New J.J. Cale and Eric Clapton Al***
Posted by: Chris Kelly on 08 November 2006
Received my copy of "The Road to Escondido" today. This long-overdue collaboration brings out the best in both players. EC sounds relaxed and his playing is wonderfulyy fluid. JJ is is no way overawed or outclassed.The vocal duets are great. The best album from either of them for a long while. Of the 14 tracks, JJ wrote 11, EC 1 on his own and another with John Mayer. The other is Brownie McGee's "Sporting Life Blues".
All we need now is a joint tour - that would be the icing on an already delicious cake.
All we need now is a joint tour - that would be the icing on an already delicious cake.
Posted on: 08 November 2006 by Steve S1
Thanks for that Chris, I feel another Amazon moment coming on.
Steve.
Steve.
Posted on: 08 November 2006 by Cosmoliu
Thanks for the review, Chris. I ordered mine from Amazon.com Sunday when I saw a note about the CD in the NYTimes. Now I am even more impatient than before.

Norman

Norman
Posted on: 08 November 2006 by ewemon
I concur with Chris. Why they didn't get together to record a whole album is beyond me.
Posted on: 08 November 2006 by rupert bear
It's all going well up until track 9 - when you realise they've all been JJ's songs. At this point Eric launches into one of his 'domestic bliss' paeans - as if the whole of his last album wasn't enough - wait for it, entitled 'Three Little Girls'! (is this a cross between 3 Cool Cats and Rolf Harris?). I don't want to pput you off though - it's a pretty good album.
On this subject, worth mentioning that the first EC solo album has been reissued as a (groan) 'deluxe' double. That's the pre-Dominos one with Delaney and Bonnie, and worth getting for an early version of 'Let It Rain' and the classic singles 'Coming Home' and 'Teasin'. Good stuff.
On this subject, worth mentioning that the first EC solo album has been reissued as a (groan) 'deluxe' double. That's the pre-Dominos one with Delaney and Bonnie, and worth getting for an early version of 'Let It Rain' and the classic singles 'Coming Home' and 'Teasin'. Good stuff.
Posted on: 08 November 2006 by Steve S1
quote:At this point Eric launches into one of his 'domestic bliss' paeans - as if the whole of his last album wasn't enough - wait for it, entitled 'Three Little Girls'! (is this a cross between 3 Cool Cats and Rolf Harris?). I don't want to pput you off though - it's a pretty good album.
I had the dubious honour of being stuck behind his little treasures when he played Hampton Court Palace in June.
I wondered why these little kids were at a gig, then when he took the stage it was "Daddy". Of course that novelty being out of the way, they then proceeded to fidget and yell as they were clearly bored blue!
The nanny carted them off halfway.
I know he lost his little boy a while back but jeeze, this "born again" parenting when people have young kids in their dotage - surely they can be without them for 3 hours?
Steve.
Posted on: 10 November 2006 by Jack
Look forward to it. Long been a fan of JJ Cale, never seen him or even noticed any details of tours in the UK.
Anyone seen him in the UK or further afield?
Jack
Anyone seen him in the UK or further afield?
Jack
Posted on: 13 November 2006 by Chris Kelly
Jack
I saw him both nights when he played the Hammersmitth Odeon (or Apollo) in '94 in suppport of the "Closer to You" album. Before that I saw him in '77 and, I think in, in '78, both in London. One was in Victoria, if my addled brain recalls correctly.
I saw him both nights when he played the Hammersmitth Odeon (or Apollo) in '94 in suppport of the "Closer to You" album. Before that I saw him in '77 and, I think in, in '78, both in London. One was in Victoria, if my addled brain recalls correctly.
Posted on: 13 November 2006 by Jack
Chris,
Lucky you, how was he? I suspect he may be happier in the studio rather than the large stage? Got the CD on order, just waiting on Amazon now!
Lucky you, how was he? I suspect he may be happier in the studio rather than the large stage? Got the CD on order, just waiting on Amazon now!
Posted on: 14 November 2006 by jcs_smith
Seen him a couple of times. He's fairly anonymas on stage. It's not obvious that he's the main attraction - he just acts as if he's one of the band. Always puts on a good show though
Posted on: 14 November 2006 by ewemon
I had the pleasure of seeing him once. He actually sat through the whole show. However it was a brilliant gig.
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by Chris Kelly
jack
The first time he was standing in a semi circle with all the other band members and took no lead role at all to speak of. In fact a guy caled Bill Boatman seemed to be the ringleader. The shows in '94 he was much more the central figure. having said that, John Hammond opened the show and then there was an intermission. We came back to our seats and the house lights were still on. There was a figure on stage with his back to the audience, fiddling with one of the amps. Then the house lights dimmed, the figure turned round and it was the man himself. He launched into a solo version - "After Midnight" if I recall - and the band joined him on stage one by one. the Live album is a fair record of that tour I think.
By the way, today's Daily Telegraph has a full page interview with Cale and Clapton.
The first time he was standing in a semi circle with all the other band members and took no lead role at all to speak of. In fact a guy caled Bill Boatman seemed to be the ringleader. The shows in '94 he was much more the central figure. having said that, John Hammond opened the show and then there was an intermission. We came back to our seats and the house lights were still on. There was a figure on stage with his back to the audience, fiddling with one of the amps. Then the house lights dimmed, the figure turned round and it was the man himself. He launched into a solo version - "After Midnight" if I recall - and the band joined him on stage one by one. the Live album is a fair record of that tour I think.
