Artists you are surprised not to see discussed on this forum.

Posted by: JamieL on 07 March 2009

I have been a member here for just over a year, and I am constantly surprised the width and depth of discussion of music here. Pretty much every artist who interests me has been discussed at some point over the last year.

Obviously when artists release new albums there is a lot discussion. In contrast there are artists who were very much part of their time, or passing hype, for example I would not expect to see discussions of, Five Star, A1 or Sigue Sigue Sputnik.

One artist I am surprised to not have seen discussed is Duran Duran, not a favourite of mine, but a huge selling band who reformed not long ago. I also don't think I have seen much mention of Depeche Mode (I might be wrong on that, Violator has probably been on the 'now playing' threads a few times).

I also do not seem to remember any Marilyn Manson (Brian Warner) discussions.

Are there any artists other people are surprised to not have seen discussed?

(Waits for numerous links to threads on Duran Duran and Depeche Mode I have missed).
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Chris Kelly
quote:
cue plenty of hate...


Not here. This the civilised Forum. We leave hate to the Distributed Audio crew! Winker

And in any case I doubt you will get many who argue about those two classic MJ albums. I just think it's tragic that such amazing talent could be allowed to peter out as it did. That MJ has ended up as a figure of derision is really sad IMHO.
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Naijeru
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Originally posted by reubs1981:
I'm disappointed by the way rap often gets (mis)treated on the forum - quite often ignored or disparaged.

I share the same disappointment, but it seems the most vocal kind of forum member here is somewhere in his 50's or 60's and quite snobbish and/or cranky, so such an attitude is to be expected I guess. Even so, there are a lot of cool members as well who really do appreciate music even if they don't share the same musical taste. I think a lot of these people appreciate the artists you've mentioned, but they're not necessarily mentioning them every chance they get. Depeche Mode was huge for me in high school and I even like some of their less popular works like Exciter but I haven't seen much need to talk about them on the forum. Outside of classical and jazz I listen to a lot of electronic music so I'm actually surprised if some of my favorite artists are mentioned.

Also Off the Wall and Thriller are unquestionably great, you're not just talking about Michael Jackson during his prime but Quincy Jones as well. Only a dolt would disparage those albums.
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Chris Kelly
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the most vocal kind of forum member here is somewhere in his 50's or 60's and quite snobbish and/or cranky

And your point is? Roll Eyes
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Mat Cork
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
And your point is? Roll Eyes

The point is you've had your day daddy-o, wait till you see the new SuperSuperNait complete with street grafitti casework, she's a beauty. Winker
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Diccus62
I never hear much about King Trigger or the Dangerous Girls Confused
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Paper Plane
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I simply don't get Radiohead!
You and me both.

How about Magma? Incredible band and certainly unique.

As for rap & its various offshoots most of it passes me by, probably because I don't fit the demographic. Until it gets to Rage Against the Machine, then I start to connect.

steve
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by Naijeru:
quote:
Originally posted by reubs1981:
I'm disappointed by the way rap often gets (mis)treated on the forum - quite often ignored or disparaged.

I share the same disappointment, but it seems the most vocal kind of forum member here is somewhere in his 50's or 60's and quite snobbish and/or cranky, so such an attitude is to be expected I guess.


Wow do you know me, you've got me down to a tee - a very accurate description.

But am I snobbish or cranky or both?

Is it because I'm a fan of Waking the Witch that I attract such descriptions? I can't help not liking Dire Straits, 1980s Genesis, post Peter Green Fleetwood Mac, Coldplay, Rap Music, 1970s Glam Rock or Neil Young, it's just the way I am.

As Howard pointed out above I am the only forum member that seems to like Gracie Fields, Marie Lloyd, George Formby, Chas n Dave and Hatfield & the North: as I've never seen anybody else mention any of these great artists.

As the greatest band in the land once sang if music be the food of love then I'm the indigestion.

However, why not start a thread about Rap if you like that genre - I really don't understand it I'm afraid, it doesn't make me want to pedestrianise the high street. I guess I think of it as somebody trying to tell me how bad their life is; it is often sung about some urban experience or have I got it completely wrong and there are Rap songs about people living happily beyond the land of make believe? Is there the Rap equivalent of Just Another Diamond Day? Educate me - if you tell me a Rap record that is as good as Brain Salad Surgery then I promise I'll listen to it.

ATB Rotf
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Mat Cork
ROTF

I'm sure I'm older and grumpier.

Chas n Dave are marvelous, but Half Man Half Biscuit took over their mantle piece.

Rap - primarily for me, it's the great way artists like RZA etc, mix samples to create stunning music. As for the lyrics, it's not all uzi's, bitches and ho's (not that there's anything wrong with any of those things), have a listen to Me Myself and I by De La Soul or I Left My Wallet in El Segundo by A Tribe Called Quest...I don't eat salad as a matter of principle.

I just think it's funny, rap which is a very creative medium, often gets panned by folk who are fans of uncreative mediums, for not being creative. But then irony is my favorite type of humour.
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Ewan Aye
The Beatles hardly get a mention, which is quite extraordinary really. Certainly not as much as you would expect.
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by Adam Meredith
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Originally posted by ROTF:
As Howard pointed out above I am the only forum member that seems to like Gracie Fields, Marie Lloyd, George Formby, Chas n Dave and Hatfield & the North: as I've never seen anybody else mention any of these great artists.


How about Jake Thackeray and George Brassens? Plus - Doris Day.
Posted on: 11 March 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear Rotf,

I have mentioned Gracie Fields [friend of Edward Elgar, an English composer]...

