Miles Davis at 80

Posted by: Tam on 21 May 2006

Had he lived, Davis would have been 80 this Friday and BBC Radio 3 is doing a week or so of programming around this.

Annoyingly, they actually kicked it off yesterday with the first of six programmes from Ian Carr as part of Jazz File (if you stick the following like into realplayer you can listen again - I haven't got round to it yet, but Carr wrote an absolutely wonderful biography of Davis - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio3/jazzfile.rpm).

Those of you who read my library in Fredrik's thread will know I have one or two (okay hundred) discs from this remarkable artist yet they still seem to have managed to dredge up a few things I don't have.

Sadly, given some of the tendencies of R3's Jazz schedule (and the fact that so much of the programme appears to be folded into Late Junction) I fear that there is going to be an overfocus on Miles' electric period. That's not to say there aren't some fine records here (In a Silent Way, to be featured in Monday's programme is sublime and Jack Johnson is one of the finest albums ever made), however, I'm not sure it's the easiest starting point for anyone new to his music. Where is the focus on Birth of the Cool or his magical partnerships with Coltrane, Bill or Gil Evans?

Anyone, perish the thought, who might not have a single disc in their collection, could do worse than pick up the following (perhaps others can suggest better lists, this is somewhat off the top of my head, and biased by my own personal favourites):

Kind of Blue
Miles Ahead
Porgy and Bess
In a Silent Way
Jack Johnson



It was once said, I forget by whom, that you could write the history of Jazz in the 20th century (from 1950-90) with reference only to Miles Davis and it would be reasonably comprehensive. Of course, this is nonsense, but if one stops to think about it, not by that much, and less so that it would be for just about any other name you could mention. One of the reasons I love Davis so much as an artist is he was constantly innovating and out looking for new things. There are so many points in his career when he might have stopped and churned out more of the same and been set for life, but that wasn't him.

Of course, he died reasonably you (at just 65) and it's something of a sad story. In hospital for (I think - but I might be wrong) pneumonia, the doctors insisted on putting a tube down his throat to feed him. Miles didn't want this, lost his temper severely, resulting in a massive stroke. He went into a coma and died a few days later. When I think of this story two things normally occur to me. First, I think what a tragedy it is and had he only kept his temper what wonderful music might we be getting today, where might he be taking jazz in the 21st century? But, secondly, I remember that without that temper, without the fire that drove him, Miles probably would not have been the peerless musician that he was. His temper had caused him problems his entire life - years earlier, following a delicate operation on his vocal cords and under strict instructions from his doctor not to raise his voice, he lost his temper haggling over the price of a new Ferrari. The result was the thin raspy voice that is instantly recognisable.

And then, he had many reasons to be angry. On one occasion, force to go outside to smoke, because the place he was performing wouldn't allow him, as a black man, to do so inside, he was beaten up by police and jailed. On another occasion, in 1964, he insisted his band members play without charge so their fees could go towards the civil rights movement. Of course, Miles was extremely rich and this was much less hard on him than on them. There was a blazing row but in the end the band went out and played one of the finest concerts I have on disc (available titled 'The Complete Concert').


Miles Davis was an incredible musician and his untimely death left the musical world poorer. Radio 3's tribute (imperfect though it may be) should still provide some wonderful listening and I recommend it and his albums to everyone as well as Ian Carr's stunning biography.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by graham55
Tam

Good choice, but I'm just a bit surprised that you didn't include 'Sketches Of Spain'.

The one disc that I love more each time I hear it is 'In A Silent Way'. Totally unlike anything else from anyone else, but where the hell did it come from?

And I do think that 'The Birth Of The Cool' deserves a place in your list too.

What a shame that Jimi Hendrix died before he could pursue an intended collaboration with Miles. Not that John McLaughlin was too shabby, but I think that Miles and Jimi together would have been fireworks.

Graham
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by nicnaim
Tam,

You are absolutely right about Davis never marking time, and constantly evolving. He was so far ahead of the competition it must have been quite disconcerting at the time, and even now with hindsight it is still startling.

I would add Sketches Of Spain and Bitches Brew to the essential list that you proposed, but I also have a soft spot for Tutu. Currently playing Milestones.

Regards

Nic
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by Tam
Dear Graham,

You're quite right, Birth of the Cool certainly deserves a place (and my only real reason for omitting it was a somewhat illogical desire to keep the list to five). Sketches of Spain is a wonderfully beautiful disc (in point of fact all three of those Davis/Gil Evans discs, Miles Ahead and Porgy and Bess being the others, are pretty well musts), but I wonder if the other two aren't slightly easier to get into.

