Something heavier...?

Posted by: GaryW on 05 March 2002

Flicking through this forum it appears that most Naim owners are into the classical,jazz and easy listening side of things.
Whilst I listen to odd bit of classical, I predominantly listen to Thrash/Death Metal, Punk, etc. Is anyone else out there into this sort of thing or does the cost of Naim equipment tend to preclude people with these tastes (don't flame me, I am a Naim owner!!! wink )?

On another related note, anyone else feel that a well produced, technically excellent thrash/speed metal album would would highlight a whole different set of pro's and con's in a system than a solo guitarist, female vocalist, etc?

I ask this because at the Bristol show, the majority of music being used for demo's was very easy on the ear. Lot's of Naim label type stuff, classical, bit of jazz. There didn't seem to be any variety. Whilst I could appreciate that the sound itself was often fantastic, there wasn't any attempt to show that the system's capabilities extended into other realms.
Therefore it would be nearly impossible for me to make judgements on what I would like to audition for my next upgrade(s).
I don't think it was just my timing with my visits either, as (where possible) I had a flick through the records and CD's that the manufacturers had brought with them.
Heaviest thing I found all day was the mind-numbingly dull Staind album.

Well, that's my little rant done...

Posted on: 13 March 2002 by Khalid
...some industrial. 'Nine Inch Nails' certainly comes to mind. The 'Broken' EP was a blast. Heavy guitar riffs dominating a soundscape of industrial 'noise'. Some may feel it’s a cauldron of noise, but for me, its pure adrenaline pumping music. Although pretty much covering the same terrain, each album is its own adventure though. The earlier 'Pretty Hate Machine' was mostly electronic sounding whilst the later 'Downward Spiral' and 'Fragile' mixed both earlier influences. In my book, Trent Reznor's a genius. The lyrics he writes about are gut wrenching and darkly poetic. In the song 'I do not want this', he seems to be on a voyage of soul-searching and comes to a conclusion of regret and anger. The song ends in a somewhat appropriately misplaced remedy of ambition driven by anger: " i want to know everything / i want to be everywhere / i want to fu*k everyone in the world / i want to do something that matters."
Posted on: 14 March 2002 by JohanR
I would love to do some headbanging to Deep Purple / Nirvana / Metallica (or what ever), but:
- I have Neigbours.
- Naim systems in general (NAP 500, DBL:s excused) do not do rock consert levels.

So I'm stuck with "easy on the ear" stuff.

JohanR

Posted on: 14 March 2002 by Chris Brandon
A bit of Purple,Scorpions,Sabbath,Metallica,Motorhead - Goes down Damn well ! (seen them all live on numerous occasions - Excellent)

Of the more modern stuff,then for me it has to be Rammstein "Mutter" - Its one big wall of sound that kicks the living daylights out of your sound system ! A few selected tracks later,it feels akin to having consumed a very high dose of caffiene ! Superb for an addrenaline boost !

Regards

Chris

(I was having a chat with my father who is also into heavy metal,but his tastes are of the Brass veriaty smile )

Posted on: 14 March 2002 by GaryW
As a warning, I'm not going to pretend that any of these are original, well produced or have great musical ability (though some have all), I just love 'em.

In no particular order

Screeching Weasel "BoogadaBoogadaBoogada" (Pop Punk)

Slayer "Reign in Blood" (Shouldn't need an intro to some of you) BTW just tried this tonight with my new FlatCap 2. Wow!!! And it isn't even warm yet...

At the Drive-In "Relationship of Command" (Takes a few spins to get into)

Sepultura "Beneath the Remains"

Alice Donut "The Untidy Suicides of your Degenerate Children"

The Ataris "Blue Skies and Broken Hearts..."

Slipknot "Iowa" (Yeah, they look dumb, but I love it)

Emperor "IX Equilibrium"

Soilent Green "Sewn Mouth Secrets"

System of a Down "Toxicity"

Coroner "R.I.P."

Accused "More Fun than an Open Casket Funeral"

Violence "Eternal Nightmare"

Time to go shopping for some of the previous recommendations. Hello Credit Card...

Posted on: 15 March 2002 by Khalid
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GaryW:

"At the Drive-In "Relationship of Command" (Takes a few spins to get into)"


If you've not done so already, do try out the Vaya Ep as well. It's another good one.

Posted on: 16 March 2002 by Not For Me
I can tell you where all this Nu-metal is going wrong...

Tooooo fast. Tooooo samey

Try a nice sloooooow band for a change.

Earth
Sunn 0)))
Mezbow
Distintegrator
RND Technologies

Put that on you LP12 and smoke it.

DS

Posted on: 16 March 2002 by ejl
A forum search on the following favorites produced no hits eek. So in case some people here don't know about them here are some other great acts of recent years. In this case straight-ahead, hard-driving rock and roll -- no metal, grunge, punk, or techno. Guaranteed not to be overproduced.

In the interest of preserving the species I've tried to attach links for some of these so you can hop over and hear samples. In case my little links don't work I got these from www.cdnow.com.

Nation of Ulysses: Play Pretty for Baby. After 10 years this album still holds a blowtorch to most anything I've heard since. Looks like the LP is still available for $9. Life can be good.
http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=2013076165/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ArtistID=NATION+OF+ULYSSES/ITEMID=297692
This band had one earlier effort ("13-Point-Program to Destroy America"), which is more punk. Then they fell apart before getting noticed.

Jawbox: Novelty. Similar to early, pre-Nirvana Mudhoney.
http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=2013076165/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/artistid=JAWBOX/itemid=17328
In 1994 this band moved to a major label, but nonetheless released another good album, For Your Own Special Sweetheart.

Braniac: Hissing Prigs in Static Couture. At times a twisted new-wave band -- they make just the music that that pathetic genre could never imagine.
http://cdnow.com/switch/from=cr-9635397-1/target=buyweb_purchase/itemid=351143


Sunny Day Real Estate: Rising Tide. A Seattle band that somehow made it through the grunge days without evident damage. If you like the Delgados then these guys are worth checking out.
http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=2013076165/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ArtistID=SUNNY+DAY+REAL+ESTATE/ITEMID=1215703


Les Savy Fav: Cat and the Cobra. Get past the shoutiness of the opening tracks and this sets a nice fire.
http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=2013076165/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ArtistID=LES+SAVY+FAV/ITEMID=807885
Their recent Emor: Rome Upside Down also smokes.

Juno: A Future Lived in Past Tense. Although I was initially ambivalent, this is really quite good.
http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=2013076165/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ArtistID=JUNO/ITEMID=1366867.

It's only mid-March and already hot and sticky here in Alabama. Praise Jesus for independent labels and fans on my 135s wink.

Posted on: 16 March 2002 by Jez Quigley
Since my briks settled in I have been in a CD buying frenzy. Thanks to you and Khoi I now have a whole new vein to plunder. I need to sort out the amping as well now as the 250 gets too hot when playing this stuff at the required volume, but unlike your sweet home Alabama, it would be hard to describe Yorkshire as hot and sticky. big grin
Posted on: 17 March 2002 by Dave J
Have you heard Lost Prophet's album 'thefakesoundofprogress'? The first track's a cracker.

Dave