Thread to Rate Al***s Using Nick Lees Head as a Quality Index
Posted by: matthewr on 05 June 2003
It has occured that the admirable Nick Lees is the archtypal Music Room poster -- he has excellent taste, a huge record collection and perhaps most importantly bridges the gap between the 60s/70s classics/traditionalists and the sort of utlra-fashionable hipsters like myself who listen to impossibly cool records only available from an obscure record shop in Norway.
Therefore, and in an effort to reinvigorate our Music Room which we still do way better than the varuous other forums I would like to introduce a new standardised and highly objective system for rating albums by positioning a picture of Nick on a special designed rating thermometer. And then optionally adding a suitable summary comment for quoting on one of those annoying stickers that record companies like to put on the front of CD cases.
e.g.
"Destined to be bought by the bass players Mum, people who shop while drunk and Mick Parry"
"these people should be boiled in oil for making this"
"for dedicated fans and completists only"
"... monumental... a staggering achievement"
"... an instant classic and potential Album of the Year"
To this end I present a brief review of one of my favourite discs this year:
Matthew
Therefore, and in an effort to reinvigorate our Music Room which we still do way better than the varuous other forums I would like to introduce a new standardised and highly objective system for rating albums by positioning a picture of Nick on a special designed rating thermometer. And then optionally adding a suitable summary comment for quoting on one of those annoying stickers that record companies like to put on the front of CD cases.
e.g.
"Destined to be bought by the bass players Mum, people who shop while drunk and Mick Parry"
"these people should be boiled in oil for making this"
"for dedicated fans and completists only"
"... monumental... a staggering achievement"
"... an instant classic and potential Album of the Year"
To this end I present a brief review of one of my favourite discs this year:
Matthew
Posted on: 25 July 2004 by ErikL
That's okay- I forgive you.
Have you picked up the Fiery Furnaces album? Local radio has been playing it the past several weeks and it sounds like a winner.
Have you picked up the Fiery Furnaces album? Local radio has been playing it the past several weeks and it sounds like a winner.
Posted on: 25 July 2004 by matthewr
It's on order somewhere. And the delay is annoying as I saw it in my local record shop and if I wasn't such a skinflint I;d have paid UK prices and be done with it.
Shall give the "Animal Collective" another go while I wait.
Matthew
Shall give the "Animal Collective" another go while I wait.
Matthew
Posted on: 26 July 2004 by Dave J
Hi Nick,
The Trans-Global link was handy and mostly really good although the first track featured a lot of sitar, which, for me, is what the banjo is for many others.
Dave
The Trans-Global link was handy and mostly really good although the first track featured a lot of sitar, which, for me, is what the banjo is for many others.
Dave
Posted on: 27 July 2004 by --duncan--
Wonderful stuff Nick, moments like this make the forum worthwhile...sniff, sniff. Can I request another one of your inimitable guides? English Psychedelia 1966-68 (for folk who were too young to have been a Hippy but too old to be a neo-Hippy).
Anyone else who is interested in this might like to know that the LP pressing is limited to 1000, so get your orders in quick.
duncan
Email: djcritchley at hotmail.com
Anyone else who is interested in this might like to know that the LP pressing is limited to 1000, so get your orders in quick.
duncan
Email: djcritchley at hotmail.com
Posted on: 27 July 2004 by Dave J
quote:
poodle-hair
Arf
Posted on: 27 July 2004 by --duncan--
Nick,
you have a PM!
duncan
Email: djcritchley at hotmail.com
you have a PM!
duncan
Email: djcritchley at hotmail.com
Posted on: 29 July 2004 by o.j.
quote:Bought this cd today and have to say one thing:
Originally posted by Prince Of Softies:
_Yello - The Eye_
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000SXZ8Q.02.MZZZZZZZ
This seems more like early Yello than either Motion Picture or Pocket Universe, but with modern production values and lots of bass. After a few listens its up there with some of their best.
http://comedylimp.com/images/nick4.jpg
not discussing the music and the taste of people which like this cd or not,its one of the best ever recorded electronic cds i ever bought(in this league i would rate james newton howard and arizona dreams by bregovic also that high but not that spectaculair concerning the bass sounds)i wish all those
ibiza discotheq music cds were recorded in that
quality,but i think todays music is often not only missing quality it often suffers also
concerning the quality of recoding.those yellow
producers do their job as good as expected
from a product "made in switzerland".
