Lost inspiration
Posted by: garyi on 15 November 2002
OK as well as the spelling other things are not looking so good.
I have covered floyd, and yes. Also I have a fairly good collection of Bowie, most of Clapton and a good amount of Mayell.
I have the whole fila catalouge and a heck of a lot of zappa.
I have finite amounts of various music which I bought but don't listen too.
I have loads of modern electronica, an amount of D&B, serious chill down and up beat techno.
I have Jethro Tull, Van Morrison, Stevie Wonder.
I have Joni Mitchell, The Yardbirds and Kool and the Gang.
I have Elton John, U2 and Sade.
I have Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk and naim stuff.
I have lots of music.
But I am bored, I don't know where to turn.
Assuming I like electronica, prog rock, and D&B, where should I go next?
I remember hearing a Yellow album at a hifi show, sounded great. The only yellow song I remember was rubber band man and that was not good. should I delve deeper?
Help I am bored right now.
I have covered floyd, and yes. Also I have a fairly good collection of Bowie, most of Clapton and a good amount of Mayell.
I have the whole fila catalouge and a heck of a lot of zappa.
I have finite amounts of various music which I bought but don't listen too.
I have loads of modern electronica, an amount of D&B, serious chill down and up beat techno.
I have Jethro Tull, Van Morrison, Stevie Wonder.
I have Joni Mitchell, The Yardbirds and Kool and the Gang.
I have Elton John, U2 and Sade.
I have Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk and naim stuff.
I have lots of music.
But I am bored, I don't know where to turn.
Assuming I like electronica, prog rock, and D&B, where should I go next?
I remember hearing a Yellow album at a hifi show, sounded great. The only yellow song I remember was rubber band man and that was not good. should I delve deeper?
Help I am bored right now.
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by ejl
This was exactly the situation for many in 1976. The name of the solution was a four-letter word that ends with 'k'.
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by rch
Garyi,
If depression is coming all you'll need is a good psychotherapist.
But try it with good jazz first!
Christian
If depression is coming all you'll need is a good psychotherapist.
But try it with good jazz first!
Christian
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by Not For Me
All good stuff, try
Live at the Roxy
You gotta say yeas to another excess.
On another tack
What about a bit of krautrock, Can, Faust, Neu, Jane, Grobshnitt etc. ?
Or modern classical like Byrars, Martland, Poppy, Reich, Glass
Or hardcore Japanese noise, like Boredoms, Merzbow, Hanatarashi,
Seek and ye shall find.
DS
ITC - Led Zep, BBC Sessions
Live at the Roxy
You gotta say yeas to another excess.
On another tack
What about a bit of krautrock, Can, Faust, Neu, Jane, Grobshnitt etc. ?
Or modern classical like Byrars, Martland, Poppy, Reich, Glass
Or hardcore Japanese noise, like Boredoms, Merzbow, Hanatarashi,
Seek and ye shall find.
DS
ITC - Led Zep, BBC Sessions
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by garyi
I tried punk, and it didn't work.
I think I like stuff which is not stressfull.
Nick I take your very one sided reccomendation seriously, I will look into it.
As for neu etc well I don't have a clue so what does one do?
If you could only have one yellow album, (Know what yo do) which would you choose. Or better still which would be most widely accepted?
BTW I wil feel better when I get my pre/amp back, at the moment I can't play Vinyl and I have recently picked up a minted First yes albun, also Argus and Jethro Tulls Heavy Horses, also waka jawaka on vinyl.
Damn there is lots of vinyl I need to hear, does any one want to lend me a stage line?
I think I like stuff which is not stressfull.
Nick I take your very one sided reccomendation seriously, I will look into it.
As for neu etc well I don't have a clue so what does one do?
If you could only have one yellow album, (Know what yo do) which would you choose. Or better still which would be most widely accepted?
BTW I wil feel better when I get my pre/amp back, at the moment I can't play Vinyl and I have recently picked up a minted First yes albun, also Argus and Jethro Tulls Heavy Horses, also waka jawaka on vinyl.
Damn there is lots of vinyl I need to hear, does any one want to lend me a stage line?
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by rch
Originally posted by David Slater:
What about a bit of krautrock, Can, Faust, Neu, Jane, Grobshnitt etc. ?
David,
"Krautrock" is bad language, the rest is only bad taste...
Christian
What about a bit of krautrock, Can, Faust, Neu, Jane, Grobshnitt etc. ?
David,
"Krautrock" is bad language, the rest is only bad taste...
Christian
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by garyi
BTW I have made a decision.
I think Bowie is fantastic. more over I think Hours is his best album, anyone want to argue?
I think Bowie is fantastic. more over I think Hours is his best album, anyone want to argue?
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by count.d
Garyi,
You seem to like alot of the older stuff, have you got all of The Doors?