By the way, today's Daily Telegraph has a full page interview with Cale and Clapton.
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by J.N.
I'm a great fan of John W. Cale, having many of his albums, but this collaboration with EC sounds like a right load of old tripe to me.
No thanks.
John.
No thanks.
John.
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by Chris Kelly
John
We are talking J.J. Cale here, not ex VU John Cale.
We are talking J.J. Cale here, not ex VU John Cale.
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by J.N.
Cale, J.J.
Real name: John W. Cale
Birthday: Dec. 5, 1938
Place of birth: Tulsa, Oklahoma City, USA
Trivia: Many sources claims that Cale's real name is »Jean Jacques» Cale. According to Rocky Frisco, the pianist with the JJ Cale Band, that is not the case: »The "JJ" nickname was created by a club owner on the Sunset Strip. The 'Jean Jaques' crap was created by a drunk French "journalist" who got thrown out of the venue and made a lot of crap up to pretend he had done an interview».
More: The Official J.J. Cale Website
And...............
There is NO Jean Jacques Cale, 30 Aug 2006
Reviewer: Rocky Frisco "Cale's Pianist" (Tulsa, Oklahoma) - See all my reviews
I'm writing this to correct the error in the top review. There is NO Jean Jacques Cale. John's name is and always was John W. Cale, born in December 1938 in Oklahoma City. The "Jean Jacques" crap was made up by a French "jounalist" who was thrown out of the venue when he got drunk and disorderly and insulted one of the ladies in the Cale entourage. He went back to his hotel and wrote a pack of lies. He said John's name was Jean Jacques Cale because he was born in Paris, Texas. I have John's permission to counter this misinformation. I'm Rocky Frisco, pianist in the Cale Band.
John (not Cale!)
Real name: John W. Cale
Birthday: Dec. 5, 1938
Place of birth: Tulsa, Oklahoma City, USA
Trivia: Many sources claims that Cale's real name is »Jean Jacques» Cale. According to Rocky Frisco, the pianist with the JJ Cale Band, that is not the case: »The "JJ" nickname was created by a club owner on the Sunset Strip. The 'Jean Jaques' crap was created by a drunk French "journalist" who got thrown out of the venue and made a lot of crap up to pretend he had done an interview».
More: The Official J.J. Cale Website
And...............
There is NO Jean Jacques Cale, 30 Aug 2006
Reviewer: Rocky Frisco "Cale's Pianist" (Tulsa, Oklahoma) - See all my reviews
I'm writing this to correct the error in the top review. There is NO Jean Jacques Cale. John's name is and always was John W. Cale, born in December 1938 in Oklahoma City. The "Jean Jacques" crap was made up by a French "jounalist" who was thrown out of the venue when he got drunk and disorderly and insulted one of the ladies in the Cale entourage. He went back to his hotel and wrote a pack of lies. He said John's name was Jean Jacques Cale because he was born in Paris, Texas. I have John's permission to counter this misinformation. I'm Rocky Frisco, pianist in the Cale Band.
John (not Cale!)
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by Chris Kelly
Ok John. So why does this sound like a load of old crap to you? Have you heard it? Or is it just the idea that offends you?
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by J.N.
Hi Chris;
I've sampled the album, and was simply offering a personal opinion.
I'm not much of a Clapton fan, and think that his influence has 'watered-down' that wonderful 'JJ' something, and not added anything positive.
But I guess the two artistes are happy with the album, so fair enough.
It's good that music polarises opinions. We need to get excited about it, to spend all this money on Hi-Fi kit.
Best wishes.
John.
I've sampled the album, and was simply offering a personal opinion.
I'm not much of a Clapton fan, and think that his influence has 'watered-down' that wonderful 'JJ' something, and not added anything positive.
But I guess the two artistes are happy with the album, so fair enough.
It's good that music polarises opinions. We need to get excited about it, to spend all this money on Hi-Fi kit.
Best wishes.
John.
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by Cosmoliu
My copy has since arrived from Amazon.com and I have had a half dozen listens. I think it is a good, not great CD. Being a fan of both, I was really hoping for more. Part of the problem, for me anyway, is that the tune of the first cut "Danger" has the unwelcome effect of boring itself into my brain, like an ear wig. You know, sort of like that last song you hear on the car radio that sticks with you all day at work? It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't such a dorky tune. On the other hand, I think there is some very good guitar work on the album, of course.
Norman
Norman
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by Sloop John B
quote:Originally posted by Steve S1:
I know he lost his little boy a while back but jeeze, this "born again" parenting when people have young kids in their dotage - surely they can be without them for 3 hours?
Steve.
I think I give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Just ordered my copy from Djangos today. free shipping worldwide at the moment which is very attractive with the dollar:euro rate.
SJB
Posted on: 16 November 2006 by northpole
I've listened to it a couple of times and must admit I find it rather uninspiring - some of the bass lines and drums in particular are woefully reminiscent of pub band fodder.
I won't give up on it just yet, but I'm not holding out much hope for a flash of inspiration.
Peter
I won't give up on it just yet, but I'm not holding out much hope for a flash of inspiration.
Peter