Beatles roll top cd box set question?

Not sure if this is still the case, but Pepper used to be packaged with a cardboard sleeve over the jewelbox (something a lot of deluxe reissues use, like the new Gentle Giant CD series). Maybe the previous owner of the box set discarded the sleeve.

that makes sense
i just saw one for sale on ebay
and it seems to be a regular cd in
the peppers slot
i guess i need to investigate further

My Pepper CD has a cardboard sleeve - but I still prefer the vinyl version

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Originally posted by ROTF:
My Pepper CD has a cardboard sleeve - but I still prefer the vinyl version

Mine too. But, to tell the truth, it's one of my least favourite Beatles albums.

regards, Tam

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Originally posted by Tam:

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Originally posted by ROTF:
My Pepper CD has a cardboard sleeve - but I still prefer the vinyl version

Mine too. But, to tell the truth, it's one of my least favourite Beatles albums.

regards, Tam

Tam is that just a case of heard it too many times - it does have some great songs on it. If they'd have put Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane and Hello Goodbye on the CD as bonus tracks that would have been icing on a psychedelic cake.

What's your favourite Beatles elpee then?

As has been said, CD of Pepper first released in 1987 CDP7 46442 2 had (mine still has, and original cellophane ..) card sleeve more or less artworked just as CD case artwork, but also has '28' page booklet within sleeve whose last 4 pages fold out showing the usual 1967-type Pepper military-ish thingies.

I often hated the sound of this 1987 CD but have learned to get used to it and play it more than stereo vinyl. I after 19 years of getting used to the 1987 20th anniversary CD do not look forward to any remasters of any of the commercially released Beatles
proper albums.

In 1987 I purchased my 2nd stab at CD replay machine (Philips 360) to replace Marantz CD63. Philips 360 still sounds quite acceptable, as does re-purchased 1985 Marantz CD63. All CDs sounded vile then, and I have aged into learning how to enjoy them now - they're all fine on Marantz CD7300 or Naim CD5i, but are not for me any better sounding on e.g. Naim one-box CDX2.

Here is review of Pepper from July 1987 New HiFi Sounds ...

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H5E8802BI9DW3S7S3RMV9OM2I

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Originally posted by ROTF:
Tam is that just a case of heard it too many times - it does have some great songs on it. If they'd have put Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane and Hello Goodbye on the CD as bonus tracks that would have been icing on a psychedelic cake.

What's your favourite Beatles elpee then?

No, genuinely don't much care for it. That's not to say that I don't like some of the songs (I love 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds' and 'A Day in the Life') but for some reason it just doesn't gel for me as an album.

My favourite is Abbey Road which just seems to totally click and doesn't have any weak link.

regards, Tam

FWIW, Sgt. Pepper is the CD that convinced me that CD could be a viable alternative to vinyl; the few rock CDs I'd heard before that were so badly mastered (when compared to the LP versions) that I wasn't interested in the medium, and stuck with my Technics direct-drive turntable. Come 1987: enter a $200 Hitachi CD player from Jafco!

As far as Pepper goes vs. the Beatles' other "psychedelic" albums, I actually prefer Magical Mystery Tour; it's stronger in the songwriting department.

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My favourite is Abbey Road which just seems to totally click and doesn't have any weak link.

regards, Tam

Tam

Think, man, before you speak, for goodness' sake! Maxwell's Silver Hammer?

Graham

I realise this may dent my reputation, but I LIKE Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

regards, Tam

Me too and Octopus's Garden.

Takes a bit of time to load and I think it's been quoted before, but worth a look The Maxwell Edison Story.

Rotf

Condolences, lads!

Graham

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Originally posted by Tam:
I realise this may dent my reputation, but I LIKE Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

So do I - and again, for "Octopus' Garden" as well. Mind you, I also love "Don't pass me by" on the White Album so what do I know?

I always liked "'Pepper" until I heard "Revolver". Now, don't get me wrong - there's some great stuff on the former, but "Revolver" does everything bigger better faster more, and earlier

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Originally posted by domfjbrown:
...so what do I know?

You know what you like; a prerequisite for owning good hifi gear, anyway! I agree about Revolver; can't wait for it to be remastered (the vinyl kills the CD, and I don't own a turntable!)

