "career Politicians" and think nothing of either changing sides to suit them selves, or as in the case of Blair changing the party just to ensure their election to power, the word "Politian" now is synonymous with, as oily as hell.
oldie.
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by Mick P
Oldie
For once we agree.
Mick
For once we agree.
Mick
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by 7V
quote:Originally posted by oldie:
...or as in the case of Blair changing the party just to ensure their election to power ...
If Blair wasn't as oily as hell and if he hadn't changed the Labour party there may not be a Labour party by now. Still, at least the memories of what had once been an active political party would have remain unsullied.
Regards
Steve M
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by Rasher
Someone who craves power, spends the best years of their youth at local council meetings and brown-noses up to local politicians, stands for local parties and works up to grown-up politics has to be more than a little strange in the head department. Who they eventually side with is a very minor detail.
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by kevj
I think it was Billy Connolly who came up with the idea that the desire for power was so mentally dysfuntional and monomaniacal that it should preclude anyone who had the desire from ever actually wielding any sort of power. They shouldn't even be milk monitors.
Sums it up I think.....
Sums it up I think.....
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by Deane F
Someone I know once said that to reveal the true person give them authority of some kind.
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by Matthew T
You always needed to keep an eye on those milk monitors...
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by oldie
quote:Originally posted by 7V:quote:Originally posted by oldie:
...or as in the case of Blair changing the party just to ensure their election to power ...
If Blair wasn't as oily as hell and if he hadn't changed the Labour party there may not be a Labour party by now. Still, at least the memories of what had once been an active political party would have remain unsullied.
Regards
Steve M
Steve,
Sorry,but I have to disagree [ as you know I would] There will always be a "Labour Party" as long as there are people with simular thoughts,attitudes,and actions to my own,alive in this country. It may NEVER achieve power, but that might be the worthy price, of it retaining it's integrity. But please don't refer to those people who operate a strategy of personal political conveniance when picking a political party to steer "AS THE LABOUR PARTY". Keir Hardie would be spinning in his grave if he knew what Blair and his cohorts had done in the name of his beloved Labour Party.If you are in doubt,which I do not think for one moment you are, as to New Labours position in the political spectrum, always remember Blair is as far to the right as Thatcher was, he has "achieved" things She could only Dream of implementing,and that should give you a reasonable clue.
oldie.
Posted on: 12 April 2005 by Steve G
What amazes me is that support for the labour party in Scotland has never declined despite the implementation of policies that make Thatcher look positively liberal.
The answer is when you see folks interviewed on the street who state that their grandad voted labour, their father voted labour and they've always voted labour and always will. One colleague in my office, a well educated man, stated that he'll never vote for the tories no matter what their policies or the policies of the labour party.
There is a "natural" successor to the labour party in Scotland in the SSP however they are so far to the left of what is sensible they're not likely ever to be any more than a minority player.
The answer is when you see folks interviewed on the street who state that their grandad voted labour, their father voted labour and they've always voted labour and always will. One colleague in my office, a well educated man, stated that he'll never vote for the tories no matter what their policies or the policies of the labour party.
There is a "natural" successor to the labour party in Scotland in the SSP however they are so far to the left of what is sensible they're not likely ever to be any more than a minority player.