You seem to like alot of the older stuff, have you got all of The Doors?
Posted on: 15 November 2002 by Mike Sae
Gareth,
you have a music collection that's better than 99% of the collections out there. Just sit back, relax and spend your money on Hi-Fi upgrades.
you have a music collection that's better than 99% of the collections out there. Just sit back, relax and spend your money on Hi-Fi upgrades.
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by Not For Me
Thier early stuff (Claro si qui) on Ralph is quite far out (like the Residents).
"You gotta say yes to another excess" is beaty, well produced and amusing. Good tracks are "I love you " and the title track.
A good place to start with Neu! is Neu 1, see other previous threads for dscussions of the relative merits of 1, 2, 75, 4, and the bootlegs.
Don't lose the faith - keep music recorded.
DS
OTD - Yello - You gotta say yes to another excess
"You gotta say yes to another excess" is beaty, well produced and amusing. Good tracks are "I love you " and the title track.
A good place to start with Neu! is Neu 1, see other previous threads for dscussions of the relative merits of 1, 2, 75, 4, and the bootlegs.
Don't lose the faith - keep music recorded.
DS
OTD - Yello - You gotta say yes to another excess
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by garyi
Mike, I hope I have spent all the money I need to on upgrades, especially now I am the proud owner of an xx-1!
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by garyi
Cheers am off to ebay now!
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by Not For Me
Gary,
What about the Velvet Underground & Lou Reed?
Iggy & the Stooges?
It is always good to mix things up a bit.
DS
OTD - as before
What about the Velvet Underground & Lou Reed?
Iggy & the Stooges?
It is always good to mix things up a bit.
DS
OTD - as before
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by garyi
Ok I have ordered You gotta say yes to another excess, lets have a looksy!
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by Thomas K
Gary,
I would have said it was time for jazz, too, but if that doesn't appeal to you, how about some state-of-the-art contemporary folk-pop? There are many 'folk' artists in North America that really know their chops, i.e. they don't just sound like another talented singer-songwriter - their playing is superb, with varied and interesting song arrangements.
Try for instance:
Patty Larkin: "Strangers World" or "Regrooving the Dream"
McKinley: "Big Top Shop Talk" (how this one went largely unnoticed is beyond me)
Ani DiFranco: "Little Plastic Castles"
Bruce Cockburn: "Breakfast in New Orleans, Dinner in Timbuktu"
Then again, have you got every single AC/DC album featuring Bon Scott? If not, there's two weeks of discovering new music already ...
Thomas
I would have said it was time for jazz, too, but if that doesn't appeal to you, how about some state-of-the-art contemporary folk-pop? There are many 'folk' artists in North America that really know their chops, i.e. they don't just sound like another talented singer-songwriter - their playing is superb, with varied and interesting song arrangements.
Try for instance:
Patty Larkin: "Strangers World" or "Regrooving the Dream"
McKinley: "Big Top Shop Talk" (how this one went largely unnoticed is beyond me)
Ani DiFranco: "Little Plastic Castles"
Bruce Cockburn: "Breakfast in New Orleans, Dinner in Timbuktu"
Then again, have you got every single AC/DC album featuring Bon Scott? If not, there's two weeks of discovering new music already ...
Thomas
Posted on: 16 November 2002 by seagull
well almost, I'm not quite that old but I've got older brothers who are...
Caravan, especially Land of Grey and Pink
Camel
King Crimson (70's incarnations)
VdGG (maybe not quite what you are after but excellent all the same...)
Soft Machine
or from the 80's
Magazine
Cocteau Twins
Chameleons (did I ever say I liked them?)
...
hope this helps
Caravan, especially Land of Grey and Pink
Camel
King Crimson (70's incarnations)
VdGG (maybe not quite what you are after but excellent all the same...)
Soft Machine
or from the 80's
Magazine
Cocteau Twins
Chameleons (did I ever say I liked them?)
...
hope this helps
Posted on: 18 November 2002 by Keith Mattox
"Cobalt Blue" and "LIve at the Aquarium"
Do it.
Cheers
Keith.
Do it.
Cheers
Keith.
Posted on: 19 November 2002 by Lo Fi Si
I’ll second the punk / post punk recommendations. Do try Husker Du (the later stuff is less umm stressful, try “Warehouse Songs and Stories” plenty of vinyl copies still about), Magazine, Buzzcocks, Wire, Joy Division & New Order, Echo, Teardrop Explodes (and Julian Cope’s solo stuff especially “Peggy Suicide”), Specials, REM, Indigo Girls, The Fall (but where to start? 1st two or “This Nation’s Saving Grace” IMO), Belle and Sebastian, ..
Other suggestions based on recent random purchases
Fairport Convention (1st four albums, you get Sandy Denny (on 2,3&4) singing and Richard Thompson not).