The problem is, once one you get going, there are just so many discs one might rate 'must'. The Plugged Nickel sessions (or at least the highlights therefrom are stunning), Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud may only be film music, but what film music and there can be few wonderful 'covers' than his wonderful 'Time after Time' though I'm not sure I'd recommend all of the rest of that album (You're Under Arrest). Then there are the early Cookin', Workin', Relaxin' and so on. Anyone can view my collection here, the post you're looking for is the insanely long one about 1/4 of the way down (unfortunately, due to the number of box sets I have, it isn't the clearest discography).

regards, Tam
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by Tam
quote:
Originally posted by nicnaim:
I would add Sketches Of Spain and Bitches Brew to the essential list that you proposed, but I also have a soft spot for Tutu. Currently playing Milestones.


Dear Nic,

I've been meaning to dig Bitches Brew out for a while - it's been ages since I had a good listen to it. Now would seem like as good an excuse as ever!

regards, Tam
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by Tam
Now playing! I'd forgotten how fine the opening was.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by fred simon



I miss Miles every day.

I was in my hotel room in Hong Kong in September 1991, getting dressed for a gig, and had CNN on the tube with the sound off. Footage of Miles came on screen, and I knew that he must have died … why else would he be on CNN? Very sad day.

Anyway, Tam, I know you said it was just off the top of your head, but while of course your picks are all stellar, not one album from the great quintet with Herbie, Wayne, Ron, and Tony?

Graham, that supposed project with Jimi and Miles is, for me at least, the holy grail of "if only … " collaborations.

Finally, I've been listening to The Cellar Door Sessions, which I gave to my wife as a birthday present, and it's burning! This is a rare recording of the band with Jarrett (with one hand on the Rhodes, one hand on the Farfisa), DeJohnette, Henderson, Airto, and Bartz. Absolutely smoking.

Fred


Posted on: 21 May 2006 by Tam
Dear Fred,

The Cellar Door sessions are high on my list of things to check out. However, I have felt a little burned by some of the recent releases (such as the Silent Way and Jack Johnson sessions) where I feel the extra material only went to highlight Miles and Teo Macero's genius in putting together the albums. Then again, given the Cellar Door session are live performances (as is my understanding) things may be different).

The great quintet you mention is a shocking omission. To be honest, some of my favourite of their stuff is the plugged nickel sessions (which are stunning). Miles Smiles is probably the obvious pick but I also have a lot of time for Miles in the Sky. So much good stuff to choose from....

regards, Tam
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by nicnaim
Ok Fred, Nefertiti on the player for you now.

Nic
Posted on: 21 May 2006 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by nicnaim:
Ok Fred, Nefertiti on the player for you now.


Now you're talking!

Fred


Posted on: 21 May 2006 by fred simon



Tam, yeah, The Cellar Door Session is a live gig, unreleased previously in any form. And that exact band was never recorded in the studio, either, so it's a rare one, not to be missed.

I love the In A Silent Way boxed set, first of all for the substantial improvement in sound, fantastic remastering. But it's such a great band, there's magic everywhere. Miles and Teo really had their work cut out for them to pick the best takes; really, they could have gone with others with equally excellent results.

Plus, I really love hearing the complete sessions that produced tracks not only for In A Silent Way, but for Filles de Kilimanjaro, as well as some orphaned tracks eventually released on the compilations Circle In the Round, Water Babies, and Directions.

To my ears, the In A Silent Way boxed set traces the transition from the great acoustic quartet with Herbie, et al, to the electric jazz rock fusion music he pioneered for years to come … In A Silent Way was the pivot point.

Fred


Posted on: 22 May 2006 by blackforest
my favorite miles davis albums:

- basic miles
- sketches of spain
- siesta w/ marcus miller
- water babies (perhaps my favorite)
- ascenseur pour l'echafaud
- bitches brew

the first recordings from ´49 with the the vocal track "darn that dream" - does anybody know if it has ever been pressed on vinyl? it looks like it is solely a cd bonus track...

kind of blue is way overrated in my opinion.

regards, +blackforest
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by jcs_smith
quote:
Originally posted by Tam:
Kind of Blue
Miles Ahead
Porgy and Bess
In a Silent Way
Jack Johnson

Swap Sketches of Spain or Live Miles for Miles Ahead and On the Corner for Porgy and Bess and I would agree with you.
I also particularly like Agharta, Filles de Killimanjiro and You're under arrest
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by jcs_smith
quote:
Originally posted by blackforest:
kind of blue is way overrated in my opinion.