O.J.(very impressed)
Posted on: 04 August 2004 by Mekon
Vast Aire - Look Mom...No Hands
The word on this has been mixed, falling somwhere between 'lyrics that go beyond being intelligent to becoming unintelligible' to 'content, braggadocio, observations and word play...clever, and seldom babbling'. Certainly, this isn't an easy album to dip into. It's packed full of tweaked flow and busted up cadences; my golden-age loving better half won't stay in the same room as it. RDJ2 and Madlib are among the names on the production credits, and I guess it's in that list that the problems lies. The homogeneity of El-P's production gave Cold Vein claustrophobic sound. Look Mom is blurred in comparison. Lastly, MF Doom. Why would you give him a guest spot on your album? You know he is only going to put the hurt of you, and he does, with his delivery on 'Da Superfriendz' coming across as effortless.
More than a 3Nh, but not quite a...
Posted on: 04 August 2004 by ErikL
Mekon,
I've missed your hip-hop recs this year. Whatcha been listening to? Did you buy man'sbestfriend? I think I overrated it, but it's still very good.
PS- MM Food's "Cookies" track is a goody (the "leaked" MP3 anyway). The Sesame Street groove and Cookie Monster samples are fine choices.
Matthew,
I eagerly await your sober reflections WRT Fiery Furnaces. And their previous release too of course.
I've missed your hip-hop recs this year. Whatcha been listening to? Did you buy man'sbestfriend? I think I overrated it, but it's still very good.
PS- MM Food's "Cookies" track is a goody (the "leaked" MP3 anyway). The Sesame Street groove and Cookie Monster samples are fine choices.
Matthew,
I eagerly await your sober reflections WRT Fiery Furnaces. And their previous release too of course.
Posted on: 06 August 2004 by matthewr
"I eagerly await your sober reflections WRT Fiery Furnaces"
I am blowing hot and cold on it to be honest. But I have vowed to wait at least a week. Still I can tell you that I was delighted when the dog was reunited with its owner.
"And their previous release too of course"
I don't have it. Although I did get a CD single called "Single Again" with the album which I don't rememeber ordering and wonder if it's some kind of freebie or somehting.
Matthew
I am blowing hot and cold on it to be honest. But I have vowed to wait at least a week. Still I can tell you that I was delighted when the dog was reunited with its owner.
"And their previous release too of course"
I don't have it. Although I did get a CD single called "Single Again" with the album which I don't rememeber ordering and wonder if it's some kind of freebie or somehting.
Matthew
Posted on: 06 August 2004 by Mekon
quote:
Originally posted by Ludwig:
Mekon,
I've missed your hip-hop recs this year. Whatcha been listening to?
Combo of trying to finish PhD, get a job, and spending alot of time out on my bike means I haven't bought alot recently.
A quick look at the iPAQ reveals
Bigg Jus - Black Mamba Serums V2.0 - I think you would like this
MF Doom - Dead Bent (just bought the reissue)
Brother Ali - Shadows on the Sun (I still think it's great)
Beastie Boys - To the 5 boroughs
Ty - Upwards
Posted on: 06 August 2004 by ErikL
Matthew,
FF is a bit of a guilty pleasure IMO. To me it sounds like a cross between Rush (maybe?), Meatloaf (yikes!), granny's favorite showtunes, festive tracks played on rides at the county fair, and indie. I'll grab my coat...
Mekon,
Thanks for the link- I'll check it out this weekend.
FF is a bit of a guilty pleasure IMO. To me it sounds like a cross between Rush (maybe?), Meatloaf (yikes!), granny's favorite showtunes, festive tracks played on rides at the county fair, and indie. I'll grab my coat...
Mekon,
Thanks for the link- I'll check it out this weekend.
Posted on: 10 August 2004 by Mekon
Bigg Jus - Black Mamba Serums V2.0
Bigg Jus was one third of Company Flow, so we should pay attention, right? Well, NMS - Woe to thee o land whose king is a child, his last release with Orko Elohiem, was in my Top 5 of 2003, but criminally ignored by most everyone else. The press on this one seems to concentrate on the back story; this album has an odd genesis, with some material dating back to 2001. Whatever, this album never sounds less than boxfresh, with not a sound coming across as dated. More than that, the calibre of the verbal gymnastics is matched by soul and anger; this album isn't just showboating his technical wizardry. It resembles Mike Ladd and and Saul Williams in emotional tone. It's the most human messed up out there hip hop that's nowhere near not-hip hop.
Hefty
[This message was edited by Mekon on Tue 10 August 2004 at 10:11.]
