LP12 Oddities
Posted by: garyi on 05 July 2003
Well looking forward to seeing Van the Man next week, I thought I would play some vinyl of his this morning.
I played lots of vinyl last night no probs.
This morning i switched it on and nothing.
I switched it on and off, still nothing.
I checked the valhalla board fuse, looks fine. Changed the fuse in the plug. Still no luck.
Looked at the valahalla board, all seems fine to me.
Tried one more time and it starts up fine!
Could anyone explain what might be the problem here?
I am guessing the switch. The board was warm, so obviously receiving electric and the fuses were fine. Where the switch ribbon enters the board seems a bit flaky, unless they are all like this?
Cheers.
I played lots of vinyl last night no probs.
This morning i switched it on and nothing.
I switched it on and off, still nothing.
I checked the valhalla board fuse, looks fine. Changed the fuse in the plug. Still no luck.
Looked at the valahalla board, all seems fine to me.
Tried one more time and it starts up fine!
Could anyone explain what might be the problem here?
I am guessing the switch. The board was warm, so obviously receiving electric and the fuses were fine. Where the switch ribbon enters the board seems a bit flaky, unless they are all like this?
Cheers.
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by keithy
it wants a lingo 
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by silklee
I experienced the same thing.... and the next time it happened, it just would start moving anymore.
Hope it doesnt happen to you.
Hope it doesnt happen to you.
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by garyi
fingers crossed its been working fine since which is good news as I scored some great records today.
Thick as a Brick on a 'Porky' pressing, 1.50. Two ten years after, £1 each and some others.
Listening to a nice copy of the beano album right now, it cost four quid but I have nearly worn mine out!
Thick as a Brick on a 'Porky' pressing, 1.50. Two ten years after, £1 each and some others.
Listening to a nice copy of the beano album right now, it cost four quid but I have nearly worn mine out!
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by Chris Brandon
Gari,
With Paul mentioning the start switch,I remembered having similar problems with the start switch on my LP12.(about 4 yesrs ago ish).
Only happened three or four times and has been as good as gold ever since.
Chris
With Paul mentioning the start switch,I remembered having similar problems with the start switch on my LP12.(about 4 yesrs ago ish).
Only happened three or four times and has been as good as gold ever since.
Chris
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by sean
Garyi,
Why don't you just leave it running? I do with mine. If you listen to it daily it will stay constantly warm and on song.
Why don't you just leave it running? I do with mine. If you listen to it daily it will stay constantly warm and on song.
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by garyi
Good god Sean, tell me you are having a larf?
Imagine the state of your bearing and motor
Imagine the state of your bearing and motor
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by sean
Garyi,
No laughing matter! My bearing looks fine but OK I've replaced a few motors. I don't really want to wait an hour or so before my TT sounds any good. Let it run!
Sean
No laughing matter! My bearing looks fine but OK I've replaced a few motors. I don't really want to wait an hour or so before my TT sounds any good. Let it run!
Sean
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by garyi
Na thanks, I don't hear any difference between the first and last record of any sitting.
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by sean
Garyi,
Switching an LP12 on from cold you can hear the TT get dramatically better during the first side of an LP. I've heard this on countless LP12s and can't believe that you have the 'magic one' that sounds constant, hot or cold. Does the sound never open out and come together after it's been on a while? I know that mine does and if it has been off I'll normally let it run for an hour before listening.
I've never heard your one so who knows.
Sean
Switching an LP12 on from cold you can hear the TT get dramatically better during the first side of an LP. I've heard this on countless LP12s and can't believe that you have the 'magic one' that sounds constant, hot or cold. Does the sound never open out and come together after it's been on a while? I know that mine does and if it has been off I'll normally let it run for an hour before listening.
I've never heard your one so who knows.
Sean
Posted on: 05 July 2003 by Rico
James said
yeah it does - but a little slow in the 45RPM department.
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
quote:
The Armageddon is far more elegant, cheaper and makes better music to boot
yeah it does - but a little slow in the 45RPM department.
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 06 July 2003 by P
IIRC Naim recommend leaving the Armandlegon running all the time. That's why it doesn't have a switch?
I should think if you switch off and slow down to a dead stop between changing sides then you're not realling hearing your deck (pronounced Dick in NZ?) at its best though.
Whatever floats etc
P
I should think if you switch off and slow down to a dead stop between changing sides then you're not realling hearing your deck (pronounced Dick in NZ?) at its best though.
Whatever floats etc
P
Posted on: 06 July 2003 by garyi
well yea, I keep the deck going when playing, just whip the record off. This is of course where the deadly 'felt mat attached to the record and nearly killing you grand cartridge syndrom' occurs.
So I put some double sided tape on the felt mat to keep it down. And you know what, it stills sounds exactly the same.
So I put some double sided tape on the felt mat to keep it down. And you know what, it stills sounds exactly the same.
Posted on: 06 July 2003 by Ron The Mon
Gary,
You probably had a recent power outage recently. Even an outage for a few seconds will do it.
The Valhalla circuit is actually always on. Pressing the switch simply connects the power to the motor. You may have other electrical components which also lock-up or freeze the front control panel (my satelite box does this) after a brown or black-out.
The cure for it is to simply unplug the Valhalla for a few minutes and plug it back in (which essentially, is what you did).
BTW, it's not the power going out that causes the problem but a spike in the voltage. I have come home to my platter spinning as well, for sometimes a power outage and return causes the switch to power-up!
I would also advise against permanently running the platter as recommended above by Sean. The Valhalla, Lingo, and Axis supply are all always on; always warmed-up.
And lastly, Gary, check your room for proper humidity. If the felt mat comes off with a record, it is a clear indicator of too little humidity. Because the LP is vinyl near a grounded surface (the platter) it is susceptable to static build-up. Proper humidity will eliminate this condition. I used to use double-stick tape too (for years!) until actually sorting out the cause. Your hi-fi will sound better too.
Ron The Mon,
Needle-Freak
You probably had a recent power outage recently. Even an outage for a few seconds will do it.
The Valhalla circuit is actually always on. Pressing the switch simply connects the power to the motor. You may have other electrical components which also lock-up or freeze the front control panel (my satelite box does this) after a brown or black-out.
The cure for it is to simply unplug the Valhalla for a few minutes and plug it back in (which essentially, is what you did).
BTW, it's not the power going out that causes the problem but a spike in the voltage. I have come home to my platter spinning as well, for sometimes a power outage and return causes the switch to power-up!
I would also advise against permanently running the platter as recommended above by Sean. The Valhalla, Lingo, and Axis supply are all always on; always warmed-up.
And lastly, Gary, check your room for proper humidity. If the felt mat comes off with a record, it is a clear indicator of too little humidity. Because the LP is vinyl near a grounded surface (the platter) it is susceptable to static build-up. Proper humidity will eliminate this condition. I used to use double-stick tape too (for years!) until actually sorting out the cause. Your hi-fi will sound better too.
Ron The Mon,
Needle-Freak
Posted on: 07 July 2003 by P
James
I meant a switch on the deck. On the top plate. Not on the geddon itself.
I always thought that the switch/knob/button on the geddon was there to power off the geddon itself? Thus requiring a warm up from cold each time? Hence leaving it on. All the time?
Could be wrong though. I usually am.
P
I meant a switch on the deck. On the top plate. Not on the geddon itself.
I always thought that the switch/knob/button on the geddon was there to power off the geddon itself? Thus requiring a warm up from cold each time? Hence leaving it on. All the time?
Could be wrong though. I usually am.
P