I've heard comments from serious music heads that Revolver was really the transition work for the Beatles. Then on Sgt. Peppers they went whole hog and made the most unique leap of concept album as a whole artwork incorporating design and music. I loved it as a kid and still get a kick out of my vinyl release from 5 years back. Mom dispensed with my originals when I went away to college....GRRRR!

The 4 listed songs from Magical Myster Tour were actually created at the same time as Sgt. Peppers, but didn't make the cut so used on the next album. I happen to not like the whole of MMT, just those four songs. It's odd that those songs went number one, while Pepper didn't have one #1 song, yet it's seen as the more popular and important album.

Ah, take me back to my youth. 13 and my first listen to Sgt Peppers, that's when I woke up and started really listening to music. They were definitely reaching me. Loved the White Album and Abbey Road too. Beatle fan for ever. Now that Paul stripped away Spector's additions I like Let It Be... Naked, it's much better.

Best thing for me about Pepper was when I moved to a new VI Form (one with girls ...) and the record and Abbey Road was the one always played in Common Room (before that I wasn't very interested in pop etc).

A good tester for your hearing.
A day in the life, have a listen very carefully as all the instruments come to a crescendo then fade out, ensure the room you are in is very quiet, better done late at night, with headphones, what do you hear?

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Originally posted by Van the man:
A good tester for your hearing.
A day in the life, have a listen very carefully as all the instruments come to a crescendo then fade out, ensure the room you are in is very quiet, better done late at night, with headphones, what do you hear?

A 20 khz test tone (that's what my dog told me anyway!)

On my original 1987 CD after about 4 mins 50 secs I hear on the R right channel - wide - probably door opening-'body movement' ...

Not to mention a funny cut-up tape loop with the Beatles seeming to sing, "I never could speak any other way"!

I have the Beatles book that came out several years ago where they go year by year thru their career. Paul talks about being interested in the recording process. He said they put lots of little stuff in them for the serious stereo buffs. I hear hand claps and some left right channel switching and some other things in the background. But I usually just like to day dream while it's all going on. Get the whole picture, they were such a creative and colorful group.

I had my cousin visiting with his wife last year and he was intrigued by my setup and wanted to hear something, Layne obviously didn't want him to get any ideas about investing so much in a new hobby. Just happened to pick one song on #1 CD which it sounds like they double taped Paul singing, or was it John? its really hard to hear and I"ve gone back and haven't been able to locate that song again. Right after the song ended up popped Layne from the couch and out the door. They don't listen to much music in their life, but Jed was intrigued. I have music on all the time and get my money's worth from the system.

Raining out today so maybe I'll go back and search for that song again with my new 300 amp.

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Originally posted by Wolf:
Loved the White Album and Abbey Road too. Beatle fan for ever. Now that Paul stripped away Spector's additions I like Let It Be... Naked, it's much better.

YES! Someone else who hated "Let it be" until that sloppy tosh Spector did was removed

BTW - end of 'Pepper is 15,000 Hz as stated in the 1987 CD sleevenotes "especially to annoy your dog". The end bit sounds more like "never to see any other" to me though.

Listen carefully (my system through speakers isn't good enough, but headphones are) to the line in "A day in the life" that Paul sings: "Found my way upstairs and had a smoke" - someone deep in the mix gives a whooping "way-heyah" kind of noise.

There's also paper rustling and a piano stool creaking towards the end of the piano chord

My favourite bit on 'Pepper though is that one little organ riff in the background right near the end of "...Mr Kyte" - it always cracks me up.

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Originally posted by domfjbrown:
BTW - end of 'Pepper is 15,000 Hz as stated in the 1987 CD sleevenotes "especially to annoy your dog". The end bit sounds more like "never to see any other" to me though.

I guess my hearing is worse than I thought...no need for speakers with supertweeters for me!

There's also paper rustling and a piano stool creaking towards the end of the piano chord

Well done that man!
I had to play this twice to convince myself I was hearing what I thought I heard through my phones, my take on it seems to be one of the orchestra gathering his/her sheet music together and getting up off the spring chair, maybe a letter to emi will uncover the culprit! perhaps it was john! hairs on the back of my neck now standing up!

Listen close to the coda of "Hey Jude" and you'll hear Paul say "[expletive deleted]!!!" when he muffs a line.

Not to mention the end of "Within You Without You" where, amongst the laughter, you can hear someone say "going out for a curry then?".