Learning to play....

Posted by: Exiled Highlander on 10 August 2008

After many, many years thinking about it I finally took the plunge yesterday and bought this...

It's an Alvarez AD80SSB for those who know anything about guitars, although they are not that well known. I have no clue how to play (any instrument) but I'm determined to give it a go and even got some sounds out of it last night that didn't make the dog run into the backyard...oh wait the door was closed she couldn't!

Buying it was interesting too. I first went to the Guitar Center (big US chain) which turned out to be like going to a mass market High St Hi-Fi retailer as the spotty faced "sales" guy was utterly useless, I mean absolutely and utterly pathetic. So, I went outside, surfed the web on my Blackberry, found a local specialist dealer (Naperville Music) and spent around 1.5 hours with a really patient and enthusiastic salesman (and the bugger couldn't half play!!) - now I am the proud owner of this sunburst dreadnought and my fingers are already sore after one nights practice!

This will be fun.

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 10 August 2008 by 555
Good for you Jim.
I've tried to learn to play various instruments in the past,
but I don't have the aptitude.
Are you going to have lessons?

Cheers - John
Posted on: 10 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
John

As part of the deal I got one free lesson and I will almost certainly have more - I want to get to the point where I can play a decent tune or two and then understand enough about the theory to start to think about experimenting with my own - one step at a time though!

I did make the mistake of wandering into the up-market guitar room - the $24,000 Gibson was something else - unbelievable tone! Smile Not for me though!

Cheers

Jim

PS. I'm so glad I found a good dealer....sound familiar?
Posted on: 11 August 2008 by 555
Hi Jim

Both my children are learning to play fiddle & chanter (pre bagpipe) at the moment.
From watching their skills develop I'm sure you'll get much more out of your guitar with a good teacher.

A $24000 Gibson; that will be irresistible if instrument upgraditus strikes! Big Grin

Cheers - John
Posted on: 11 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
My daughter places viola in the school orchestra and I have suffered (oops enjoyed) listening to her practice over the years and strangely she gravitates towards Scottish fiddle music - I wonder how that could have happened?

Anyway, lesson 1 will be this week and I'm that will be an eye opener!

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 11 August 2008 by andy c
Nice one!

I can say that it will come with practice. A top tip is to ensure you are actually concentrating on your practice, rather that just saying 'oh I've done my hour' etc.

Andy c - sightreading grade three piano practice at this time... Roll Eyes

Oh, and try getting some lessons from a teacher you like! I have, and its priceless.
Posted on: 11 August 2008 by Chris Kelly
Jim
Good for you. I had the whole mid-life crisis thing in the mid90s and ended up with a beautiful Fender StratPlusdeLuxe in electric blue with a rosewood fretboard and a small solid state Fender amp. I had badly fractured my left wrist and thought playing the guitar would help to restrengthen it.
I went off once a week to a group lesson at the Academy of Contemporary Music in Guildford. However, I never made the time to put in the necessary practice and consequently my enthusiasm fizzled out. Entirely my own fault. But I kept the instrument and have promised myself that as and when I stop working full time I'll give it another go.
Sounds like you are properly motivated so I am sure that you'll get a huge amount of pleasure from learning to play. The acoustic is such a versatile thing too. That Alvarez looks lovely by the way.
Posted on: 11 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Andy/Chris

I have my first lesson tomorrow evening and I must admit I'm frightened of making an even bigger arse of myself than usual! Smile

These are individual lessons and not too expensive (actually much cheaper than I thought) so we'll see how me and my tutor get on!

Yeah, the Alvarez looks great - it's just a pity it has a mind of it's own apparently! Actually, it is supposed to be pretty high in the playability side of things which is one of the reasons I bought it.

I suppose playing at all the worlds great venues would be better than trying to win big IT contracts - so I'd better stick at it if I want a career change!

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 11 August 2008 by andy c
Let us know how your lesson goes.

my teacher is brill - he's classically trained but has theory knowledge by the bucket full - and I'm one of the few adults he teaches so my lessons always go over the scheduled time...for some reason i seem to be able to make him laugh??? Smile
Posted on: 11 August 2008 by Chris Kelly
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I suppose playing at all the worlds great venues would be better than trying to win big IT contracts


Jim
After 30 years of the latter I'd have to agree! Is it me, or has the fun gone out of it now?

