Any mortgage specialists around ?

Posted by: long-time-dead on 24 October 2005

OK, I know I should go speak to an IFA but I thought I would ask here first .......

I have just got my mortgage statement through and was having a look as I am nearing the end of my 2 year "Benefit" period and something struck me as wrong..........

When I took out the mortgage it was in two components. The following calculations are based on the offer that we accepted and we have written proof of this.

It is a capital and interest mortgage. Both components were taken out at the same time and form part of the one "agreement".

Component 1 - base rate of BoE plus 1.0% less 1.05% (ie. BR less 0.05%)

Component 2 - base rate of BoE plus 0.1%

I deduce that the difference in any month/period should be 0.15% regardless of what the base rate is.

My statement has shown the difference to be 0.9%

Now - I may well be in a position of benefit but could also be in a position of detriment. What I feel is clear is that the difference is incorrect.

I will go to the Bank concerned soon to ask a few questions but I was wondering :

1. If they are wrong (and I think they are), what is the position regarding refund by them or payment by me ?

2. If they are wrong and are due me money, am I entitled to compensation as they are in breach of the agreement and have been overcharging me.

3. If they are wrong, owe me money and I am enitled to compensation, have I any legal rights to suggest that they pay up the mortgage as a virtue of their defaulting of the agreement ? I believe that they reserve the right to repossess my home if I default ?

I am based in Scotland and all payments have been made and on time.

It's a good 'un for a boring Monday night !!!
Posted on: 24 October 2005 by Bob McC
I am just glad you have the intellectual capacity to understand your mortgage documents. I certainly don't!

Bob
Posted on: 24 October 2005 by long-time-dead
.... I've just looked at things again and it seems that they have neglected to apply the 1.05% discount !!!!
Posted on: 24 October 2005 by MichaelC
quote:
Originally posted by long-time-dead:
3. If they are wrong, owe me money and I am enitled to compensation, have I any legal rights to suggest that they pay up the mortgage as a virtue of their defaulting of the agreement ? I believe that they reserve the right to repossess my home if I default ?

I am based in Scotland and all payments have been made and on time.


Can't really see that happening even in Scotland. I no I am not a lawyer but... Surely the remedy is putting you back in the position you should have been in plus maybe a little bit extra to cover your costs & trouble.
Posted on: 24 October 2005 by long-time-dead
Michael

Just a piss take but "technically" applying the same criteria to them as they would on me. If it went to debate, it would be cheap for them in the case for me to stay quiet.

Wishing ................
Posted on: 24 October 2005 by MichaelC
It's worth a tongue in cheek letter though. I would love to see their response!
Posted on: 24 October 2005 by long-time-dead
Michael - letter, pah ! I'm going to see them in person next week when I am off for a few days.

No need for an appointment, I'll get "premier service" when I tell them that they are in breach of contract with my mortgage and I want to discuss it - now.

The more I read the contract, the more "black and white" it is looking !
Posted on: 25 October 2005 by MichaelC
Should be an amusing visit - have fun!
Posted on: 25 October 2005 by Markus S
quote:
Originally posted by long-time-dead:
Component 1 - base rate of BoE plus 1.0% less 1.05% (ie. BR less 0.05%)

Component 2 - base rate of BoE plus 0.1%

I deduce that the difference in any month/period should be 0.15% regardless of what the base rate is.

My statement has shown the difference to be 0.9%


Makes no sense yet. Are the two components of equal magnitude? If yes, the surplus over the BoE base rate should be +0.5% in any given month.

That it is +0.9% indicates that perhaps component 2 is larger?
Posted on: 27 October 2005 by Stephen H
Are you sure they were both BoE base rate?

Lots of the mortgage companies seem to say "bank rate" referring to their own internal "base rate" which of course they can then manipulate to their hearts content!