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Dan,

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Novice question -- I notice you havent centered the subjects. When you composed them were you using 'the rule of thirds,' or did it just happen instinctively.

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When I compose I don't consciously think "hmmmm, better put the subject or the picture's point of interest into one of the frame's thirds." It's never that deliberate or cut and dry. But, for what it's worth, off-centre placement often makes for a more dynamic picture. Centre placement often seems so static.

The Count is a better person to ask for stuff like this. I feel uncomfortable giving artsy advice (fartsy I can do) since I don't have any clue about or training in art. But if you do want a rule of thumb to follow it's don't slavishly follow compositional rules because for every one, there's a picture that breaks the rule yet still works.

Joe

don't slavishly follow compositional rules because for every one, there's a picture that breaks the rule yet still works

Oh for sure. However, years of programming by taking snappies of relatives centered in the frame needs to be undone somehow! I think that knowledege of these rules make one aware that placement of the subject is an artistic choice. I wonder if at some point framing a shot becomes a subconscious act.

Dan

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Derek

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Matthew - explain - what resolution are you running your screen at

Derek

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Ferry across the Mersey

I'm proud of this one because we had to arrange the Mersey Ferry for the shoot to chug up and down the river until we could get the lighting right, the Liver Building in the correct postion without being able to stop the ferry and Age Concern non-models to laugh at the right time. All this with a client behind my back, front cover shot needed on the spot, on transparency, before the days of digital so no retouching, 3 filters in front of my lens, on a dull overcast day and no polaroid.

And I didn't even charge that much for it!

[This message was edited by count.d on WEDNESDAY 21 January 2004 at 23:21.]

Derek said "what resolution are you running your screen at"

My screen is 1440x900. But I run my browser at 800x600 as I like to do more than one thing at once.

For posting on the web the longest edge of your pic should no more than 500px or you will annoy/inconvenience a significant proportino of your viewers. Plus the extra pixels makes the file size larger for no real benefit.

Matthew

Matthew - so which image were you complaining about

Derek

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Originally posted by ejt:
(this is also addressed to all those users who run at 800 x 600 because they like big text. Argh!)

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What if your eyesight means you can't see the text at 1024x768 without the fonts either being too small (Windows standard) or too large (Windows extra large), and yet at 8x6 you can null that out? (Note that my PCs run at a min of 1024x768 ).

Right - these are rubbish as they were done on either a crappy Halina £20 jobbie, or an even cheaper Argos special at £10:

Glastonbury 2003 (yep, you CAN get sun shots with a cheap camera - only minimal lens flair as well thankfully):

OK, so it's not quite level, but then neither was I after an all-nighter and a mad-as day before... Note the pee-poor image quality due to lousy digital prints from the negatives - even a £10 camera can't put white halos round sharp colour edges - bad digital does that!

Comic timing:

(very dangerous - seemed a good idea at the time)

When/if I ever get that POS Agfa e20 to work on my PC again (how the FUDGE can unplugging a USB device stop it working again - I hate that lousy software that Agfa supplied!), I'll scan in some grainy B&W and some arty colour snaps, done on my ancient Nikon F301...

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Make your choice, adventurous Stranger;
Strike the bell and bide the danger
Or wonder, till it drives you mad,
What would have followed if you had.

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unplugging a USB device stop it working again

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THe file system was probably not closed and so corrupted the control tables - trying doing an
EJECT device id eg EJECT F:

where F: is the drive address of the device

before removing it from the PC

Derek

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Derek - how do you "eject" a scanner?? Sorry to be facetious, it's just this crappy scanner's done this about 6 times, every time requiring either a complete PC rebuild or a lot of timewasting on my part - for the £40 it cost me in 2002 I'm tempted to cut my losses and buy a proper make. I thought Agfa were supposed to be good, but that thing's been rubbish since day 1.

What's the best scanner under £100?

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Make your choice, adventurous Stranger;
Strike the bell and bide the danger
Or wonder, till it drives you mad,
What would have followed if you had.

Dom - how does the scanner apear on the computer I presume it has an iocon of sorts

Does the icon have an Option to either remove or eject the device from the pc

If the scanner appears as a drive then you definitely can either from a command line or from the icon select the Eject option - it does not spit out the plug from the socket but will tidy up the connections to the file system,
That the best I can offer you as I do not do windoze but I am working from general principles I have seen elesewhere with USB storage devices.

AS for a recent make scanner I have no experience - I use an HP 4C which is SCSI connected

Derek

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Derek said "so which image were you complaining about"

Cliff's Van Gogh. Your pictures appears to have got smaller since yesterday when it was 100k and 700+ px in the vertical direction. For which I thank you.

ejt -- 800x600 is not the lowest common denominator its the web standard to which the vast majority websites are designed. If you want to provide a bigger version provide a link to one.

And if you cannot get adequate detail into an image that comfortably fits into a standard web page and an appropriate size then you need to improve your use of Photoshop and/or your scanning software.

Matthew

Matthew - you would be rather unhappy with the original of my picture as it is 4634 by 3229 and 2.4mb in size

PS I use PMVIEW for image size manipulation and basic image editting very fast and flexible

Derek

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Your pictures appears to have got smaller since yesterday when it was 100k and 700+ px in the vertical direction

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I thought the max file size allowed on this forum was about 50kb. What is the max allowed now?

THe limit only applies to uploaded files. If you add a link to your own web site you can have whatever you like.

Matthew

File size max is still at 50kb - my picture is hosted at the worlds tackiest web site - ie mine<g>

Derek

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"Often sacrificing usability and forcing users to squint at a tiny site that uses 1/4 of their available screen"

Show me some general purpose sites that are usefully bigger than 800x600. And some 800x600 sites that sacrice usability or readability.

Also the amount of squinting you do is unrelated to the fact that a site is desinged for 800x600 so if you can't read it then change your font settings, reduce your screen resolution or get a bigger monitor.

Matthew

Hmmm, seems as though we've gotten a little off track

count.d

I really like the ferry cover pic. The angle works and you've managed to fit in all the key elements without making it look too much of a pastiche. Looks deceptively spontaenous. I see the heavy hand of Cokin too I think-those were the days.

Bruce

Joe

Nerd info: Nikon F4, 105 f/2 DC, Fuji Astia F, available light, film scanned on a Microtek 6700 flatbed

Both Dan M's and count.d picture's ferry picture do not show, I only see the red circle with the diagonal line. I can see the other pics. So I am logged on correctly

Derek

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I took this pic of a Ford Mustang Mach 1 in Stratford in the early seventies, using my mother's Kodak rangefinder.

I wish I knew more about photo editing and/or had better software - I can't understand why everything I post on the web becomes much brighter than it was...

Just an ordinary day in Middle England during the Thatcherite mid eighties.