Enjoy your lesson and don't worry about looking an arse. Who will know or care? Go for it!
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Chris
quote:
I suppose playing at all the worlds great venues would be better than trying to win big IT contracts

Jim
After 30 years of the latter I'd have to agree! Is it me, or has the fun gone out of it now?


It's not you!!.....although the current pursuit I'm on is the most fun I've had in a number of years...

My email address is in my profile...drop me a note and we can figure out if we compete or not! Smile

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Ewan Aye
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Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
Jim
Good for you. I had the whole mid-life crisis thing in the mid90s


Bloody hell! How long do you think you're going to live!! Eek
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
He's in IT Sales so it will be a pretty short span! Smile

Jim
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Chris Kelly
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Bloody hell! How long do you think you're going to live!!


Not MY mid90s! THE mid90s! I was then in my mid40s. Now I'm in my late 50s so if this is mid-life I'd be a very lucky bunny!
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Chris Kelly
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drop me a note and we can figure out if we compete or not!


Email en route!
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Chillkram
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Originally posted by andy c:
...for some reason i seem to be able to make him laugh??? Smile


Perhaps you're showing him more than he's showing you, Andy! Winker
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Chillkram
Congratulations on the guitar, Jim, you will really enjoy it I'm sure.

I used to play the electric guitar but never had the benefit of a tutor and paid for this with too much impatience for learning the basics.

I don't really get the time these days, but perhaps when work is a little less hectic and the kids grown up I may take it up again. Next time I definitely would take lessons in order to unlearn some of my bad habits!

Mark
Posted on: 12 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Mark

less than 1.5 hours to lesson #1.....gulp!

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 13 August 2008 by 555
How was the lesson Jim?
Posted on: 13 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
John

Well........I always want to run and now I have to learn to crawl.....I need to be patient and that is not a strong point of mine!

The lesson actually went very well. very simple stuff and a lot of practice to do before the next one next week.

In the meantime, I am on the waiting list to get a transplant for a new - and much longer - left hand so I can actually reach the frets on the neck! At least I now know what a fret is though! Only kidding - I did at least know that much before I went.

The worst part was walking the gauntlet of kids lined up outside the other practice rooms and I was convinced they were all looking at me thinking "who's this old geezer?".

It was great though - a lot of basic stuff fell into place and it's just practice, practice, practice. My tutor said I did good but I bet he says that to all the boys!

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 13 August 2008 by Chillkram
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Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:

Well........I always want to run and now I have to learn to crawl.....I need to be patient and that is not a strong point of mine!

The lesson actually went very well. very simple stuff and a lot of practice to do before the next one next week.



That's it Jim. It's where I went wrong. You'll have fun when you learn the basics properly and can then really cut loose.

Mark
Posted on: 14 August 2008 by Chris Kelly
Well done Jim!
Practice is the key though. As for looking old compared with other students...totally irrelevant! You're only as old as the guitar you feel.... Cool
Posted on: 14 August 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Chris

What was really galling last night was to see my 17 year old daughter (who plays viola in her school orchestra) pick it up and immediately start playing a tune.

As I looked at her with some incredulity (i.e. glared), she said, "Oh, that was just a tune I put together on Chelsea's guitar a few months ago." (Chelsea being her friend next door).

I am crestfallen. She has never had a lesson, rarely picked a guitar up and she puts her own tunes together. WTF? Frown

Jim

PS. Being new, the guitar goes out of tune if you even look at it sideways....need a tuner as I can't yet do it by ear.
Posted on: 15 August 2008 by Chris Kelly
Jim
It is galling! Both my sons, who were teenagers at the time, did exactly the same thing to me! The older one was a double bassist and the younger one played violin and percussion. I guess their music theory lessons (which they both loathed!) taught them how chord structures etc work. Anyhow they both were able to pick up my Strat and make it sound ok!

Stick at it! Then you can amaze your daughter!!

I have always used an electronic tuner. I presume you can get them for acoustics too!
Posted on: 15 August 2008 by BigH47
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I have always used an electronic tuner.


There is a tuner that can be clipped on the headstock.
Posted on: 15 August 2008 by Guido Fawkes
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I have always used an electronic tuner. I presume you can get them for acoustics too!


Yes you can - I've got one for an Acoustic.

Not sure if you can get one for air-guitar, my best instrument, though. Would be handy as my air-Strat is always out of tune. Smile