Really BIG numbers...
Posted by: Mike Dudley on 11 February 2010
A "Google" is 10 to the power 100.
A "Googleplex" is 10 ten to the power a Google.
A "Graham's" number is a number so vast that if you were to try to write one zero of the Graham's number on each atom in the universe, there would not be enough atoms to do it.
Is any of this at all useful?
Discuss.
A "Googleplex" is 10 ten to the power a Google.
A "Graham's" number is a number so vast that if you were to try to write one zero of the Graham's number on each atom in the universe, there would not be enough atoms to do it.
Is any of this at all useful?
Discuss.

Posted on: 11 February 2010 by Stephen B
I remember the late Carl Sagan saying that if you tried to write out a Googleplex in standard notation, the amount of paper required would not fit in to the visible universe.
How the "Graham's" number compares to this I'm not sure.
PS. I downloaded 'Horizon' earlier today. They're discussing Infinity. Whether it's worth watching (or even whether it's watchable at all) I won't know until later.
How the "Graham's" number compares to this I'm not sure.
PS. I downloaded 'Horizon' earlier today. They're discussing Infinity. Whether it's worth watching (or even whether it's watchable at all) I won't know until later.
Posted on: 11 February 2010 by Don Phillips
Anyone interested in numbers, especially prime ones, should read this book about Paul Erdos, see .
It is a wonderful book. It must be great, and lonely, to be brilliant.
Don, overcast downtown York
It is a wonderful book. It must be great, and lonely, to be brilliant.
Don, overcast downtown York
Posted on: 11 February 2010 by jayd
(googol and googolplex)
Wikipedia says the last 10 digits of Graham's Number are 2464195387. I have not independently verified this. Lately.
Wikipedia says the last 10 digits of Graham's Number are 2464195387. I have not independently verified this. Lately.
Posted on: 11 February 2010 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
Horizon is a great way to make one look clever.
The last digit of Grahams' number is indeed 7.
The last digit of Grahams' number is indeed 7.
Posted on: 11 February 2010 by Steve2701
How round can a circle be?
Posted on: 11 February 2010 by BigH47
My brain hurts now.
There's an Infinite number of infinite worlds.
Here was I thinking the answer was 42.
It's also a great way to make you feel really stupid, as well.
There's an Infinite number of infinite worlds.
Here was I thinking the answer was 42.
quote:Horizon is a great way to make one look clever.
It's also a great way to make you feel really stupid, as well.
Posted on: 11 February 2010 by Colin Lorenson
quote:.
It is a wonderful book. It must be great, and lonely, to be brilliant.
Yes..sigh. It is

Posted on: 11 February 2010 by mongo
quote:Originally posted by Colin Lorenson:quote:.
It is a wonderful book. It must be great, and lonely, to be brilliant.
Yes..sigh. It is![]()

