DVD HD storage/playback ?

Posted by: u5227470736789454 on 16 February 2009

Hi folks,

If I wanted to store and play all my dvd's on computer plus H/D could I do it, and what would I need, what is available ?

As I want to move to having my music CD's stored and played electronicaly (HDX etc) this thought about DVD's seems the mext logical step. Erm not sure if this is a problem but I really do not like/trust Windoze.

Thanks

Barrie
Posted on: 16 February 2009 by {OdS}
I'm no expert is this matter but as far as I know, you'll have a hard time legally ripping your DVDs. If my memory serves me well, legal softwares first need to read the dvd, convert it to an analog stream and then re-record it into a file, thus leading to loss in quality and sync problems.

As for Windows, well I won't start a Mac vs. PC war here Winker Remember though that your HDX is nothing more that a computer in a Naim case. (yes I know, but still, this is pretty much like a computer to me).
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by tonym
Hi Barrie. Treat yourself to a copy of "Any DVD HD". It'll enable you to rip HD/Blu Ray/& standard DVDs to your hard drive, remove any region encoding and all those annoying adverts!
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by u5227470736789454
ods - I know there is windoze in the HDX - annoying but there it is.


Tonym - thanks for that advice, can I just store them on some kind of server then?

Sorry if these are pretty basic questions but I have a pretty basic level of knowledge

Cheers

Barrie
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by {OdS}
Barrie: I was actually ignorant of this fact! I thought you were a strong Mac defender Winker

Tonym: I'd be very interested in this product, but is it "legally legal"?
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by tonym
quote:
Originally posted by {OdS}:
Tonym: I'd be very interested in this product, but is it "legally legal"?


Guess it depends what country you're in. As long as you're not copying discs, the process could legitimately be viewed as backing up your own movie collection, and it's certainly not illegal to remove region protection from discs.
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by Neill Ferguson
I thought you couldn't copy a blu ray it was part of the protection and reason the movie industry pushed for it ?
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by u5227470736789454
Hi OdS,
You are right I do prefer things that are well thought out and work ( Mac ), but I also have to work with Windoze in the office. Anyway it is only used in the HDX for media management so hopefully it can't do too much damage Roll Eyes

Needs must when the Devil drives - as they say

Barrie
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by gary1 (US)
Barrie,

I have a windows home server which I use to store mp3 music, photos, and will add DVD at some point. Lots of flexibility with this product.

However, for my 24 bit music, 16 bit wav/flac I use a dedicated NAS which cannot function as a server so it's really stripped down and is really meant only for storage.

If cost isn't too much of an issue I would suggest separating your HDX music from your other stuff. If the NAS acts as a server and has other software contained whether you are aware or not it quite probably would be having a detrimental effect on the data transfer since it's working more like a "PC" and we all know what that does!
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by u5227470736789454
Hi Gary1

I agree it seems best to separate them, maybe I can use a media storage hard drive and use my mac to run it, but I'll have a look at the media centre
Cheers
Barrie
Posted on: 17 February 2009 by {OdS}
quote:
Originally posted by baz100:
Hi OdS,
(...) things that are well thought out and work (...) so hopefully it can't do too much damage
Barrie


Big Grin ! Curently running OpenSolaris, so I guess I get you point! But I must say Windows still seems the most complete and versatile system to me.

Tonym: thank you for the added info. If I'm not mistaken, breaking the macrovision copy protection is illegal, so yes, reading the DVD and storing it into a file should be legal in most countries. Don't know about Blu-Ray though.
Posted on: 19 February 2009 by Occean
Baz

There are many ways to do this, as per tonym's post you can use recoding software.

optionally, you can just copy the DVD unencoded using DVDshrink, which is free and play back using appropriate software, I use Gomplayer which for me is the best video playback software.

Using this option takes alot more storage, no compression takes place at all and it will play just like a DVD would, menu's and all.
Posted on: 19 February 2009 by u5227470736789454
Thanks for all your helpful replies, I shall have a look for the prices of media HD's over the weekend. I assume something like a 1tb size HD will do ?

Barrie
Posted on: 19 February 2009 by {OdS}
quote:

Commercial DVD titles are often encrypted, which prevents you from either copying them to your hard drive, or if you manage to do so, being able to play the resulting files. DVDShrink overcomes this problem with built-in decryption algorithms

DVDShrink is freeware. However, due to a number of limitations and facts, we are not allowed to host it here


All the above makes me think this is more or less illegal software (at least depending on the country it is used), once more. Too bad, looked pretty interesting. Frown
Posted on: 20 February 2009 by winkyincanada
In some countries (US) it is a "little bit" illegal. What I mean is that even if illegal, if you are only breaking copy (or region) protection for personal use such as convenience, portability and /or back-up, some might say that you are unlikely to ever raise the ire of the enforcement agencies. Morally, its another matter.

Breaking the copy protection then hosting the file for Torrent users to access for free over the net is perhaps another thing.

Breaking the copy protection in order to make copies for sale is perhaps the most likely to get you in trouble.

I'm not giving advice on what you should do. The moral issues and legal risk you are wishing to take on are up to you, of course.


I ended up having to buy a multi-region DVD player, just to play my own legally purchased discs, because I had the temerity to move from one country to another. I'm somewhat annoyed by that - I feel that the industry should have chipped in. Interestingly, even using a multi-region player could be construed as circumventing DRM and is perhaps illegal in the US (DMCA) and soon Canada if the proposed new legislation gets up (this legislation might currently be stalled in Canada? Anyone have an update).

Do not underestimate the desire of the industry to protect its position against we evil consumers.
Posted on: 21 February 2009 by SC
quote:
Originally posted by Neill Ferguson:
I thought you couldn't copy a blu ray it was part of the protection and reason the movie industry pushed for it ?


Well, the Thais can !! Plenty of them down the road....£2-3 Big Grin
Posted on: 22 February 2009 by tonym
quote:
Originally posted by SC:
quote:
Originally posted by Neill Ferguson:
I thought you couldn't copy a blu ray it was part of the protection and reason the movie industry pushed for it ?


Well, the Thais can !! Plenty of them down the road....£2-3 Big Grin


I think you'll find they're quite legitimate SC. I managed to purchase a genuine Rolex watch from a nice man in Pat Pong market!
Posted on: 22 February 2009 by SC
Tony - Trust me, if they can do the Ferrari, they can do anything...! Winker

Best place for legit Rolex that I know of is Siem Reap, Cambodia....Hotel room maids steal them to order.....

S
Posted on: 22 February 2009 by SC
But hey, the Brits will buy anything....! Eek
Posted on: 23 February 2009 by tonym
quote:
Originally posted by SC:
Tony - Trust me, if they can do the Ferrari, they can do anything...! Winker
S


Want one! Big Grin
Posted on: 23 February 2009 by SC
I'll have a word with the guys down the road....Red, yellow, white or black ?! Free hacked iPhone with every order just now.