Tim Buckley “Goodbye and Hello”, “Greetings from L.A.”
Leonard Cohen “The Songs of”, “Songs from a room”
Buffalo Springfield , Gram Parsons “Grievous Angel”
“Neu! 75” or the Can Anthology are good starting points for Krautrock.
I’m surprised that Nick L has not recommended Caravan especially “Land of Grey and Pink”. Bugger, Seagull’s gone and done it.
Jazz / Big Band: Dizzy, Ellington, Sonny Rollins ( The Alfie sound track!), Monk “Its Monk’s Time”, Roland Kirk “We Free Kings”, Mingus “Ah Hum” or “Passions of a Man”.
Ska, the Trojan boxed sets are an excellent place to start, Prince Busters greatest Hits has just been re-released on vinyl.
If you want to borrow anything, drop us a line, we aren’t a million miles away.
Simon
Other suggestions based on recent random purchases
Fairport Convention (1st four albums, you get Sandy Denny (on 2,3&4) singing and Richard Thompson not).
Tim Buckley “Goodbye and Hello”, “Greetings from L.A.”
Leonard Cohen “The Songs of”, “Songs from a room”
Buffalo Springfield , Gram Parsons “Grievous Angel”
“Neu! 75” or the Can Anthology are good starting points for Krautrock.
I’m surprised that Nick L has not recommended Caravan especially “Land of Grey and Pink”. Bugger, Seagull’s gone and done it.
Jazz / Big Band: Dizzy, Ellington, Sonny Rollins ( The Alfie sound track!), Monk “Its Monk’s Time”, Roland Kirk “We Free Kings”, Mingus “Ah Hum” or “Passions of a Man”.
Ska, the Trojan boxed sets are an excellent place to start, Prince Busters greatest Hits has just been re-released on vinyl.
If you want to borrow anything, drop us a line, we aren’t a million miles away.
Simon
Posted on: 19 November 2002 by Pete
Have a scan of the airwaves... plenty of variety on, for example, Andy Kershaw's programme, Late Junction and Mixing It, all on R3, to give you some ideas.
Just looked at your profile and no mention of a tuner: should soon pay off in more than its worth in discs. I listen to my nat03 at least as much as my platter spinners, and never have to pay any more to record companies to do it.
Pete.
Just looked at your profile and no mention of a tuner: should soon pay off in more than its worth in discs. I listen to my nat03 at least as much as my platter spinners, and never have to pay any more to record companies to do it.
Pete.
Posted on: 19 November 2002 by Goose
If it's older kind of 'prog' that you want..If you want newer versions of them :-) Try
Discipline - Unfolded like staircase ( CD ) ( Prog)
Djam Karet - Live at Orion Studios / Reflections from the Firepool ( prog - dual guitars like Wishbone Ash :-) )
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia..I know you have tried Signify, but the new one is excellent ( me and Nick L highly recommend it)
Sylvian /Fripp - Damage ( live - just rereleased..This is one of the best albums ever IMHO)
Ozric tentacles - Jurassic Shift / Erpland
Caravan - If I could do it all over again...
Peter Gabriel - Up ( vinyl is excellent)
The Enid - In the Region of the Summer stars
Gentle Giant - In a glass house
Egg - The civil surface
Khan - Space Shanty ( steve hillage CLASSIC)
Other stuff
LTK Bukem - Earth Vols 2/3
DJ Shadow - The Press Release
Bella Fleck and the Flecktones - Left of Cool
Dvorak, cello concerto / New World Symphony
Nitin Sawhney - Prophecy
Terry Callier - Timepieces / most others
Dave Matthews band - Before these crowded streets /Crash
I think that I have nailed my colours to the mast, so to speak!!!!
Cheers
Goose
Discipline - Unfolded like staircase ( CD ) ( Prog)
Djam Karet - Live at Orion Studios / Reflections from the Firepool ( prog - dual guitars like Wishbone Ash :-) )
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia..I know you have tried Signify, but the new one is excellent ( me and Nick L highly recommend it)
Sylvian /Fripp - Damage ( live - just rereleased..This is one of the best albums ever IMHO)
Ozric tentacles - Jurassic Shift / Erpland
Caravan - If I could do it all over again...
Peter Gabriel - Up ( vinyl is excellent)
The Enid - In the Region of the Summer stars
Gentle Giant - In a glass house
Egg - The civil surface
Khan - Space Shanty ( steve hillage CLASSIC)
Other stuff
LTK Bukem - Earth Vols 2/3
DJ Shadow - The Press Release
Bella Fleck and the Flecktones - Left of Cool
Dvorak, cello concerto / New World Symphony
Nitin Sawhney - Prophecy
Terry Callier - Timepieces / most others
Dave Matthews band - Before these crowded streets /Crash
I think that I have nailed my colours to the mast, so to speak!!!!