Posted on: 09 September 2004 by ErikL
Drive-By Truckers The Dirty South (New West, 2004)
The Truckers are finally getting props for their own brand of Southern rock and painting the blue collar South old and new for the listener (they're from Alabama). This album retains key elements of the Truckers' sound- 3 guitarists sharing vocals duties (one nicknamed "The Ace Stroker"; better he than I), and a capable rhythm section. And of course the simple but effective storytelling:
"Another Joker in the White House, said a change was comin' round
But I'm still workin' at the Wal-Mart and Mary Alice, in the ground
And all them politicians, they all lyin' sacks of shit
They say better days upon us but I'm sucking left hind tit"
&
"It's been a while since I put on a suit of my own clothes
And even longer since I cast my shadow on a church house door
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong
I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all"
I prefer this one over last year's "Decoration Day" for its darker more devilish tone in places. Also, there are moments of bitterness, nostalgia, sadness, beauty, and liquored-up foot-stomping that add up to a great ride from start to finish.
Just a notch or two below 5 Nh:
A thoroughly enjoyable guitar-driven journey through the backwaters and byways of the (dirty) South. Sure to be in my EOY Top 5.
Reviews by people who know what they're torquin' bout here and here.
PS- See them live if you can. They'll blow you away.
The Truckers are finally getting props for their own brand of Southern rock and painting the blue collar South old and new for the listener (they're from Alabama). This album retains key elements of the Truckers' sound- 3 guitarists sharing vocals duties (one nicknamed "The Ace Stroker"; better he than I), and a capable rhythm section. And of course the simple but effective storytelling:
"Another Joker in the White House, said a change was comin' round
But I'm still workin' at the Wal-Mart and Mary Alice, in the ground
And all them politicians, they all lyin' sacks of shit
They say better days upon us but I'm sucking left hind tit"
&
"It's been a while since I put on a suit of my own clothes
And even longer since I cast my shadow on a church house door
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong
I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all"
I prefer this one over last year's "Decoration Day" for its darker more devilish tone in places. Also, there are moments of bitterness, nostalgia, sadness, beauty, and liquored-up foot-stomping that add up to a great ride from start to finish.
Just a notch or two below 5 Nh:
A thoroughly enjoyable guitar-driven journey through the backwaters and byways of the (dirty) South. Sure to be in my EOY Top 5.
Reviews by people who know what they're torquin' bout here and here.
PS- See them live if you can. They'll blow you away.
Posted on: 10 September 2004 by ErikL
Since I'm geeking out on linking to pics on my amateur website, here's a pic of the Drive-By Truckers:
Bumbershoot 2004, Seattle Center
Bumbershoot 2004, Seattle Center
Posted on: 16 September 2004 by matthewr
Giant Sand - "Giant Sand is All Over the Map"
Giant Sand, and Howe Gelbs as a solo artist, are one of those bands who you kind of figure everyone who is likely to like them will somehow find them through some sort of musical gravity. Still if you don't know them, they are basically a very solid bunch of musicians who play slightly quirky but always solid songs a variety of rootsy American styles (folk, jazz, C&W, blues, etc) and have a borderline mentalist singer. The new album is a typically quality outing and well worth the asking IMHO.
I am sure Ludwig will like these -- but then I guess he probably knows them anyway.
Some MP3s here which, although not from the new album, should give you an idea.
Pitchfork Review
Kind of like if Calexico got pissed
Max Richter - "The Blue Notebooks"
If they gave awards for pretentiousness, then how about an album of minimalist contempoary classical music with added glitchy Electronica and and plummy voiced English actress reading extracts from Kafka?
That aside this is really good if one is in the right mood -- a mood that can be readily achieved either by (presumably) enormous intellect or, for us mere mortals, some mild abuse of prescription analgesics.
See http://maxrichter.com/ for some samples and more info.
Pitchfork Review
Imagine Michael Nyman remixed by Low
Posted on: 22 September 2004 by ErikL
Devendra Banhart Nino Rojo (Young God, 2004)
More of the same genius that made his prior '04 release "Rejoicing In The Hands" so enjoyable, except it's a bit samey because it's the follow up (huh?). But Banhart keeps his folky mental in-patient singing and plucking pruned with fine lyrics like:
"Little white monkey, staring at the sand,
Well maybe that monkey figured out something I couldn't understand...
Who knows?"
Approximately 4 Nh.
"For vomit-inducing hippy pinko fools, young and old. Oh and Fritz too."
-Mensa Mick
"Together with "Rejoicing In The Hands", begs for a 2-CD changer or back-to-back play (totaling 90 minutes), though this one's not as strong on it own."
-Me
Sample bits here (be warned- the free MP3 is not at all representative). Reviews here.
The story of Devendra Banhart, who was discovered 2 years ago, "then a homeless, wandering, neo psych/folk hippie artist and musician, not yet 21 years old", here.