Wow. You must be unique.
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by blackforest
quote:
Wow. You must be unique.


nice try jcs Cool

i think it's neither THE best jazz album nor the best album of miles davis (and isn't it more or less an album by bill evans as well).

+regards, bf
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by jcs_smith
I think the problem with Kind of Blue is that while it is not the only Miles classic album but it is one of the few that has made major changes to the jazz vocabulary. So many records after kind of Blue were made by all sorts of people that sound similar so it's initial impact has been lost. Having said that I first heard it in about 1988 after listening to Jack Johnson and In a silent way for years so I don't know what the initial impact was but I hadn't heard much straight ahead jazz either.
I'm not so sure that it's as much a Bill Evans album. I know he's important on the album but his own stuff doesn't sound much like Kind of Blue to me. Then again I don't really listen to Bill Evans - I just find his stuff boring
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by Tam
And the involvement of Bill Evans would be a bad thing in what way?

For me, Kind of Blue is my favourite Miles album, indeed, it's probably my favourite album full stop. Partly because it's one of the very first albums I ever owned but also because it has so much beauty and depth.

However, I think one of the wonderful things this thread shows is the sheer range and depth of Miles' output and how many different lists of favourites different people could put together that are still pretty well peerless.

Blackforeset - I haven't heard of Basic Miles, could you give a little detail. Also, what is Siesta like - I keep meaning to get it (I like Miller's recent solo work so....).


regards, Tam
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by Tam
quote:
Originally posted by jcs_smith:
Then again I don't really listen to Bill Evans - I just find his stuff boring


I urge you check out his early 60s (forget precisely the year) session from the Village Vanguard. The two albums are Live at the village Vanguard and Waltz for Debbie (and I think there may even be complete version including all the material). For my money it's one of the finest live jazz performances caught on disc.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by jcs_smith
I have to say that I don't really listen to mainstream jazz much anymore. I play the odd bit of ECM, trad jazz (I love Sidney Bechet,) free jazz, especially Ornette Coleman, and Miles electric stuff, but apart from Kind of Blue, although I've got loads of jazz I never listen to it. Bill Evans was a great player I'll admit and I can appreciate a lot of jazz but it's just not the way my mind works anymore. I think that for me it was just a passing fad, distracting me from my true love which is reggae
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by jcs_smith
quote:
Originally posted by Tam:

I urge you check out his early 60s (forget precisely the year) session from the Village Vanguard. The two albums are Live at the village Vanguard and Waltz for Debbie (and I think there may even be complete version including all the material). For my money it's one of the finest live jazz performances caught on disc.


Just as a digression. I was in New York a while ago and we drove past the Village vanguard in a taxi. It had always seemed such an important place so I was amazed how small it was. I wanted to go back and have our photograph taken in front of the marquee a la the cover of John Coltrane at The Village Vanguard but my wife was convinced that was yet another example of me being a pathetic geek. She thinks about this forum in the same way
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by Rasher
quote:
Originally posted by jcs_smith:
I wanted to go back and have our photograph taken in front of the marquee a la the cover of John Coltrane at The Village Vanguard but my wife was convinced that was yet another example of me being a pathetic geek.

Big Grin That's just a man/woman thing. I'd be the same and get the same reaction, but when we were in a lift with Paula Yeates once my wife nearly wet her knickers. How pathetic is that! Roll Eyes
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by jcs_smith
Now that sounds disturbing.
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by Malky
Anyone brave enough to stake a claim for 'On The Corner' or 'Miles In The Sky'?
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by jcs_smith
I can't remember Miles in the sky. Is that the one with George Benson?
On the Corner is awesome, one of my favourites, although I get the feeling it wasn't completed properly. I think it says something like that in the Ian Carr biography but I haven't read it for years so I'm not sure. Anyway I don't think side 2 is as good as side 1. Still have it on vinyl you see, although I do have it on CD as well - 2 copies - 1 remastered and 1 the original. Can't remember there being a difference in the sound. Sly and Robbie did a very nice version of Black Satin by the way on Language Barrier - no trumpet or tabla, didn't sound as tentative or as funky, just solid.
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by Tam
I don't have On the Corner (though bits of it may be on my various box sets) and it's been a while since I last listened to Miles in the Sky. However, I will sign the praises of the much maligned Doo-bop which I very much enjoy.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 22 May 2006 by Malky
Yes, George Benson plays on In The Sky. Its one of my lesser played Miles albums. On The Corner was flogged off years ago, I could never get my head around it. Have an old recording of Doo-bop on cassette somewhere. I remember listening to it quite a bit sometime in the early nineties.