Atb from george
Posted on: 12 March 2009 by blythe
Talk Talk get mentioned occasionally - who I always preferred over the Durans, but the Durans did produce some really good stuff.
Thomas Dolby of the same era.

Some rap is really clever and creative, some makes me feel like taking my own life. Quickly.

The really clever stuff is interesting and intelligent, or just simply from the heart (or street) and raw.

Listen to the clever lyrics on the first 3 albums (in particular) by Stereo MC's and the intricate songs/musical arrangments by Rob & Nick who are both very talented musicians by the way.

Elbow have had little mention over the years and even after getting the award for "Seldom Seen Kid" haven't had much mention really.

Kylie puts on a FANTASTIC live show performance and I was surprised at how many songs I recognised well enough to sing along a bit with!

Kaiser Chiefs.

The Pixies (and associated Frank Black, Black Frank etc.)

ABC (brilliant pop music from the 80's)

The Who

The Eagles

Eels

Earth Wind & Fire

David Bowie

City Boy

George Michael

Be Bop Deluxe

Automatic Man

to name but a few.........
Posted on: 12 March 2009 by Paper Plane
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uzi's, bitches and ho's (not that there's anything wrong with any of those things)
I assume that the smiley was missing from this statement. Unless the poster is in favour of gun crime and the disrespect of 50% of the human race?

steve
Posted on: 12 March 2009 by Mat Cork
quote:
Originally posted by Paper Plane:
I assume that the smiley was missing from this statement. Unless the poster is in favour of gun crime and the disrespect of 50% of the human race?

It was indeed tongue in cheek PP, but gun crime and prostitution are facts of life. So I've no problem at all with artists discussing them...equally bitch is a term I don't use personally, but who am I to preach to others? You're not far from territory where we sensor such terms in music...I'd hate to see that. Rap (and I'm not talking about the bling culture of folk like Sean Paul or whatever he's called) describes the culture of poor black youth - a noble pursuit imo.
Posted on: 12 March 2009 by Chris Kelly
Stuart
What's the story with the location? Roll Eyes
Posted on: 12 March 2009 by u5227470736789524
Michael Stanley doesn't get discussed much but his picture shows up from time to time. Smile
Posted on: 12 March 2009 by fred simon
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Originally posted by Ewan Aye:

The Beatles hardly get a mention, which is quite extraordinary really. Certainly not as much as you would expect.


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I've loved The Beatles since February 9, 1964, to this very day ... literally ... my nine year old daughter and I just listened to the 1 compilation, and I can't tell you how much joy it gives me that she digs The Beatles as much as I do.

Their seven year whirlwind of life-affirming, creative invention and delight is one of the crowning achievements of human artistic expression.

All best,
Fred


Posted on: 12 March 2009 by fred simon
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Originally posted by munch:
I have never seen anyone on here talk about garbage.


I dig garbage.

Fred


Posted on: 13 March 2009 by Mat Cork
Wasn't somebody on here a raving Half Man Half Biscuit Fan? Cammell Laird Social Club has been popular in our house of late.
Posted on: 13 March 2009 by BigH47
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Their seven year whirlwind of life-affirming, creative invention and delight is one of the crowning achievements of human artistic expression.



They weren't that good.
They failed to cure aids ,world hunger etc. They seem to have been credited with everything else though.
Posted on: 13 March 2009 by Mat Cork
quote:
Originally posted by fred simon:
The Beatles The Beatles The Beatles The Beatles The Beatles The Beatles The Beatles The Beatles

Never heard of em.
Posted on: 13 March 2009 by 'haroldbudd'
Julio Iglesias

no really; goalkeeper for REAL Madrid > Very bad Car Accident>international recording superstar......

that is so fantastic, and without doing a search, I am confident that he has never been mentioned on this forum. Good for him, we would all do the same.... and although he was responsible for the birth to the sonic Anti-Christ " Enrique Iglesias' ... he did write the song " HEY " which may be the greatest song ever composed which deals with a break-up/divorce ( please do not use Google translator to translate the lyrics, just trust me, they are brilliant in Castillian.

Ok , Cheers

and, REAL Madrid completely suck now, except for their keeper of course Smile

salud/cheers

j
Posted on: 13 March 2009 by Lontano
Nice one Harold. When I was growing up we played Julio albums all the time at home before he was known in the UK. So many superb tunes on those 70's albums and for me great memories of good holidays abroad. I remember buying myself the album Hey on holiday in Spain when I was a young lad. My Mum even got involved in the fan club. We have a copy at home of the Spanish magazine Hola where the headline was " British Housewives go mad for Julio" with a picture of my Mum and the man himself.

Not cool to like here but such a beautiful voice. Currently spinning the El Amor album on the way to work. Even Mrs Lontano likes his music and when in a summery mood we often spin a disc or two.

Confession over!
Posted on: 13 March 2009 by markah
I knew it would come out in the end!
Posted on: 13 March 2009 by Clive B
I haven't seen any discussion on the music or playing style of the late, great and much missed (jazz guitarist) Emily Remler on this forum.

And with much of her catalogue now unavailable, I guess it'll take forums like this to keep her memory alive. I can thoroughly recommend East to Wes (still a desert island disc for me), but there are so many other albums by her that have become impossibly expensive because of their rarity. Of course, if anyone has a copy of Together with Larry Coryell, Take Two or Transitions...

Maybe I'll copy this on a separate thread!

Regards,
CB