Posted on: 12 February 2010 by Don Phillips
Hi guys
Rather than spend your afternoon worrying about whether we are dumbing down, or whether Munch was wrong to have the audacity to mention the weather, do something really useful.
Download this little programme and calculate pi on your own computer. 10,000 places done is a trice. You can work out the circumference of your turntable platter impressively accurately now.
see
Don, sunny downtown York
Rather than spend your afternoon worrying about whether we are dumbing down, or whether Munch was wrong to have the audacity to mention the weather, do something really useful.
Download this little programme and calculate pi on your own computer. 10,000 places done is a trice. You can work out the circumference of your turntable platter impressively accurately now.
see
Don, sunny downtown York
Posted on: 12 February 2010 by BigH47
Will it tell me why some so called 12" LPs have a larger radius than others?
Posted on: 12 February 2010 by Roy T
If some have problems with number ones and number twos, how will they ever manage a gooleplex?
Posted on: 12 February 2010 by mudwolf
Ya, the stupefying size of unreasonable numbers was why I was watching leaves blowing in the air outside the classroom.
Posted on: 12 February 2010 by Steve2701
quote:Download this little programme and calculate pi on your own computer. 10,000 places done is a trice. You can work out the circumference of your turntable platter impressively accurately now.
Don - the one I put a link to above in 'how round can a circle be?' sort of makes 10k look like nearly nothing..
''A computer scientist claims to have computed the mathematical constant pi to nearly 2.7 trillion digits, some 123 billion more than the previous record''.
Still not exactly as big as a Grahams I admit, but accurate enough for an Lp12.
Posted on: 12 February 2010 by Sniper
'Can we get behind numbers to find what it is they measure? Can we come to grips with numbers themselves what they are and where they came from'?
And:
'All of this makes infinity a fascinating, elusive topic. It can be like a deer, spotted in the depths of a thick wood. You will catch a glimpse of the beauty that stops you in your tracks, but moments later you are not sure if you saw anything at all. … We may then open up clear views on this most remarkable of mathematical creatures – a concept that goes far beyond sheer numbers, forcing us to question our understanding of reality'.
The Art of the Infinite: The Pleasures of mathematics by Robert and Ellen Kaplan.
'After Gödel, mathematical truths turned out to be an illusion'. (Not a surprise to me)
Taming the Infinite by Ian Stewart
And:
'All of this makes infinity a fascinating, elusive topic. It can be like a deer, spotted in the depths of a thick wood. You will catch a glimpse of the beauty that stops you in your tracks, but moments later you are not sure if you saw anything at all. … We may then open up clear views on this most remarkable of mathematical creatures – a concept that goes far beyond sheer numbers, forcing us to question our understanding of reality'.
The Art of the Infinite: The Pleasures of mathematics by Robert and Ellen Kaplan.
'After Gödel, mathematical truths turned out to be an illusion'. (Not a surprise to me)
Taming the Infinite by Ian Stewart
Posted on: 13 February 2010 by Consciousmess
Posted Fri 12 February 2010 14:11 Hide Post
Hi guys
Rather than spend your afternoon worrying about whether we are dumbing down, or whether Munch was wrong to have the audacity to mention the weather, do something really useful.
Download this little programme and calculate pi on your own computer. 10,000 places done is a trice. You can work out the circumference of your turntable platter impressively accurately now.
see
Don, sunny downtown York
_______________________________________
Thanks Don, you're brilliant....
I now know how to chat girls up at the bar!!!
Jon
Hi guys
Rather than spend your afternoon worrying about whether we are dumbing down, or whether Munch was wrong to have the audacity to mention the weather, do something really useful.
Download this little programme and calculate pi on your own computer. 10,000 places done is a trice. You can work out the circumference of your turntable platter impressively accurately now.
see
Don, sunny downtown York
_______________________________________
Thanks Don, you're brilliant....
I now know how to chat girls up at the bar!!!
Jon
Posted on: 13 February 2010 by Mike Dudley
What's the title of your book, Sniper?
Posted on: 13 February 2010 by Sniper
quote:Originally posted by Mike Dudley:
What's the title of your book, Sniper?
I very much doubt you would understand it. Do you have an interest in maths btw?
Posted on: 14 February 2010 by Mike Dudley
Must have been a headache, fitting all that onto the front cover.
Posted on: 14 February 2010 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
The book is called "How to get small-minded men to post on the Internet."
Worked on me.
Worked on me.
Posted on: 14 February 2010 by Trevp
quote:Originally posted by Mike Lacey:
The book is called "How to get small-minded men to post on the Internet."
Worked on me.
Mike,
You're being too hard on yourself! I'm sure nobody here would describe you as "small minded".

Posted on: 14 February 2010 by mongo
What's the title of your book Sniper?
Posted on: 14 February 2010 by mongo
quote:Originally posted by Trevp:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike Lacey:
The book is called "How to get small-minded men to post on the Internet."
Worked on me.
Mike,
You're being too hard on yourself! I'm sure nobody here would describe you as "small minded".



Posted on: 14 February 2010 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
Mongo, Mike D
My apologies for any offense you may have taken from my comment above.
M
My apologies for any offense you may have taken from my comment above.
M
Posted on: 14 February 2010 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
What fascinated me was the way in which you can get a room at the Infinity Hotel, even if every room was taken - just by getting everyone to move to the room next door.
Posted on: 14 February 2010 by Sniper
quote:Originally posted by mongo:
What's the title of your book Sniper?
I have already answered this question elsewhere. Try to keep up.