Cheers
Goose
Posted on: 19 November 2002 by garyi
Thanks for the continued replies, much to chew over!
Still waiting for the yello CD, also bought the missing album from my herbiliser collections.
Goose I nearly bought the latest earth release, trouble is its soo sexy on vinyl but a real pain when you have to flip sides every song, plus of course the dreaded 45 adaptor. I just can't bring myself to buy it on CD.
I have a tuner, but for some reason the reception round here is mega poor. plus I have to turn the CDP off in order to use the radio otherwise their is too much interference, any suggestions?
Still waiting for the yello CD, also bought the missing album from my herbiliser collections.
Goose I nearly bought the latest earth release, trouble is its soo sexy on vinyl but a real pain when you have to flip sides every song, plus of course the dreaded 45 adaptor. I just can't bring myself to buy it on CD.
I have a tuner, but for some reason the reception round here is mega poor. plus I have to turn the CDP off in order to use the radio otherwise their is too much interference, any suggestions?
Posted on: 20 November 2002 by Pete
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
I have a tuner, but for some reason the reception round here is mega poor. plus I have to turn the CDP off in order to use the radio otherwise their is too much interference, any suggestions?
Sounds to me like you need a decent aerial. Roof mounted and directional, accept no substitutes if you have the choice. Ron Smiths are widely held to be the best but you don't need one for good results, I've got a 5 element Antiference aiming at a transmitter about 20 miles away and get superb reception, despite plenty of wet trees being the last thing in the signal path.
Might be the tuner could use an upgrade too, of course... what are you using? My nat03 on a live braodcast on R3 will easily trash the cd3 for sound quality, lots of other tuners I've heard underline radio's [undeserved] reputaion for being the sound quality also-ran.
Pete.
Posted on: 20 November 2002 by Roy T
Colin had this idea in another post, it may give you food for thought.
Quote
Internet radio
"Is it possible to listen to music via the net by connecting to a station that plays your favourite artist or style of music?"
Roy, I use iTunes radio to listen to many internet stations dedicated to the sort of sounds that I like (bass drive for D&B etc) They actually play a lot of new stuff and gives me a good idea of what I could buy.
I use streamripper X (freewae) to download the live streams (sorts it into individual mp3 tracks with artist and name) when i go to work and when I come back at night I download it onto my iPod for listening purposes. I keep what i like and delete the rest.
The streams worth getting are 128kb or higher. You will need a DSL or cable connection for this or a friendly network admin for best results.
Hope this is of some help to you.
Colin
EndQuote
Quote
Internet radio
"Is it possible to listen to music via the net by connecting to a station that plays your favourite artist or style of music?"
Roy, I use iTunes radio to listen to many internet stations dedicated to the sort of sounds that I like (bass drive for D&B etc) They actually play a lot of new stuff and gives me a good idea of what I could buy.
I use streamripper X (freewae) to download the live streams (sorts it into individual mp3 tracks with artist and name) when i go to work and when I come back at night I download it onto my iPod for listening purposes. I keep what i like and delete the rest.
The streams worth getting are 128kb or higher. You will need a DSL or cable connection for this or a friendly network admin for best results.
Hope this is of some help to you.
Colin
EndQuote
Posted on: 20 November 2002 by Goose
garyi
1)Stop being a girlie and buy the vinyl, not the CD
2) Buy a Lingo , or a different TT :-)
3) A trick that I did was actually play the album at 33 rpm, not 45 and you get LOADS of low bass!!!!
Cheers
Goose
1)Stop being a girlie and buy the vinyl, not the CD
2) Buy a Lingo , or a different TT :-)
3) A trick that I did was actually play the album at 33 rpm, not 45 and you get LOADS of low bass!!!!
Cheers
Goose
Posted on: 22 November 2002 by DJH
Some alternatives ;
Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band
Trout Mask Replica(obviously)
Clear Spot
Bluejeans and Moonbeams (less obviously)
John Fahey
America
The Transfiguration of Blind Joe Death
John Martyn
Inside Out
Leo Kottke
6 and 12 String Guitar
Talking Heads
More Songs about Buildings and Food
Fear of Music
Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band
Trout Mask Replica(obviously)
Clear Spot
Bluejeans and Moonbeams (less obviously)
John Fahey
America
The Transfiguration of Blind Joe Death
John Martyn
Inside Out
Leo Kottke
6 and 12 String Guitar
Talking Heads
More Songs about Buildings and Food
Fear of Music
Posted on: 22 November 2002 by Matthew T
Has anyone mentioned Tom Waits (start with his earlier music). Neil Young is definitely worth a try.
Classical and Jazz are really worth the effort. Go listen to some live music and you may catch the bug.
Matthew
Classical and Jazz are really worth the effort. Go listen to some live music and you may catch the bug.
Matthew