Credo V.S Kitten - The Kitten is going to win!

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Originally posted by tonym:
Humans are the only "animals" who kill for the fun of it. Animals kill for instinctual reasons.

Doesn't that statement bite its own tail.

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Originally posted by Adam Meredith:

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Originally posted by tonym:
Humans are the only "animals" who kill for the fun of it. Animals kill for instinctual reasons.

Doesn't that statement bite its own tail.

Not really.

Yes it does! Humans are animals and have instincts just like any other. There is no doubt in my mind that all humans carry basic animal instincts to hunt, and to defend themself, their mate, their offspring, even their territory just like any animal. Just because as a particularly psychologically complex animal we try to rationalise our behaviour, and perhaps control it to a certain extent, doesn't mean those instincts don't often trigger our actions.

Now we're onto the semantics of human vs. animal.

I do hope you manage to control your animal instincts rather more than just "to a certain extent" djftw! And surely it's this ability to control our instincts that differentiates us from animals in this context, and even if we allow this control to slip, to justify our actions?

Absolutely, although I wouldn't suggest that we overcome our instincts, only that we have a capability to respond to the primal urge with much more complex behaviour. I say "to a certain extent" because in certain circumstances instinct will kick in before your brain has anything to do with it.

Briz Vegas, an interesting way of protecting your speakers, not sure about the aesthetics though. Do you really need these plastic lattices, if you have already managed to train the cat on the left hand side of you’re your photo the stand to attention? Just trying to lighten the thread a bit.

To be honest the barriers are to avoid a problem, not to change a behaviour. I had 700 series standmounts for 2 years (now at rear)and the boys (2 siamese) only jumped on them if a gecko appeared on the ceiling in the house (feral japanese geckos that I escort out of the house to avoid mayhem. One of the lads used my 705s to leap onto the top of the projection screen frame all in the pursuit of a gecko. By the way, my cats indoors only and desexed).

The 800 series represented too big a chunk of my modest disposable income so I took out "insurance".

Its not a great look but to be honest I don't notice it now. I do remove them for critical listening. They are below the midrange driver but they have a small (ok very very small) impact on the audio performance.

Point taken, its better to have the removable guards than permanent scratches on the very nice veneer of your loudspeakers.
It’s the nature of our hobby that the equipment required to listen to the music can be obtrusive and very few of us aren’t restricted by the practicalities of accommodating the needs of wives, children and pets as well as room constraints.
If it still sounds good in spite of the compromises and we are left with the time and space to listen when we want to, then we can’t really complain.

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Originally posted by Briz Vegas:
Yup........anyway this is my solution to the speaker v small domestic mammal problem

http://www.htguide.com/forum/attachment.php4?attachmentid=12776

Bloody hell thats a bit extreme.
I'm with JOE90 if this is the alternative...

get a water bottle, squirt the cat everytime it gets near the speaker and equipment, it will catch on VERY quick, it works great and is less extreme.

rega1

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Originally posted by tonym:

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Originally posted by Jagster:

Yup, I detest animals that kill for the fun of it, but that's just me.

Animals kill for instinctual reasons.

Which should be for food or defense. But you do see them do it for fun.

I hate cats, the fucking things crawling round you when they want something, otherwise ignoring you, shitting in my garden.

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Originally posted by garyi:
I hate cats, the fucking things crawling round you when they want something, otherwise ignoring you, shitting in my garden.

What could Gary's 'i' stand for?

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Originally posted by tonym:
Now we're onto the semantics of human vs. animal.

It's not semantics: -

Humans are the only "animals" who kill for the fun of it. Animals kill for instinctual reasons.

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Humans = animals (subset "kill for fun).

Animals (ALL) kill for instinctual reasons.


Humans kill for instinctual reasons.

it's logic.


The fun part may an instinct unique to humans. Define "fun".



Moved here for the "old" cat-lover v. cat not-lover cat fight. These are but words.

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Originally posted by Bungle007:
Add a Supercap to the kitten. Sorted....

with great restraint I did not suggest adding a PowerLine.
In jest.

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Originally posted by Marc Newman:
www.chowmember.com

Great Site. Only got 389 ft onthe cannon tho. Somehow think there is only random luck to keep you going ...

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Originally posted by Bungle007:
Add a Supercap to the kitten. Sorted....

Supercat surely.

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Originally posted by garyi:
I hate cats, the fucking things crawling round you when they want something, otherwise ignoring you, shitting in my garden.

Uh-oh. Better be careful:
www.pissedoffcat.com/index.html

"A cat looks down on you, a dog looks up to you, .... only a pig looks on you as an equal."

WS Churchill {Prime Minister and breeder of pigs].

How true this is. George