[This message was edited by Ludwig on Thu 23 September 2004 at 5:03.]
More of the same genius that made his prior '04 release "Rejoicing In The Hands" so enjoyable, except it's a bit samey because it's the follow up (huh?). But Banhart keeps his folky mental in-patient singing and plucking pruned with fine lyrics like:
"Little white monkey, staring at the sand,
Well maybe that monkey figured out something I couldn't understand...
Who knows?"
Approximately 4 Nh.
"For vomit-inducing hippy pinko fools, young and old. Oh and Fritz too."
-Mensa Mick
"Together with "Rejoicing In The Hands", begs for a 2-CD changer or back-to-back play (totaling 90 minutes), though this one's not as strong on it own."
-Me
Sample bits here (be warned- the free MP3 is not at all representative). Reviews here.
The story of Devendra Banhart, who was discovered 2 years ago, "then a homeless, wandering, neo psych/folk hippie artist and musician, not yet 21 years old", here.
[This message was edited by Ludwig on Thu 23 September 2004 at 5:03.]
Posted on: 22 September 2004 by ErikL
PS- Matthew, I sampled some Giant Sand and I like. Thanks. I also sampled some Arcade Fire and love. But they're sold out and churning out another run.
Posted on: 23 September 2004 by matthewr
Ludwig,
I have high hopes for The Arcade Fire but suspect that it will be while as Amazon is quoting "3 to 5 weeks" so I have ordered from insound which normally leaves their warehouse fairly quickly but then comes to the UK via Andes mule train or something 3 weeks later.
Similarly with the Swedish Psych Pop album they raved about the other day. Suspect it will be the middle of October before I actually get it.
I'm sure this never used to happen and stuff always took a two days to a week no matter how obscure.
Matthew
BTW If you like Giant Sand, Howe Gelb's "The Listener" from last year is a great place to start. I am sure you'd like it.
See http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/g/gelb_howe/listener.shtml
I have high hopes for The Arcade Fire but suspect that it will be while as Amazon is quoting "3 to 5 weeks" so I have ordered from insound which normally leaves their warehouse fairly quickly but then comes to the UK via Andes mule train or something 3 weeks later.
Similarly with the Swedish Psych Pop album they raved about the other day. Suspect it will be the middle of October before I actually get it.
I'm sure this never used to happen and stuff always took a two days to a week no matter how obscure.
Matthew
BTW If you like Giant Sand, Howe Gelb's "The Listener" from last year is a great place to start. I am sure you'd like it.
See http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/g/gelb_howe/listener.shtml
Posted on: 25 September 2004 by ErikL
Matthew,
PT for you.
PT for you.
Posted on: 01 November 2004 by ejl
Arcade Fire: Funeral
This is old news for some of you (like Matthew), I know. Still, I *finally* got a copy a few days ago (there have been serious supply issues, it appears), and after several listens have to say it's an essential '04 record.
'nuff said
This is old news for some of you (like Matthew), I know. Still, I *finally* got a copy a few days ago (there have been serious supply issues, it appears), and after several listens have to say it's an essential '04 record.
'nuff said
Posted on: 04 November 2004 by AndyFelin
EjL / Nick / AlexG - Funeral by Arcade Fire sounds interesting but seems a bit difficult to get hold of - where did you get it?
Ta
Andy
Ta
Andy
Posted on: 04 November 2004 by matthewr
For some Arcade Fire MP3s go to http://www.mergerecords.com/ and click the "The Arcade Fire" link on the right hand side.
I got my copy from Insound who are great for obscure US indie/alternative stuff that hasn't been released here yet. They are not the cheapest postage wise though and their stuff always seems to take 1-2 weeks to get here for some reason.
You can get it from Amazon now (http://tinyurl.com/6zsoe), but I have noticed in the past that when Amazon says "US Import - Usually ships in 1 to 2 days" it can take weeks to arrive.
Matthew
PS Fans of this thread might like to also check out the Other Version where you'll find lots of old friends.
I got my copy from Insound who are great for obscure US indie/alternative stuff that hasn't been released here yet. They are not the cheapest postage wise though and their stuff always seems to take 1-2 weeks to get here for some reason.
You can get it from Amazon now (http://tinyurl.com/6zsoe), but I have noticed in the past that when Amazon says "US Import - Usually ships in 1 to 2 days" it can take weeks to arrive.
Matthew
PS Fans of this thread might like to also check out the Other Version where you'll find lots of old friends.
Posted on: 04 November 2004 by AndyFelin
Thanks guys - have just ordered it from Amazon.
I must learn to get more Web literate.
Andy
I must learn to get more Web literate.
Andy