New Shelving

Posted by: Misguided Fool on 31 July 2003

Yesterday evening I made the decision to tidy my listening room and to make some shelves.

I made my way to my local B&Q warehouse and purchased the resources necesary to build a very stable wall mounted rack. By 18:30 I was home with the gear.

By 21:30 I had built my masterpiece.

By 22:00 I had all my equipment set up.

By 22:05 I was sat in stunned silence at how much better my system sounded. It was clearer, louder, smoother and bassier (is that a word?) Smile

I am still in shock at how by just putting my gear on a more stable platform has improved the sound no end.

I'm absolutely made up...

I'd be interested to hear if other people have had similar experiences.

By the way I am running a vintage 42/110 and SNAPS, with a Rotel Discrete 965 Limited Edition CD Player and a Rega Planar 3 turntable, through a pair of Castle York speakers. I know it is only a baby system, but on my limited budget I think I am doing pretty well. Smile
Posted on: 31 July 2003 by Frank Abela
What's the chances of a picture of the masterpiece or a description of the design?

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.
Posted on: 31 July 2003 by Misguided Fool
quote:
Originally posted by Frank Abela:
What's the chances of a picture of the masterpiece or a description of the design?

Regards,
Frank.
_All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly._


I will do it tonight and post the link.

I still need to varnish it etc...

I am shocked at how stable the whole thing is.

Smile
Posted on: 01 August 2003 by Misguided Fool
Sorry for the delay in posting the pictures. I am in London (working) for the weekend, only getting back on Monday evening. I will post them then.

No, I'm not a carpenter. Smile This was my first attempt at home made shelving. They are surprisingly sturdy. I think it is because the shleves are wedged tight to the wall as well as screwed to their supports.
Posted on: 05 August 2003 by Misguided Fool
As promised here are three pictures of the shelves. The pictures aren't the best (they are a little blury) but I think they convey the general idea.

Remember I am a complete amateur when it comes to this DIY lark. So be kind to me Smile

Shelf Picture #1

Shelf Picture #2

Shelf Picture #3

Regards

Mark
Posted on: 05 August 2003 by garyi
I spot the lemonjelly, do I get a prize?
Posted on: 05 August 2003 by --duncan--
Thievery Corp?

duncan

Email: djcritchley at hotmail.com
Posted on: 05 August 2003 by Rasher
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
I spot the lemonjelly, do I get a prize?

Not only on CD, but on vinyl too.
Yeah.. and thats Pearl Jam's Yield CD next but one under it.
Nice shelves. Of course, we don't know what the gear was on before. The floor?
Great system. I still have my old 42.5/110, and I love it. I have it in the office. I would never sell it. My buddy has one too, and he's the same. It probably gives more satisfaction per buck than anything else around. Put it against a current £1k integrated and you will see it's no baby.
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by Misguided Fool
I wondered about the turntable... It doesn't appear to be suffering from feedback though. I was considering moving it to the other side of the shelf if it was.

What would you recommend for making the isolation plates? Any advice would be welcome.

Cheers

Mark
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by Misguided Fool
Yep...Thievery Corp Smile
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by i am simon 2
Misguided

There is plenty of advice on DIY isolation on the forum , so much so that even I had a go ad building one for my CD player.

First of all I tried mdf with sorbothane "little feet" I think they were called, this was a disater, it killed the sound, system sounded like it was inside a draw full of socks, then I rubuilt it with michell tenderfeet and tender cups, cheap and availible from Audiophile Candy, I will post a link.

http://www.audiophilecandy.com/results.asp?dbfield=All&dbsearch=tenderfeet

I used a two layer design and whlilst not adding a huge improvment, the stand did help lower the noise floor and tighten things up enormously, and for less than £20 GBP this is not so bad.

Regards the Rega, mine is on their wall shelf which is bolted into the structural brick work with 100mm bolts ( I could do this with confidance as the walls in my flat are three feet thick).

I will try and add some photos to this post so you understand what I mean.

Your system is not so disimilar to mine (42.5, hicap 160, PLanet 2000 CDP and Planar 3) so hopefuly this stuff might be of help.

I used MDF, but glass could be an improvment as I have read that people beleive that MDF is not ideal, if i can find a lcoal glazier I migh try it one day.

Regards

Simon
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by i am simon 2
This is the wall shelf and rack with DIY Iso shelf for the cdp
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by i am simon 2
better view of cdp on shelf
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by i am simon 2
close up of tender cups and feet, sorry about the poor photographic skills
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by MarkEJ
Congratulations on owning some of the best-looking Naim boxes ever made -- the "big knob" series has never been surpassed, IMHO.

Alcove shelves can be a sod as the sides of the alcove are never square. Looks like a pretty good result. The Rega would certainly benefit from a wall mount more than being moved to a different part of the alcove, although both could be good. The Rega shelf is apparently effective and pretty cheap. There is a Sound Organisation wall shelf which is also quite good, crops up on eBay quite regularly, but might require too much "wall height" as it uses diagonal braces under the shelf. There is also the Mana wall shelf which costs IIRC just under 200 quid but will probably make the most dramatic difference of the lot.

Best;

Mark
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by --duncan--
quote:
Originally posted by Misguided Fool:
Yep...Thievery Corp Smile


Excellent on Vinyl...

I'm in the process of building a rack in a similar alcove. Well to be honest, still at the conceptualisation stage Roll Eyes Interesting that bolting the shelves to the walls has obviously had such a good effect for you. Conventional wisdom as relected in the advice you've had would suggest that floating shelves might sound better. Anyone here tried something like this? Any thoughts on differences in sound from hard or soft woods (Alex S....please check your Private Topics)?

duncan

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