Should I get some naim intros?

I think that's a very good price for Intros. They'll be a lot better than your 771's which much larger scale and weight, better timing and real presence. One thing though, if the room is square, they may cause a bass boom and have to be pulled away from the wall. Normally, Naim speakers like to be up against the wall, but occasionally one can have this problem with Intros. The external crossover veariant is the one before the current model, so it is a good one to get (the latter two models being the best Intros by far in my opinion).

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

No, I don't think you should. I know Intro's well from a friends system and never liked them much. They are very power hungry, even a 72/Hi/140 is not big enough for them.

Get small standmounters or stick to your Missions.

Have fun,

willem

Thanks for the thoughts, the 2 replies illustrate nicely the dilemma I'm having.

Does anyone else have any views regarding the intros being power hungry?

On the "boomy" thought, the reason I want to replace the missions is because at low volumes the bass seems to disappear. I have tried different positioning but have come to the conclusion they are very bass light. Boominess is *slightly* preferable to nothing (probably).

I agree with the above - unless you can find a pair of Credos in your price range. I understand they are nearly as easy to drive as Intros - but give considerably better sound. But you may well be satisfied with Intros.

Cheers from Aotearoa,
Rob Bowie

Kid !

Take it.
I have Intro 2 with Nait 2. Could have few watts more, but this is enough for start.
Any version of Intros are not hungry at all.
It will be pretty stupid that Naim entry level electronics couldn't drive they entry level speakers. I strongly suggest you to buy any Naim speakers you can, they are much better than any Mission and your nap90 will be quite enough for them.

Ozren

Hi Tim,

I replaced my Proac Tablette 50 Sigs with Intro2 and I love them, they are an excellent match with Naim amps.

Tony

OK, I am going to go for the intros.

Unfortunately, I have to post off a cheque, wait for it to clear, wait for the nice chap I am buying them off to post them and wait for them to arrive. So when (if?) they arrive I will let you know I get on.

Thanks for all your help.

Intros for 300 quid sounds like a good idea to me providing they are in good condition

Theres no reason that I can see why you should'nt go for them, let us know how you get on!

Mad Boy Matt

Just 2 seconds earlier & this post would have read so much better

Mad Boy Matt

Tim

If you like the sound of the intro's then £300 is a bit of a bargin.

If you dont get on with them you can always re-sell them and virtually get your money back.

You can't lose!


Regards


NB

I now have a dilemma.

I have seen some credos for £450. Given my current set up and the oft quoted "source first" mantra, is it worth spending the extra sponds?

HELP!

YES! Credo's look the same but don't sound the same. Go for it if you can...

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

I'm using Intro 2s, and they don't seem power-hungry at all. Pretty efficient I would say. Too close to the wall things and things can get pretty flat and congested, I found. A gap of 22cm between the wall and the rear of the speakers seems to be a good compromise between weight and openness/articulation. (Room size about 4.5m x 4.5m, I think.)

The Intros are extremely open and fast, but can sound rather lean. I have now replaced Linn Kolektor/LK85 with what I guess is some very un-flat-earth amplification: Croft Vitale valve pre and Arcam Delta 290P power. Very vivid and rhythmic sound on everything from dance music through to classical. Not warm in a bloated hazy way, just rich enough when needs be.

I too used to have some Mission 771s, and you will certainly notice the extra resolution and bass extension. The Intros offer a much more out-of-the-box sort of sound. I think they are rather under-rated. Perhaps the problem is just that they do reveal any source harshness or undue brightness. Before I changed the amplification, a rather bright Sony SACD player, on CD, sounded pretty awful. With the new amps, it's still bright, but much more musical. (My major source is now a Marantz CD6000 KISig, bought cheaply and a bargain I think. Still deciding between it and my Naim CD3; they do different things.)

When I ditched the Linns I also replaced the NACA5 with some old QED 79-strand; the sound didn't seem to suffer and so much easier to live with!

Having said all that, if Credos offer even more than the Intros, in terms of dynamics and openness, then go for it!

Dan

Kid, Go for the Credos, provided that they are in good condition. I was in exactly the same position as you, just a couple of weeks ago (see my posting on this forum). I went for the Credos (at a significantly higher price than you have been offered) and am absolutely delighted. In my view Credos are an excellent speaker - for my ears just as good as SBLs. Plus they are easier to position, transport etc than SBLs.

Go for it!

Cheers from Aotearoa,

Rob

Thanks for all the advice.

I bought the credos and, perhaps not surprisingly, they have transformed my system.

I still have a few issues regarding rather bright treble and slightly lean bass, but I suspect this is a shortfall in my amplification combined with the room they currently live in.... and they really do show up poorly recorded records.

However, overall the credos were a great purchase and I am looking forward to giving them a sound thrashing when I get home tonight (missus).