why do i upgrade???
Posted by: ken c on 28 February 2002
To get as close as the true sound I supposed (but until when? a bit like X-files???), but I want to stop for a while now, but for the last 03 years, I kept saying that until the next upgrade (So far I did it once a year), but I mean it this time, I will leave the active thought, I sold my Snaxo2-4 last Sat.
And concentrate on the AV set-up (intergrate from naim system)
cheers
Martin
keep the votes coming..
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Steve B
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Originally posted by Steve B:
I voted for number 1 although upgraditis does creep in now and again, and if I did get a windfall - well I'd treat myself. Why not?
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why not indeed!! i guess i could have made the choices a bit more mutually exclusive ... but what the heck -- hence my request for "dominant" reason. for me, its definitely upgraditis. i could say i want a bit more "scale" from by sbl's but honestly, thats just an excuse...
many thanks steve B.
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Originally posted by JWSzuhay:
no option for downgrading?
yes, there is!! its negative upgrading.
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quote:I admit it. Its all your fault.
very interesting. so far, noone is willing to admit peer pressure...
Anyway, what do you call upgrading whilst also saving money?
Alex
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Originally posted by JWSzuhay:
You sure?
yes'ish. you find a component that you think is overkill in your system (or whatever undesirable) -- and you swap it for a cheaper one -- you hopefully receive money which is the diff between the current prices of the unit concerned.
on another note -- last time i was in Houston, we had lunch in a hotel called Grand Hotel, near Galleria after a tip from a colleague. Fantastic!! is it still there???
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Anyway, what do you call upgrading whilst also saving money?
ooops sorry. . but actually nothing wrong with being influenced.
i dont know what to call "upgrading whilst also saving money?". not sure i understand? any suggestions?
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I think I'm at a point where my system reveals enough to get the point, or the emotional intent, of the music. I'd rather buy more new music than study the layers of complexity in what I already own. I find that hearing new music changes how I hear familiar music on later listens. And I've recently discovered (after having our first child), that not listening to anything seriously for a long time, and experiencing a lot of new emotions and pressures, also improved things. When I finally get to spend an hour or two listening, I get even less hung up on "the system isn't doing x" and just enjoy it -- because it may be a month or more before I get to do that again!
When I stop feeling the music, then I'll persue the next upgrade more seriously.
M
In my case, CDX and P9.
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you find a component that you think is overkill in your system (or whatever undesirable) -- and you swap it for a cheaper one -- you hopefully receive money
I've done this- B&W CDM1 for Rega Jura, Rega Elys and Standesign rack. Not a bad haul if I may say so!
Not counting you lot, I've got no peers who enjoy throwing money at stereos- therefore, I've got the best stereo out of my friends. I'm sure 99% of us can say the same
mike in co:
i agree with "new emotions". when we had our first child, hifi somehow became very low on the priority list -- i think i didnt upgrade for 3 years!!! ahhh, now this is a good cure for upgraditis!!!
many thanks mike
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long time ago, c. 1984.(probably well before your time!) i think it was simply called The Grand Hotel then. the food was memorable. should have taken a hint from the fact there was a long queue for lunch midweek.
yeah, i remember the heat (not as oppressive as Olando) -- and the thunderstorms!!!
how do you survive with naim equipment?!!!
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no. are you offering???
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i actually feel a bit guilty about the fact that my nephew (master will) is now much more into hifi (in particular, naim) than i ever was at his age... i have got another nephew who is also beginning to ask me questions like "do you think BMW is the naim of cars??"
what have i done!!?
my sister suggests aromatherapy as a possible cure for upgraditis. any comments?
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i am the exact opposite. i buy hifi when i dont have any money. i blame plastic money...!!
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I often do it when I have no cash but have never been any good at saving (I'm much better at paying off loans!)
Ken - re: your nephew - they'll remember you for the rest of your life for the music you introduced them to. I had an Uncle who was a musician and was something of a hippy but was into diverse music and broadened my musical horizons immeasurably in my teens. I thank him for that and fondly remember staying up until 4am listening to his hi-fi, drinking beer, experimenting with snuff (the tobacco powder not the movies!) much to my parents disapproval!
Jonathan
Jay
I miss mine every single day I climb into my Nissan... and despite the Sentra being pussy (that's Pus-sy) it is entertaining; nonetheless I miss that silky six, the snick of the gearbox, that bark of the exhaust... and it was still a normal car. One of these days's I'll get another...
RWD rules.
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
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Rico:
RWD rules.
Praise the Lord!
Daring Dan Digital
I usually upgrade becaue the sound of my system gets too annoying - usually too congested during loud, complex passages. I try to identify the weak link and improve it.
The upgrades I've done to reduce the annoyance have proved long-lived and very satisfying.
An edit:
I enjoy reproduced music much more with my current system than with previous equipment - the lack of congestion really makes a difference to me. And if I ever start making money again, I hope to make enough to upgrade if I ever notice it in the future - now, however, the system is great.
Phil
[This message was edited by Phil Barry on SATURDAY 02 March 2002 at 01:10.]
hockman, these are good points. i would probably give similar answers.
for example, i know for sure that i was very happy with my 32.5/hicap/250/isobarik -- with lp12/ittok/troika. its not as if when i upgraded, i said to myself, i wish i had more of this and that. i was just surprised that there WAS more when i auditioned nac72 and naim aro. this is the time i got rid of the isobarik -- too big for our lounge unfortunately. so er indoors said "its either me or them". thought long and hard about this... and chose 'er.
more recently, i was very happy with a passive sbl system, but liked what i heard with active that i didnt even know what possible. now i am considering whats possible with SL2's -- even though my active system right now is intoxicatingly good.
its called upgraditis. or madness. or stupidity. but whatever you call it, my musical tastes have expanded beyond recognition!!! -- and still expanding...
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I upgrade to get an even stronger emotional response to music. When I go to a live gig there's an emotional intensity which only a good hi-fi gives me.
what suprises me is that there appears to be no end to this quest for more emotion. emotion is important to me, but its not as if as i say "hmmmm... my system hasnt got enough emotion, therefore i need to upgrade". if my system as it is now stops conveying emotion in the music, i will know there is some component that is FAULTY. and i will go into a real tail spin trying to isolate it. it 'urrrts!!
I often do it when I have no cash but have never been any good at saving (I'm much better at paying off loans!)
its nice to know i have company!!!
Ken - re: your nephew - they'll remember you for the rest of your life for the music you introduced them to. I had an Uncle who was a musician and was something of a hippy but was into diverse music and broadened my musical horizons immeasurably in my teens. I thank him for that and fondly remember staying up until 4am listening to his hi-fi,
ahhh... thats nice. mind you, his musical tastes are now much more diverse than mine, so... i am learning from him now.
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are we spoiled by the fact that we can so "easily" upgrade, or are there other similar industries within which this is possible -- old equipment backup, etc etc... car??
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